Thanks for the info. So the only time you can use braid is when they stop the boat trolling ?

No way when they're chunking? Waht about catching the mahi when they're chunking? Can you use a spinning rod with braid for that?

I talked to them during the week and they told they would put a list of recommended gear together and email it out but have not received it - would be nice to have it sooner than later to get organized. Good news is the weather is looking better
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just watched the otw show again - they were using braid

still no emails guys? think we'll sail?

Called and spk/w them this am. No emails with details re: gear yet. Doubt we'll receive the emails. Re: weather and sailing they said they would have a better idea tomorrow afternoon ie. As to how the current hurricane/storm tracks.. Offshore/inland. Basically the overall tone was wait and see.
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from another site:

First Tuna Trips of 2011 on the Helen H

2 Day Tuna August 17 & 18, 2011

We picked away on the Ma-hi through out the night along with a 80 lb Swordfish. Ma-hi were up to 10 lbs, with only a few tuna before daybreak. We set backup on the troll and picked away at the Yellow Fin until noon. We caught Yellow Fin on the troll and on jigs. Our final count was: 24 Yellow Fin, 25 Mahi and 1 Sword.

3 Day Tuna September 3,4 & 5, 2011

Mid day we showed up at the tip of Hydrographers Canyon. Before all the rigs were in the water we had one on. First fish was a 60 lb Yellow Fin. Most of the day was slow into the night with only a few more hits and a couple more tuna in the boat. In the morning we were on the troll again and put a quick 5 nice size Yellow Fin in the boat. We worked toward Oceanographers and back to Welker Canyon where we picked away on Yellow Fin and a few Long Fin Tuna. We stayed there for the night and saw our first tuna around 3:30 AM. The bite got hot from 4 to 6 AM. The biggest fish was caught by Frank Machonis from Winchendon, MA weighing in a 80 lbs.
Our final count for the trip was: 33 Yellow Fin, 4 Long Fin and 3 Ma-hi

Capt. Joe set out on another 3 Day Tuna trip yesterday Tuesday and as of last night he had 7 Yellow Fin, 2 Long Fin and a 15 lb Ma-hi. The full report will be posted when he returns on Thursday September 8.

Nice hope the bite continues inspite of Katia!
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This is why I don't go on "planned" offshore trips, I wait till the day or two before to make a go no go decision.

FRI
E OF 70W...SHIFTING WINDS 35 TO 60 KT...EXCEPT WITHIN 60
NM OF THE CENTER OF KATIA TO 70 KT EARLY. WINDS BECOMING NW AND
DIMINISHING TO 15 TO 25 KT...EXCEPT FAR E PORTION TO 30 KT LATE.
SEAS SUBSIDING TO 10 TO 17 FT LATE...HIGHEST E. W OF 70W...N TO
NW WINDS 25 TO 35 KT EARLY...DIMINISHING TO W 10 TO 15 KT LATE.
SEAS SUBSIDING TO 6 TO 10 FT LATE...HIGHEST E.

SAT
WINDS BECOMING W TO SW 10 TO 15 KT...EXCEPT N PORTION N
TO NE LATE. SEAS SUBSIDING TO 4 TO 8 FT.

SUN
N TO NE WINDS 10 TO 20 KT DIMINISHING TO 10 KT OR LESS
LATE. SEAS BECOMING 4 TO 5 FT.
$$


There will probably be a good swell on Sat. Might want to think of getting those scopolamine out and ready!

i would be surprised if we don't go. forcast looks doable, maybe a little lumpy sat morning but laying down. those reports look good enough to me. lets go kill some fish boys

If we had boats like yours ,we'd be doing the same!

Unfortunately it's very tough to ho a ride on a canyon do-able boat. i was lucky enough to get an invite this year once.

i just called them and the capt is going to call me after they get in tomorrow and answer our questions. so if you've got a question, post it and i'll ask him. i'll ask him leader and hook size for chunking tuna and mahi. what size weights for chunking tuna. is braid ok.

fish4striper: I hear ya...but anytime a storm like this passes....I would wait for things to settle down abit. I know I am over cautious.

But it could also lay down and be great fishing !

Be safe out there guys. I don't want to read about this trip in the paper.

I'm all in agreement to play it safe. But if its ON out there and its layed down... I'd rather be out there than reading about it, of that makes any sense.
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I know...I would to, but you might want to consider postponing it a week or so just so the trip is more comfortable. It is a lot more fun when you don't have to hold on all day long.

last wx report i saw was for 3-6' sat and 3-5' sun. in a hundred foot boat that's not bad. certainly not ideal but still doable. still a few days away, forcasts have a way of changing quickly - maybe we should make a sacrifice to the fish gods for fair weather. so who are we going to sacrifice - maybe sandman and his yellow crocs

Why waste a great boater, find a boat googan!:rotf2:

Find out how many ave booked this weekend's trip? Full boat or will we have plenty of room?

...I must be gettin old I guess.

all in good fun sandman. just remember we all have boat envy

Here's my list of potential items. So the obvious first questions are, How much room is available? and How much shhhhtuff can we bring? :-) I feel like I should lighten up. What am I missing?

What is the best personal ePirb on the market today? I might pick one up if I can before Saturday.

Also, what do guys recommend for line counters (put the bait at the right depth)

Rods
2 50’s (hollow braid with mono top shot)
Smaller boat rod (braid)
Surf rod

Tackle
Trolling lures
Squid jigs
Sabiki rigs
Diamond jigs
Tuna hooks/rigs
Shark hooks/rigs
60 and 80 lb Flouro (need heavier?)
Light sticks
Balloons

Equipment
Self inlflatable life jacket with strobe
Boat cushion
Pocket knife
Gimbel belt/harness
Gloves
Head lamp
Crimp tool/mono cutters

Definately don't want to compromise safety for any reason, but it appears as though hurricane Katia should be gone in time.

Hurricane KATIA

Would I be too optimistic if I started to think that this track could push warm core eddies and lots of palagics up onto the shelf? I don't want to underestimate the negative effects that dirty water can have and I am NO expert, but maybe the water it pushes in will be deep and clean as opposed to storms that come in close or over land that churn and dirty-up shallow waters. I'm going to take the glass half full approach. Maybe the water will be 80 plus F, calm and clear and we'll be sleeping by 2 AM because we can't reel any more or there is no more room on the boat for fish! :-)

Here is the most recent temp chart I could find that wasn't clouded over.

http://marine.rutgers.edu/mrs/sat_da...0.0711.n19.jpg

It's taken me 10 years to get this close to a canyon trip. Let's hope the storm boogies out, the fishing is tremendous and we all come home safely with tuna for the entire winter! Tight lines!

Latest canyon f/c :

Hydro:

Saturday 9/10
Morning
Light winds with a slight chop. Small short period wind waves.
Winds: WSW 9 to 13 knots
Seas: E 5 feet at 9 sec.
Afternoon
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Small short period wind waves.
Winds: WSW 10 to 14 knots
Seas: E 4 feet at 8 sec.

Sunday 9/11
Morning
Breezy whitecapping conditions with moderate choppy seas. Moderate short period wind waves.
Winds: ENE 14 to 20 knots
Seas: ENE 7 feet at 6 sec.
Afternoon
Light winds with a slight chop. Small short period wind waves.
Winds: ENE 10 to 14 knots
Seas: ENE 6 feet at 6 sec

Rods
2 50’s -one too many IMHO, how long is the mono, they might not allow the braid, you may want to call them
Smaller boat rod (braid)
Surf rod-why? they don't allow overhand casting

Tackle
Trolling lures- I think they only use their own
Squid jigs
Sabiki rigs
Diamond jigs
Tuna hooks/rigs
Shark hooks/rigs
60 and 80 lb Flouro (need heavier?)
Light sticks
Balloons

Equipment
Self inlflatable life jacket with strobe
Boat cushion
Pocket knife
Gimbel belt/harness
Gloves
Head lamp- not really needed, boat is all lit up
Crimp tool/mono cutters

missing- rain gear, warm clothes, can always take off,if you plan to sleep, sleeping bag and/or blanket, pillow

TY! I had 1 rod restrung with the heavy stuff and I think 150 - 200 yds of mono top shot. I was planning to bring the 2nd 50 and have it rigged and ready for shark in case a big mako comes along and also as a backup if the first rod is out of commission. I guess you can tell, I'm the kinda guy who would rather have it and not use it than not have it and need it, but there is a limit. Thanks for the feedback.

still no word from them. thier customer service sucks. just tried to call the office and got the machine

Opens and 9AM and I think they are shut before 3PM. But you are right, no customer service, especially if you get the younger lady/girl! I left my e-mail to get the suggested bring list and still nothing...

ANZ083-091430-
SOUTH OF NEW ENGLAND...FROM THE GREAT SOUTH CHANNEL TO HUDSON
CANYON INCLUDING THE WATERS SOUTH OF MARTHAS VINEYARD AND
NANTUCKET ISLAND...OUT TO 1000 FM
500 AM EDT FRI SEP 9 2011

SAT
WINDS BECOMING NE 10 TO 15 KT. SEAS 2 TO 3 FT...HIGHEST
SE.

SAT NIGHT
NE WINDS 10 TO 15 KT BECOMING E. SEAS BUILDING TO 4
TO 5 FT.

SUN
E WINDS 10 TO 15 KT DIMINISHING TO VARIABLE 10 KT OR LESS
LATE. SEAS BECOMING 3 TO 4 FT.

looks like it is going to be decent out there boys. packed up all my gear last night, you'd think we were going out for a month w/ all the crap i'm bringing

Ice chest? I presume we need to bring one to bring home the spoils. Does anyone know if the boat can make ice or we have to have in the cooler (pre-chilled)?

i'm just bringing a medium size cooler for food/drinks and fillets and a block of ice.

It seemed from the OTW show, if you bring a cooler on, it takes up your bench seat on the rail. With my feeble back which is bugging me this week, I'll need to alternate between sitting and standing. :wall: Check when you get there, can probably leave a cooler in the truck or bring it on.

But you don't eat fish and likely won't catch much!! Time for the trash talk.
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