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1 at 36" makes the rec anglers and guides happy.Manage the comm. quota responsibly on a yearly basis. It is a system that would have a huge positive impact on the fishery, and would be virtually unopposed.
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The only proven way to help the fish is to treat it in a similar fashion as tarpon, bonefish, permit, etc. Otherwise, as long as there is $/lb on the fish, it is doomed. Further, fishery managers, need to open their eyes more and protect the little fish that SB consume. |
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I love all the guys trying to justify making money to offset fuel prices and to pay for their large boats and engines. If you can't afford to run your boat without selling stripers then maybe its time to downsize your boat to one you can afford to run or fish from shore. Just remember the eighties and the decline of the striper. If you want to go back to that era then keep increasing quotas for commercial and for limits for recreational. There is no need for more than one fish a day. Or we can just keep your head up your a** and pretend that everything will be fine. Ignorance is bliss!
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Many people who support game fish status understand that the only way to get recreational fishermen to agree to cuts is to remove the commercial fishing excuse. |
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It's like history repeating itself. I bet we could go back to the last thread on S-B.com that talked about the last time a bill came before the MA House and it'd be a close carbon copy of this thread.
Highlights from last years thread: Recs saying it's the Comms, Comms saying things are just fine, random mentions of 1 @ 36", Cowhunter talking out of both sides of his mouth while putting words into someone else's mouth, Comms saying that Recs are greedy and are the problem... etc etc. It's all noise and means nothing unless you head down to the State House or send a letter/email to your representative. This bill is already decided and in the end, the group with the most money will prevail. However, if you support the bill, then you should join up with StripersForever so that they have more money for the next one. I'm sure the Comms have a similar organization that lobbies for their interests. |
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Lions and tigers are almost extinct, but there are always places to go to kill them.
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I just sent two letters to Pacheco and Gobi asking them to vote against it.
I want to know how much money Stripers Forever is taking from the environmental lobby. Be careful who you sleep with. The chatham hook fisherman's association got in bed with EDF and look what that got them. I am a commercial license holder who sold zero fish last year. I also purchase fish at my company from local fisherman. I also have a charter boat license. |
This thread is getting interesting - like I traveled back in time to the Striper Wars in the 1980s. Only then it was Bob Pond and Stripers Unlimited that were being bashed like SF is now. Same arguments, almost same scenario. Last of the fish offshore. One difference is the technology today to find them. States and Feds couldn't get it together and make everyone one happy. So finally a few congress people took control and probably saved the bass otherwise this site would now be called www.scup-com.
For the sake of those reading and posting it would be nice to know in your profile whether you're a recreational fisherman, a charter boat captain, a commercial R&R pinhooker, or a charter business that also sells bass. I feel that is important in helping others understand your opinions. DZ |
It should also be said the bill proposes reducing recreational limits to one a day and imposing a slot. This is an extremely contentious issue it makes friends turn on each other. But everyone in their heart of hearts has to see the fishery is being destroyed and history is repeating itself. When the commercial fishery was re opened the asmfc used striped bass as a poster child of fisheries management. Then the rec limits were loosened. It is sad to see a species that will be brought to the brink twice in less than 30 years. A species that was once so abundant it was used as fertilizer. People talk about weather patterns, fish moving off shore, lack of forage, meanwhile we continue as if nothing were happening. The only piece of this puzzle we have any sort of control over is our selves. We as fishermen are the control in this study. Regardless of what happens around us we can only control What we do. We can't even do that.
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The way I look at it is if one state does this it won't make a difference it needs to be coast wide or it will just be pointless
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bass are being depleted, it's obvious. anywhere but south. and all I hear comm guys saying is me, me, me, mine, mine, mine, take, take, take. this shiet's gotta stop |
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DZ, the same technologies, and even more sophisticated technologies are used to manage the species. We also have an eez zone protecting stripers beyond 3 miles... Was that the case back then? How many states in New england have draggers, netters, etc targeting the species? This time around if there is ever a collapse you will still be blaming the coms? I am a rec, and a charter captain, I take guys out, they kill their limit, its a rec catch, as it is their catch. Those bites we had on the cape exist and are elsewhere on the shoreline. On the boat it gets to be very common..... |
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This is for those that believe that the sb are not declining.
The Man In The Mirror The Man In The Mirror If you get what you want in your struggle for self And the world makes you king for a day Then go to the mirror and look at yourself And see what that man has to say For it isn't a man's father, mother or wife Whose judgement upon him must pass The fellow whose verdict counts most in his life Is the man staring back from the glass He's the fellow to please, never mind the rest For he's with you clear up to the end And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test If the man in the glass is your friend You can fool the whole world down the pathway of years And get pats on the back as you pass But your final reward wil be heartache and tears If you've cheated the man in the glass Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
the Doors said it pretty well also
This is the end, My Striped One Beautiful friend, My Striped One This is the end, My Striped One My only friend, the end, My striped One Of our elaborate plans, the end, My Striped One Of everything that stands, the end, My Striped One No safety or surprise, the end, My Striped One I'll never look into your eyes...again, My Striped One Can you picture what will be, My Striped One So limitless and free, My Striped One Desperately in need...of some...stranger's hand, My Striped One In a...desperate land, My Striped one Lost in a Roman...wilderness of pain, My Striped One And all the children are insane, My Striped One All the children are insane, My Striped One Waiting for the summer rain, yeah, My Striped One There's danger on the edge of town, My Striped One Ride the King's highway, My Striped One Weird scenes inside the gold mine, My Striped One Ride the highway west, My Striped One Ride the snake, ride the snake, My Striped One To the lake, the ancient lake, My Striped One The snake is long, seven miles, My Striped One Ride the snake...he's old, and his skin is cold The west is the best The west is the best Get here, and we'll do the rest, My Striped One The blue bus is callin' us The blue bus is callin' us Driver, where you taken' us The killer awoke before dawn, he put his hooks on, My Striped One He took a face from the ancient gallery And he walked on down the hall He went into the room where his sister lived, and...then he Paid a visit to his brother, and then he He walked on down the hall, and And he came to a door...and he looked inside Father, yes son, I want to kill you Mother...I want to...WAAAAAA C'mon baby,--------- No "take a chance with us" C'mon baby, take a chance with us C'mon baby, take a chance with us And meet me at the back of the blue bus Doin' a blue rock On a blue bus Doin' a blue rock C'mon, yeah Kill, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill This is the end, My Striped Bass Beautiful friend the striped Bass This is the end, My Striped Bass My only friend my Striped Bass the end It HURTS to set you FREE my Striped Bass But you'll never follow me, My Striped bass The end of laughter and soft lies The end of nights we tried to die This is the end my poor Striped One |
Is it just me or does everybody here feel like Cowhunter wants the bass to collapse?? I don't feel it, I know he does!
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