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striperswiper75 09-24-2015 07:25 AM
I am wondering why the entire operation took 2 months to put together. Hopefully each operation doesn't require 2 months worth of work to implement.
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Nebe 09-24-2015 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by striperswiper75 (Post 1082439)
I am wondering why the entire operation took 2 months to put together. Hopefully each operation doesn't require 2 months worth of work to implement.
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My guess - vhf chatter was recorded. Radar positions were recorded.. Number of infractions. Possibly the dem followed fishermen on land to Mass to prove that they were selling in mass.
All things to build a solid case and to eliminate the "it was an accident" excuse.

Just a guess....
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Rob Rockcrawler 09-24-2015 10:08 AM
It would be great if they can bust some of the buyers as well if they can prove the fish were knowingly illegal and bought. Reducing demand is another way to slow down the black market. I am in the market for a new boat would love to get a steal at auction with built in mojo. I wonder how long it will take for the other names to be released.

bassballer 09-24-2015 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by bart (Post 1082337)
I love how Cowhunter only shows up on here when there's some controversy he feels the need to throw his 2 cents in about. One of the biggest hypocrites on here, calling this a witch hunt, when he's called out other people for similar things But no, this is a witch hunt because it doesn't seem to affect him in any way, ie the Striper Cup.

No one gives a #^&#^&#^&#^& about your opinion...Go back to slaughtering bass because the law allows it.
i was typing this same post but retracted it. :claps:

dannyplug1 09-24-2015 10:24 AM
I don't care how old ray is he is a crook, or a thief which ever sounds better. Time to end the BS while there are some fish left. Prosecute to the fullest extent of the law.

CowHunter 09-24-2015 11:38 AM
Nobody is loosing their boat, nobody is going to jail worst case a summons just like a speeding ticket.
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RIROCKHOUND 09-24-2015 12:25 PM
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Worst case a summons just like a speeding ticket.
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The fact that after being caught over the limit, multiple times,is the reality, sucks.

DZ 09-24-2015 12:59 PM
And one is a former DEM employee. That department has a terrible track record of employees/former employees that break the law. Some repeat offenders. Fines aside, at the very least I'd like to petition the licensing board to permanently take away the R&R permits these guys have carried for many years.

Nebe 09-24-2015 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1082474)
And one is a former DEM employee. That department has a terrible track record of employees/former employees that break the law. Some repeat offenders. Fines aside, at the very least I'd like to petition the licensing board to permanently take away the R&R permits these guys have carried for many years.
A former DEM employee !!! LMAO!!!!

let me guess.. he fell down on the job and his uncle who is a DR made sure he is on disability... :angel::angel:

tautog 09-24-2015 01:05 PM
I think it's great but I also would like to see DEM start checking restaurants as all bass bought have to have a tag or paperwork as far as I know. It might stop the back door sales that we all know is flourishing in every city and town.

DZ 09-24-2015 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tautog (Post 1082477)
I think it's great but I also would like to see DEM start checking restaurants as all bass bought have to have a tag or paperwork as far as I know. It might stop the back door sales that we all know is flourishing in every city and town.
I'm thinking the sting is still on going with this problem. Next time you see it on a menu (usually its a special) ask the server for the tag number of the fish and tell them you want to know if its legal before you order it. If they can't provide the number ask for the kitchen manager. If they can't provide it call enforcement. If everyone of us did this it would clean up some of the back door dealing.

chefchris401 09-24-2015 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tautog (Post 1082477)
I think it's great but I also would like to see DEM start checking restaurants as all bass bought have to have a tag or paperwork as far as I know. It might stop the back door sales that we all know is flourishing in every city and town.
its crazy how much of this goes on, having been in the restuarnt business for 20 years Ive seen it a lot, from fish that are under sized, closed season, no season, shellfish with no tags, guys selling beef/meat from their farms with no paperwork, eggs,chickens, etc.

Sea Dangles 09-24-2015 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tautog (Post 1082477)
I think it's great but I also would like to see DEM start checking restaurants as all bass bought have to have a tag or paperwork as far as I know. It might stop the back door sales that we all know is flourishing in every city and town.
That would include tuna😎
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Nebe 09-24-2015 03:55 PM
All you have to do is ask the fisherman to see a receipt for his Chinese food order.. No receipt = poo poo platter for keeper trade :rotfl:
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bassballer 09-24-2015 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 1082478)
I'm thinking the sting is still on going with this problem. Next time you see it on a menu (usually its a special) ask the server for the tag number of the fish and tell them you want to know if its legal before you order it. If they can't provide the number ask for the kitchen manager. If they can't provide it call enforcement. If keveryone of us did this it would clean up some of the back door dealing.
I don't know Dennis. You'd then have a hard time getting served at any Newport restaurant.
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ProfessorM 09-24-2015 04:25 PM
This group wants this, that group wants that, no one wants the other group to get more than them. Blackmarket, poaching, stacking, undersize fish by recs. Seems gamefish status would end all the bickering and mistrust and the winner would be the fish. I lean closer towards this decision every year.
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Nebe 09-24-2015 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by ProfessorM (Post 1082500)
This group wants this, that group wants that, no one wants the other group to get more than them. Blackmarket, poaching, stacking, undersize fish by recs. Seems gamefish status would end all the bickering and mistrust and the winner would be the fish. I lean closer towards this decision every year.
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:claps::claps::claps::claps::claps::claps::claps:: claps:

CowHunter 09-24-2015 05:15 PM
It's a gamefish in New Jersey and more fish get killed here by recs than any other state and more fish get sold black market than any other state. We still have a two fish limit plus bonus tags lol oh but wait we are a gamefish state with no com fishing
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CowHunter 09-24-2015 05:16 PM
Every time you see Chilean sea bass on the menu well you know.... And you can catch me 9-10 months a year if you want
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ProfessorM 09-24-2015 06:20 PM
gamefish to me means no one keeps anything. Catch and release. Enjoy the sport of fishing. No selling of bass in restaurants, no rec keeping of fish. No one keeps anything. How can it be a gamefish in NJ and recs keep 2 a day?

Nebe 09-24-2015 07:50 PM
It will never happen. Too many hands in the cookie jar.
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CowHunter 09-24-2015 08:51 PM
Professor, Maine and NJ are only striped bass gamefish states lol. The recs just define gamefish differently than you
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CowHunter 09-24-2015 08:51 PM
And it's 2 a day plus bonus tag so really it's 3 fish
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Nebe 09-24-2015 09:19 PM
This reminds me of cow hunter spouting off on how great the bass stocks were.
Where is that guy these days anyway?
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dannyplug1 09-24-2015 11:22 PM
72 years old? Guess he's getting a lifetime achievement award for killing breeders for the on the water striper cup.
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Raven 09-25-2015 05:02 AM
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It will never happen. Too many hands in the cookie jar.
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on a different topic ......
which we won't go into here because it's political
that's just what hillary said (nebe)
to basically :point: avoid the issue entirely

CowHunter 09-25-2015 08:42 AM
Nebe, I only run charters out of New Jersey / NY in spring and fall. I can't run up to New England like I used to as I spend time with the family over the summer with my kids, don't want that time to pass me by while they are young. I had a great spring and great fall last year. I have no problems limiting out over 90 percent of my trips. You have to be adaptive and not do the same crap as the fishery is always changing.
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Nebe 09-25-2015 08:45 AM
That I agree with.
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ProfessorM 09-25-2015 09:09 AM
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And it's 2 a day plus bonus tag so really it's 3 fish
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And they consider that gamefish status? Wow
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bart 09-25-2015 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by CowHunter (Post 1082547)
Nebe, I only run charters out of New Jersey / NY in spring and fall. I can't run up to New England like I used to as I spend time with the family over the summer with my kids, don't want that time to pass me by while they are young. I had a great spring and great fall last year. I have no problems limiting out over 90 percent of my trips. You have to be adaptive and not do the same crap as the fishery is always changing.
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So basically you'd still kill every bass in the ocean if you're weren't being a good family.

You're singing a different tune here only because it appears that some of these guys might be your buddies who are fishing different waters, not competing with you. I'm sorry, but you're still full of #^&#^&#^&#^&.


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