....was visiting a large retail mega store recently....in MASS
 

........and heard a group of guys discusing fishing-regards to huge corporations/trusts/MPAs....one quote was.."time to put away the sluggos and pick up slugs"--can someone explain:confused::fury::smash:he he he

As usual, we are locked in at either end and no one is looking at the middle.

Nowhere in anything I have read so far, is there any suggestion that recreational fishing will be affected. We are reading stories from guys who want to create alarm, it's America as we now know it. It's for the same reasons that Lindsey Lohan's latest lesbian escapade and John and Kate make the first headlines on the nightly news over our country's economic woes--that other stuff is boring and it might be scary. "Oh, pictures of Brangelina's 47th adopted baby--well I have to see this, right after I finish counting the rolls on my overweight American belly!" :wall: Now that's news we can count on and I don't even have to worry about it!


The problem I see is that we (Americans in general) have become so lazy that we can barely feed ourselves anymore (and why would we--people have put so much into making it easier--why not take advantage?), nevermind making up our own minds, because that's hard. We are playing right into the hands of anyone who will take 10 minutes to read the source of any kind of information, regurgitate the lines that best support their argument and then fill in around it with all kinds of alarming wordage. This is the same reason why celebrities have to make public apologies now, do you think Arnold Palmer would have been making a public apology if he pulled the same stunt Tiger did back in 1960? Hell no, but he seemed so sincere, his wife took him back--now what about Nike?

We get our information in tweets and 13 second news spots now--that's all you need now, I love technology. Newspapers and news shows are politically biased and seek to serve their party instead of reporting the unedited truth. No one even reads the newspaper anymore anyway--it's more than 37 characters.

Yes, this thing could become a problem, but do yourselves a favor and read the actual text, you can do it in the time it takes to order and devour a triple cheeseburger, don't read what every idiot with an underlying agenda has to say about it.

The really bad thing about all this though is that no one makes a stand anymore. If it takes more than sending a blanket email with their name typed at the bottom--it's more than most of us can be bothered with. I mean c'mon 24 is on tonight and then Idol until Thursday where are we going to find the time?? :rotf2:

If anyone reads this and gets P!$$ED you either grossly missed my point or you are grossly overweight.

-Dave

LSD found in cheese burgers
 

i hear ya Dave....loud and clear :grins: :uhuh: :rotf2:

Thanks for reminding me that 24 was on tonight :D
I'll have to park my overweight lap down in front of the tube and relax a bit , I got no time to write to Kerry about health care bill. or was this about fishing:huh: I get all the threads confused, must be watching too much TV :rotf2:

the threats are real.........
 

...the adgendas of AR groups, other trust sponsored groups, and greed of resource based corporations are real........to think otherwise is keeping one's head in the sand.........their "cause" is to reduce/eliminate the recreational/commercial utilization of our fishery resources...no doubt some of the targeted practices have merit--but don't be fooled....the trawler guy might be at the head of the list of some groups(trusts, eco's, AR) actions-yea might be good news for the R&R anglers(both comm & rec)for the short run..but/however, this is but one domino at the head of the list)....with the mega corporations targeting the removal of the day/short trip commercial fisherman-and taking over the total commercial landings.........we better pay attention to these real threats......:wall:..part of the solution is/are :strong local rec & comm fishing clubs/org....full participation in local hearings/meetings of fishery management..local, state., and Federal.........all the above real threats to fishing have/are well organized and financed.........:fishin:

My point was not to make light of the situation, I only injected some humor to try and stave off the flames that I usually ignite :laughs:

I agree that there are some real things to worry about in all this, but I don;t like to let people read and then write between the lines for me. Too many people take something that has been published as gospel. (I know I'm treading on shaky ground here :rollem: but it's true).

I was poking fun at all of us, on either side of the issue. I watched 24 last night and I can't believe that crazy chick with the white/blond hair (lilly I think?) got eliminated from American Idol! She was awesome!

The other thing to remember with things like this is that there is a whole system of checks and balances that this bill has to plinko it's way through. There must be dozens of congressmen and Senators that fish--I hope they can help.

-Dave

RIGHT AWWWN, Dave!!

America got it wrong when they kept Katie
and let Lilly go. also, Mike lynche is waaaay overrated!

for me, it is about following the money as many have said.
noone wants to follow the science, listen to good conscience,
or be proactive anymore. WHY? there's no money behind doing the
right thing, BEFORE it's too late.

do you honestly think that the Boston Harbor and Charles River had to detirorate to the levels that they were polluted to back in the 60's, before someone realized,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hey these rivers are polluted???

i think that most of us are for 1 @ 36", FIXING THE FORAGE, and letting the science tell us what we should do next with regard to our estuaries and species. the problem is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,when are we gonna implement any of these measures. i am sure it will happen when it makes some interest group the most money. SUX, but it is where our Capitalistic Society and Corporate Greed has taken us to, imho.

........now for the real stuff.........hehehee
 

.....gonna go fishing soon..........:soon:........enjoy what you have(did I see this somewhere on here??)........:rotf2:hope a football field size asteroid misses southern New England waters......:fishin::)..."life begins when ya clear the breakwater".......:)

someone sent me this link
Obama fishing ban story spread by Glenn Beck, ESPN needs to fire Robert Montgomery

Nice Summation by Al Ristori
 

..check out latest copy of the THE FISHERMAN magazine(New England Edition-the Steve Shiraka memorial cover)..........Al Ristori's Conservation Watch Column........."Tempest About Administration's Attitude Towards Sportfishing"..........nice overview:fishin:

Sorry to bring this topic up again, but interesting to note that NOAA addressed it. Today:

Worked with HMS, ICCAT. Seems to at least be a step in the right direction, but of course depends on what's done with it. Just good to hear that the voice of a few million pissed off rec fishermen was heard loud and clear...