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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1067541)

in the open letter that I cited from a RI for hire he threatened to "drop many dimes"... if RI went 1@ all modes...I hope he was/is true to his word....

Its funny how many people are heavily in favor of conservation, yet are friends with so many guys poaching.

That is so very true
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The lack of any news, updates, or discussion about RI is very unsettling..............
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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 1067583)

Its funny how many people are heavily in favor of conservation, yet are friends with so many guys poaching.

Ding!
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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1067589)

Ding!
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Ding Ding Ding !

I don't think it's funny IMO

sad would have been a better adjective

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Originally Posted by thefishingfreak (Post 1067529)

I have been fishing boston harbor for over 20 years on multiple boats and been boarded maybe 3x by the green cops. Everyone knows they work 9-5
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I saw them out on the water a few times last year in the middle of the night, more often than I expected

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1067541)

this is odd to me as Medieros and the RISSA hierarchy appeared determined to adopt the position of Belevance and his association throughout the process

I was not in the committee meetings or involved in any way with the internal process of how RISAA chose positions on either the 2014 ASMFC SB Addendum or the 2015 RI State Regs for SB. That being said I can say with confidence that things are frequently not as they appear.

One of the most difficult responsibilities an officer of any organization has to face, is to represent the positions of the organization as opposed to his or her own. Its a hard thing to do. Many times while representing MSBA, the New England Council's Recreational Advisory Panel and other groups on which I serve, I have had to propose, advocate for & defend positions on issues that I not only questioned, but in some cases were 100% the opposite of what I felt was the right thing to do.

RISAA is a complex organization with an individual membership, affiliated organizations etc etc. RISAA has boards and committees with specific responsibilities and has an internal process which I respect. My understanding is that the process of taking positions on both SB actions caused internal struggle and I for one appreciate leadership that allows an organization to work through the struggle in order to best represent its membership.

Simply put, Steve Medeiros and I do not always agree however on the subject of striped bass conservation I consider Steve an ally.

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Originally Posted by BasicPatrick (Post 1067606)

I was not in the committee meetings or involved in any way with the internal process of how RISAA chose positions on either the 2014 ASMFC SB Addendum or the 2015 RI State Regs for SB. That being said I can say with confidence that things are frequently not as they appear.this has become crystal clear

One of the most difficult responsibilities an officer of any organization has to face, is to represent the positions of the organization as opposed to his or her own. Its a hard thing to do. Many times while representing MSBA, the New England Council's Recreational Advisory Panel and other groups on which I serve, I have had to propose, advocate for & defend positions on issues that I not only questioned, but in some cases were 100% the opposite of what I felt was the right thing to do.

RISAA is a complex organization with an individual membership, affiliated organizations etc etc. RISAA has boards and committees with specific responsibilities and has an internal process which I respect. My understanding is that the process of taking positions on both SB actions caused internal struggle and I for one appreciate leadership that allows an organization to work through the struggle in order to best represent its membership.

Simply put, Steve Medeiros and I do not always agree however on the subject of striped bass conservation I consider Steve an ally.

I understand this Patrick and I appreciate your knowledge and dedication, I agree that it is sad if the RI decision is now as you describe....I had some confidence that it was being made by others and not simply Bellevance vs. Medeiros

if the public comment period not been extended and had the RISSA letter not gone out at the last hour, again changing their official position, I don't think you would/could be considering Steve an "ally(in his capacity) on this issue" as they were supporting option #2(albeit with a caveat)....it would not be much of a heavyweight battle between these two right now deciding the fate of RI...perhaps a love fest

I'd like to think that the "delay" is a result of the outpouring of sentiment from the public to the various officials which I know to be significant, rather than a turf war between the RISSA president and the head of one of organizations it claims to represent, the late shift in RISSA position was clearly a result of members making their thoughts heard...these were the opposing forces throughout...without...this would likely be a done deal....where is Ms. Coit and the RIMFC in all of this? I thought they were running things?:eek:

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Originally Posted by likwid (Post 1067583)

Its funny how many people are heavily in favor of conservation, yet are friends with so many guys poaching.

Knowing some one (friend) and Participation are not one in the same .

But when environmental police board boats with fish before the start of the commercial day and all the do is take the fish thats the injustice

it should be an instant forfeiture of your commercial license for 5 years and a per fish fine .. there is no deterrent only incentive they just go out the next night the odds are in their favor never to see a environmental boat the rest of the season

We got boarded in cape cod bay a few years ago on a Saturday among a bunch of boats. Was a good bite going on too. After shooting the breeze with the two cops for a few minutes they got called off on an emergency.
Beyond pathetic to see all the nice bass floating by belly up a little while later from the cooler dumping.
Human nature I guess.
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Originally Posted by MAKAI (Post 1067626)

Well now there's a big problem. The fishery becomes what it can be because there are no enforced rules.

Human nature is evidently corrupt first, then act concerned later. Sad.
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Without a doubt in my mind human nature is corrupt.
A deep rooted survival instinct, enjoy it while we can.
The rats and roaches will get another kick at the can when we destroy the place.
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"Paging rhode island DeM... Paging rhode island DEM... "

Well???????
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