Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 1006399)

Exactly why we have the armed citizen....screwdriver aganist the gun....smart

Originally Posted by Swimmer (Post 1006417)

The killing of another when in fear for your life is very subjective. Different folks reach the point of no return at different times in a struggle. First thing the jurors had to ask themselves who had the right to belong there, Zimmerman or Martin. Regardless of whether or not the gun gave him more balls, (hell I know many cops who wouldn't have left the station without one, ands that probably why they wanted the job, to carry one) he had the gun because he volunteered for the neighborhood watch. You can rant about the dispatcher telling him not to follow the kid. The dispatcher has no lawfull authority over George Zimmerman or anyone else. Was it sound advice, more than likely though. When Zimmerman still followed the dispatcher should have reasoned with Zimmerman to at least follow from a distance. Zimmerman never made any racial statement on the cell phone call. The only racial bias I heard during the trial came from the Martin witnesses. What he did was lumped Martin in with other perps, real or not, that have caused problems in his condo development. Anyone of us might have come to the same judgement, but probably would have minded our business. The kid made a terrible seventeen year old mistake that he paid the ultimate price for. I would be willing to bet Martin showed no respect to Zimmerman, because he was a hispanic man. Hispanic people are the majority in Florida and have been for several years.

You have to remember, someone not physically fit(Zimmerman), a wuss, a female, an older person, they are going to pull that trigger much sooner than most. And the victim has the right to use a greater force against the perpetrator than is being used against them. Gun v.s. sidewalk, gun wins.

Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA (Post 1006390)

That's exactly what happened. If he would have simply listened to the dispatcher this would have not have happened.That call was not BS. And if you think otherwise your crazy.
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Originally Posted by jonserfish (Post 1006463)

Prosecutors sucked. Just like OJ. If Zimmerman was a high profile person like a Hernandez they would have built a much better case. The state appointed prosecutors get paid regardless of the outcome and IMO don,t have a reason to care. I'm sure they thought there was no way they could have lost based on the actual facts, not the ones admissable in a jurors room. watch how many cases like this will come up now, knowing you can hunt someone, kill them, and walk. Ifeel bad for the jurors having to let that POS free.
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Originally Posted by WESTPORTMAFIA (Post 1006447)

Ok I'm an idiot. I hope someone shoots him in the face and then puts a screwdriver in his neck. Is that better. The kid is a bitch that got his azz kicked and couldn't fight back. Like I said the situation could have and should have been avoided and never came to what happened. He should have listened to the dispatcher END OF STORY
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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 1006487)

Folks, the lesson to learn here is to turn your back, ignore your neighbors and dont look for ways to protect others. We live in a society that rewards selfish, turn away behavior.

Originally Posted by likwid (Post 1006501)

If that's your take away, then you're just another media driven drone.

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1006513)

Curious how many here have grabbed a bat and investigated a noise at their home? What would have happened if you actually had to confront someone ?

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1006519)

How many have ever grabbed a bat and investigated someone walking down their street doing nothing?

Thats more to the point than somebody in your house.

or better yet, what would people do if they were walking down the street minding their own business and someone started following them around, hiding in the bushes...are they the type that would run away and avoid confrontation? Or would they go up to the guy and say "WTF are you following me around for?"

Would They confront him? They could end up being shot if they do.

Tragic event, both of them could have and should have handled it differently. Then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1006513)

Curious how many here have grabbed a bat and investigated a noise at their home? What would have happened if you actually had to confront someone ?
Me...
I caught someone in my garage office and held them at gun point until the police arrived. 2am on my little girls first night home.
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Originally Posted by Rockport24 (Post 1006521)

Unrelated I know, but this sounds like a good (but scary) story, would love to hear what happened...

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1006522)

And anyone know what the current unemployment rate is, 10% ?
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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1006523)

Ya know the old cheap phones that you used to hear if someone was dialing another phone in the house? Well the bedroom phone started to make dialing noise at 2 am so I went out to the office to see what's up. I heard steps running and then noticed the closet light on. I tapped on the closet door with the gun and told whoever it was to stay put. I then sat at my desk and called the police who came and took some guy, who I later found out was from Florida , away. I told the dispatcher I would be at the desk and armed so I wouldn't end up a victim :)
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1006526)

7.6%

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1006526)

7.6%

Originally Posted by Fly Rod (Post 1006541)

Both had cell phones...one calls cops....the other elects to call his girlfriend....if one feels threatened why not call cops....if the other had called the cops may be alive today.

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 1006546)

Zimmermans call to the police will be one of the main factors in pursuing Fed charges. It proves his intent was to stop a potential crime, not kill a person.

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1006559)

The crime of walking down the street?

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1006533)

You actually believe that number :-)
Bet you believe the national debt is only 17 trillion also.
I think a better gauge is how much is the public handout numbers up from last quarter ? Being welfare, Dissability, ect.....




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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1006559)

The crime of walking down the street?

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 1006562)

Come on Bry, there were break ins in the area. His head would have to be up his arse to not be suspicious of an unknown kid walking down the street. Around Christmas time we had some clowns in our neighborhood stealing packages, we have an email chain and all my neighbors were aware. Every single unknown car that was in the area was questioned and the whole neighborhood rallied, we caught the bastards. I guess we shouldnt have profiled suspicious cars?