Larry - you make a good point (more than a few most of the time!!).

If I had a choice to drive 2 hours to the Race or 1 hour to a point closer, and they were both "ok" places, I guess I would go with the 1 hour.

Also, you are right, their are a group of people who live here, or summer/weekend here in the campgrounds, who fish alot, and they are the ones getting the fish - they put in their time here, go to the spots, etc etc. and catch fish.

Oh, and Bart, read my post - said it wasn't like it used to be - said things change - nothing is like it used to be - never said it was the best, greater than any other spot. I don't think that's insulting anyones intelligence (??). Also, having a fishing business here doesn't enter into this discussion - seriously, if you think that a post would sway people to drive two hours than maybe those people don't have any intelligence.

Bottom line - as Larry said in the beginning, fishing here is NOT like it used to be, I agree, but my opinion is it has changed everywhere. Also, my opinion still stands - there are fish to catch here - have to spend a lot of time and walk a lot of miles.

And yet I still go down there as much as I can Rich....because I love it down there!!! Just nice to be on the water as far as I am concerned! I just have such a great appreciation for it down there and memories of so many great trips and its just different now. As I said though......I love it down there...some of the most beautiful beaches and scenery on the planet as far as I am concerned!!! Hope you are enjoying the season Rich!:uhuh:

things change and cycle, and obviously the seals don't help. open sand beaches are tough too, and i think that's a big factor in this. you really need to stay on top of sand beaches since things are always shifting (tide to tide, never mind week to week), which explains why only the guys who can be out there all the time are doing well. i like rocks, they pretty much stay still. and with the amount i get to fish, that's a big help. i only fished the outer cape a few times, staying a week or so twice, never did that well, but did enjoy it alot. beautiful place, especially at night under a half moon.