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buckman 03-16-2014 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1035453)
I don't think this was a robbery...it may all be a political protest.

-spence
Got a link ? ;)
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Nebe 03-16-2014 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by buckman (Post 1035457)
Got a link ? ;)
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Read any news source right now. The pilot was a huge supporter of the largest opposition group.
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BigFish 03-16-2014 04:53 PM
Anyone else find it curious the pilot owned his own flight simulator?? I did right out of the gate??

nightfighter 03-16-2014 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 1035472)
Anyone else find it curious the pilot owned his own flight simulator?? I did right out of the gate??
I can't believe the "officials" didn't investigate the simulator's drive history until four or five days had passed.....
That said, I don't believe in transparency and the general public's "right" to know everything as it happens. Some information just doesn't need to be out there in real time.

spence 03-16-2014 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1035473)
I can't believe the "officials" didn't investigate the simulator's drive history until four or five days had passed.....
That said, I don't believe in transparency and the general public's "right" to know everything as it happens. Some information just doesn't need to be out there in real time.
I'd wager there's a lot our government knows that hasn't been released to the press.

People may just be thanking the NSA when this is all said and done :hihi:

-spence

Raven 03-16-2014 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 1035472)
Anyone else find it curious the pilot owned his own flight simulator?? I did right out of the gate??
yeah me too.....and it became a decision of wether he was the best pilot ever...or up to no good....

and who else he trained @ home

Raven 03-16-2014 05:45 PM
as for a political protest

it would have to be a straight trade of passenger's of flight 370 for
gitmo detainee's

BigBo 03-16-2014 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Raven (Post 1035481)
yeah me too.....and it became a decision of wether he was the best pilot ever...or up to no good....

and who else he trained @ home
Not according to your original post. :smash:

Raven 03-16-2014 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by BigBo (Post 1035485)
Not according to your original post. :smash:
that was theory number ONE

BigBo 03-16-2014 06:04 PM
Theory number one was the aliens? :rotf2:

Raven 03-16-2014 06:26 PM
yoda did it

Raven 03-17-2014 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by nightfighter (Post 1035398)
European press... Do you read Polish? Looking for stories in English.

No one has said anything about the cargo.....have they?

I think plane is on the ground, in one piece, in a Russian state. Not sure what they would have done about passengers. They wouldn't last long if someone lowered oxygen levels by overriding controls. Crew has their own oxygen supply. At least on American carriers.

But someone, or something on that plane was the target, IMHO. The plane itself could have been the target, but I don't think so. I also think our two naval assets already in the Indian Ocean are not there with the search as their primary mission. I would expect a larger presence soon.
the fact that 20 members of one tech company all being on board did
ring a bell

buckman 03-17-2014 07:29 AM
I heard today that there are over 600 runways where the plane could have landed.
Also the pilots family moved out the day before the flight and have not been heard from . I'm not sure the validity of all this. I just heard bits and pieces on the news
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Raven 03-17-2014 04:40 PM
time eddy theory still stands
 
as a result of the big bang theory

this article validates the " Idea "

as a potential "possibility"

http://txchnologist.com/post/7988322...Email%20distro
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...4oe1rpydpj.gif

spence 03-18-2014 07:35 AM
I'm leaning toward the cockpit fire theory for now…seems to fit most of the evidence…aside from the bit where some communication equipment was turned off before the co-pilot signed off…but perhaps that reporting is wrong.

-spence

Raven 03-18-2014 07:54 AM
that wouldn't explain no messages from passengers getting thru
unless they all were out of range but i thought "maybe :huh: "
a satellite might
be able to get a signal ... i dunno

vineyardblues 03-18-2014 08:05 AM
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This is why they have no cell service

BigBo 03-18-2014 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vineyardblues (Post 1035600)
This is why they have no cell service
Raven was right all along!!!!!!!!!!! :want:

Raven 03-18-2014 10:10 AM
any time there's electromagnetic interference
from an electromagnetic pulse weapon
or any other source ...nothing works anymore

that could be an explanation of why the pilot was flying
such a crazy pattern if it wasn't a deliberate act
of hijacking the aircraft

same thing happened to 8 of our own navy pilots
a long long time ago after some planes went missing and they
were the search squad....NONE of them were ever found again.

spence 03-18-2014 10:28 AM
Some interesting remarks by pilots I read today. They suspect the front tires caught on fire on take off or a fire started in another manner. The captain would know what airport options he had in case of an emergency and entered this into the autopilot first thing. Then they'd start shutting down systems to isolate the issue. Pilots get overwhelmed by smoke and are knocked out...the plane then continues on autopilot until it runs out of gas.

There is an ideal airport on the new heading they took...they would have flown right over it.

Doesn't answer everything but it is a plausible scenario.

-spence

buckman 03-18-2014 10:34 AM
Remember Paine Stewart . The plane climbed to 65k . Is this not plausible here also ?
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Nebe 03-18-2014 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1035618)
Some interesting remarks by pilots I read today. They suspect the front tires caught on fire on take off or a fire started in another manner. The captain would know what airport options he had in case of an emergency and entered this into the autopilot first thing. Then they'd start shutting down systems to isolate the issue. Pilots get overwhelmed by smoke and are knocked out...the plane then continues on autopilot until it runs out of gas.

There is an ideal airport on the new heading they took...they would have flown right over it.

Doesn't answer everything but it is a plausible scenario.

-spence
One would think that the first thing that the pilot would do is notify the tower that THERE WAS A FIRE ON BOARD...

I think that this was a pilot suicide event due to his political beliefs to bring attention to the opposition party. I also think that the Malaysian government has known this all along and is a reason why it was so slow to release information..

spence 03-18-2014 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1035622)
One would think that the first thing that the pilot would do is notify the tower that THERE WAS A FIRE ON BOARD...
There's nothing ground control can do to help at that instant. I'd think their energy would be focused on where the aircraft was going and addressing the issue. If it was a bad fire you could have perhaps a few minutes.

I'm sure there's a pretty standard process they train for in these situations.

-spence

Piscator 03-18-2014 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1035626)
There's nothing ground control can do to help at that instant. I'd think their energy would be focused on where the aircraft was going and addressing the issue. If it was a bad fire you could have perhaps a few minutes.

I'm sure there's a pretty standard process they train for in these situations.

-spence
They've reported that the very first thing ingrained in pilots when an emergency occurs is to communicate the issue to ground control (especially when manually shuttting systems down). I'm not a pilot so I can't confirm but it's been reported numerous times so far.
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spence 03-18-2014 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 1035628)
They've reported that the very first thing ingrained in pilots when an emergency occurs is to communicate the issue to ground control (especially when manually shuttting systems down). I'm not a pilot so I can't confirm but it's been reported numerous times so far.
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Ha, I read just the opposite ;)

-spence

Nebe 03-18-2014 11:16 AM
Navigate then communicate.
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spence 03-18-2014 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1035630)
Navigate then communicate.
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If I remember it was aviate, navigate then communicate.

The "incident" appears to have happened as they were passing off to Thai controllers. That could have contributed confusion.

-spence

GattaFish 03-18-2014 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Piscator (Post 1035628)
They've reported that the very first thing ingrained in pilots when an emergency occurs is to communicate the issue to ground control (especially when manually shuttting systems down). I'm not a pilot so I can't confirm but it's been reported numerous times so far.
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Nope.

Aviate, navigate then communicate.
That puts ATC Last.
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Spence beat me to it. What may further be an issue with communications is if they were switching over to HF radio.

spence 03-18-2014 11:23 AM
Here's the piece that's making the rounds today.

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2014/03...ectrical-fire/

-spence

Piscator 03-18-2014 11:31 AM
Good thing I'm not a pilot!
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