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"a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life." She is saying that the experience of being a white man, somehow leaves one less qualified to render quality legal opinions, than one who is Latina and female (all other things being equal, I suppose). It's racist. It's sexist. And it's absurdly stupid. I know it's stupid, because I don't see white, male, Georgetown Law School graduates risking their lives to float on rafts to emigrate to Latino nations, in search of "that life", which according to this dolt, would instantly make them superior jurists. |
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Let's re-state your handiwork on this post, in terms of gauging "intent". "Trump's insinuation was that his heritage would compromise his ability to uphold the law" So even though Trump never explicitly said as much, you are able to determine that his insinuation, or "intent" was racist. His statement isn't racist. But you are able to conclude that his intent is racist. Sotomayor, on the other hand, comes right out and says that in terms of judicial ability female Latinas are superior to white males. That is textbook racism. Fortunately for her, you can see past that to her "intent", which even though you chose not to share it, was certainly something worthy of a Nobel Prize. In other words, according to you, (1) conservatives are racist even when they are not, and (2) liberals aren't racist, even when they are. Cue the 'Twilight Zone' music... |
You still haven't read your own link have you...
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Racism
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination I bounce trumps comments against the definition in Miriam Webster and it doesn't pass the smell test....he maybe a crass a-hole Now I bounce Sotamayors comments against it and.....if it walks like a duck. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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We all know what she said. Try to spin it any way you want. Those words aren't open to a lot of different interpretations. I chose a liberal link, because if I chose The Blaze, you might have claimed they were making it up. |
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"The phrase "La Raza" is actually truncated from "La Raza Cósmica," a phrase coined by politician and philosopher José Vasconcelos (also a former secretary of education and 1929 presidential candidate in Mexico) to describe the ideology that the mixture of ethnicities in the New World ushered in a new era of humanity characterized by love and inclusivity." I do believe it was adopted frequently this century to promote Latino civil rights. But to assume the use of the word "la" indicates superiority...shows you really don't understand how to address a feminine noun. |
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"The purpose of the speech, she said, was to "talk to you about my Latina identity, where it came from, and the influence I perceive it has on my presence on the bench." Spence, if she said "I believe my experience as a Latina female gives me a good foundation upon which to judge fairly", NO ONE would have a problem with that. That's not what she said. She didn't just celebrate her own heritage. She said, with no abiguity, that her heritage (and gender) are superior to that of a white man. If she made that same exact statement during questioning for jury duty, she would be rightly excluded. She's unfit to serve on a jury, but there she is on SCOTUS. Thanks to your hero. |
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"I do believe See what I did there? How about we stop talking about things that don't matter (race and gender), and we judge people by what they actually say and do? why is that beyond the grasp of liberals? Answer - because what liberals say and do is indefensible (let's let Willie Horton use the girls room if he claims to identify as such), demonstrably false (if we tweak taxes on the 1%, we can balance our budget), and in some cases (abortion), practically Satanic. |
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OK, let's make this simple. I read that quote, and I conclude that she thinks that female Latinas, are superior to white men (in terms of rendering legal conclusions). What other meaning can there possibly be, to that quote? Again, instead of insulting me, tell me where I am wrong, please? |
Read your own link Jim. Are you like afraid?
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Spence, here is what the author said...
"it (her speech)amounted to little more than Sotomayor acknowledging that judges, like anyone, are products of where and how they grew up. " That's pure bullsh*t. She didn't just say that she is the product of her heritage. She said that her heritage produces a superior jurist than a white man's heritage. Those are 2 very different things to say. (1) I am white, therefore I am superior to blacks. (2) I am white, and therefore I have a life experience that contributes to who I am. Spence, you see no distinction between those 2 statements? They are the same to you? Because that's exactly how the author explains what she said. It's ridiculous. |
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There are white Mexicans. There are black Mexicans. There are yellow Mexicans. There are red Mexicans. And there are mixtures of these type of Mexicans. The U.S. also has white, black, yellow, and red Americans, and mixtures of those types. So if Mexican and American are races, are they the same race? It would seem so. The same can be said of all North and South American countries and Most European countries. Apparently, if the name of those countries is a race, the members of those countries must all belong to the same race. One might generalize and call it the human race If you say something negative about someone who is of the same race as you, would that be racist? On the other hand, if by race we mean human groups with common genetic markers which meaningfully differentiate from those genetic markers of other human groups, then the name of countries used as racial types is ridiculous. And, indeed in that case, a given American can be a racist in regard to another American. And, as well, a given Mexican can be a racist in regard to another Mexican. And, indeed, in the social hierarchy of Mexico, there is a preference for whiteness and a racial discrimination against "the other," as per Wikipedia: "An important phenomenon described for some parts of Latin America such as Brazil and Mexico is "Whitening" or "Mestizaje" describing the policy of planned racial mixing with the purpose of minimizing the non-white part of the population." Mexicans can be quite racist, even, and especially, toward other Mexicans and Latin Americans. It is a Mexican policy not to allow "undocumented" immigrants to stay in Mexico. That was egregiously demonstrated when they wouldn't let the famous thousands of unaccompanied children from Honduras and Guatemala who crossed into Mexico stay there, but put them on trains to the U.S. border, dropping them there to enter this country. And that action was strongly supported by all those innocent Latino and Mexican organizations such as those in the Washington Post article that Spence posted. And those "non-political" organizations did not criticize Mexico for not helping the unaccompanied Latino children. Nor did they demand that Mexico should even take its "share." But they helped facilitate the immigration of those children into this country. And they condemned Americans who objected to keeping the children which in turn would necessitate bringing in the parents and families of those thousands of children who would all then be destined for citizenship. No, of course not . . . those various Mexican and Latino organizations had no ulterior racial or ethnic motivation in "helping" those children and their families, nor in helping all the other millions of their "race" (actually ethnicity) do well in this country. Even if it would be at the expense of other Americans. And, certainly, no one belonging to any of those apolitical, beneficent, non-discriminatory, organizations would have any bias against someone like Trump who says he wants to BUILD A FRIGGING WALL between Mexico and the U.S. And who has said things about some of their fellow ethnics which they have strongly condemned. Anyway, Trump did not refer to a race. He referred to an ethnicity, and an ethnic heritage, in which a member of it might well be biased against him because of his statements regarding that ethnicity--NOT REGARDING ANY "RACE." |
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican, appointed Curiel in 2006 to the state superior court, where he spent six years before ascending to the federal court.
Schwarzenegger affirmed his support for Curiel on Monday tweeting: "Judge Curiel is an American hero who stood up to the Mexican cartels. I was proud to appoint him when I was Gov." Trump Defender Representative Duncan Hunter What I like to do is take these arguments out to there logical extremes. So let’s say that Chris Kyle, the American sniper, is still alive and he was on trial for something, and his judge was a Muslim-American of Iraqi descent. Here you have Chris Kyle, who’s killed a whole bunch of bad guys in Iraq. Would that be a fair trial for Chris Kyle? If you had that judge there? Probably not. And Chris Kyle could probably say, “this guy’s not gonna like me.” from the author.. Moreover, Sotomayor’s point rather plainly was that ethnic minorities who enter the legal profession—intelligent people with diversity of experience—will have a wider range of understanding than their more cloistered peers, and that will aide their judgment. It was not to say that white judges, by virtue of their whiteness, are incapable of standing in judgment of certain minorities impartially. newrepublic.com/article/134110/annotated-guide-republicans-defenses-trumps-mexican-judge-comments this seem to following the same old pattern |
30!+ years Trump has been in the public eye .... Never once has he been accused as a racist .
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http://fortune.com/2016/06/07/donald...racism-quotes/ Even that's moot though, his behavior during the campaign seems to be evidence enough for the last GOP nominee, House and Senate leadership etc... etc... |
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Proposing a temporary ban on Muslims is not a reference to race. Muslim is not a race. Calling a black man "my African American," unless you're hyper sensitivity makes it so, is not a derogatory remark about blacks. Not renting to blacks could be racist--unless you're just following daddy's orders. It also might be more economically based than on race per se. Having the opinion, right or wrong, that a well-educated black has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated white in terms of the job market is not a denigration of blacks. And it's certainly no more "racist" than saying a well-educated white has a tremendous advantage over a well-educated black. The quote in the O'Donnell book could be racist, or it could be that "the only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys wearing yarmulkes", which would exclude most other ethnicities and races including most white men from being those he wanted counting his money. It's kind of a funny statement if you're not too sensitive. Chris Rock could get away with saying it and get a laugh. And even though the "Besides that" portion of the quote is racist, he now denies saying it. And Trump has several "important" people who say he is not a racist. Dredging up old stuff that is not actually racist but casting it as so, smacks of desperation. And it offends millions who are tired of calling everything racism. Those who are adamantly opposed to trump, and want to believe anything negative about him, will eat up the examples in the article with private, self-satisfying glee. Those who are weary of "racism" around every corner will just be even more likely to vote for Trump. And those who want to protect what's left of the Constitution, if they are really serious about that, and its their most important issue, will be forced to vote for Trump. Even the ones who really don't like Trump. I would, at this time, fall into that category. |
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Trump has certainly cornered the "we're sick of your crap" vote....:humpty: like Obama...he's much better on teleprompter than when he's running his mouth unfiltered |
House Speaker Paul Ryan ripped Donald Trump's recent remarks saying a judge presiding over a lawsuit involving his business was biased because of his Mexican heritage as "the textbook definition of a racist comment."
From the leading republican in the GOP I guess he's wrong along with everyone else who took his meaning :huh: |
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Mexican heritage is not a race. Mexican population is comprised of all the genetic races. And not all Mexicans have the same heritage. Mexican is not a race, but it is part of Curiel's heritage. And if Mexican were a race, and American were a race, then, if Curiel is American, not Mexican, what would be his race? And if we insist that his Mexican heritage is his race, then Donald Trump is right--it would mean Curiel is, as Trump is reputed to have said, Mexican, not American. Do you see how twisted and convoluted it becomes when language becomes sloppy and words morph into incorrect meanings when it suits the speaker to use them that way? And how devious that is when used to slander someones character? And why the tactic is so prevalent in politics? BTW, another reason Trump is popular with so many is that he is not afraid of the media. |
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