Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1153795)

If you look at some of the designs for new gender neutral bathrooms it will make more sense.
Instead of having a room with sinks and somewhat of an enclosure around toilet/urinals, they have a common washing room and private toilet rooms with no gaps to look thru (either way).
Pretty scary apparently

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153794)

I have baby-sat my nieces a zillion times, and I can't tell you how many times, when they were around 9 years old, I walked them to the entrance of a public women's room and waited. It never occurred to me that I'm narrow-minded for not being comfortable with a grown man walking in there with my nieces. It never occurred to be that if Willie Horton said "I'm a woman", that courtesy suggests that I hold the door open for him/her so he could follow my nieces in there.

In a perfect world, all public restrooms would be single toilet and gender neutral. But they weren't built that way originally (because the people who built them never fathomed we'd go this far over the edge), and we can't retroactively modify all of them to make it so.

So someone is going to have to sacrifice personal comfort for the comfort of others. I don't especially like the idea of asking little girls to make the sacrifice so that adult males can go into the ladies room. I don't want to see those people harassed in the mens room either, but I'm of the opinion that adults make sacrifices for children, not the other way around.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153799)

You're missing the point. Lots of women don't want to be in the room with a man, doesn't matter if the toilet stalls go to the ground. I can't say I'd be comfortable with a woman sharing a rest room with me, but at least I know I don't need to fear of getting attacked. Women don't have that luxury.

If you had the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes for just a moment, you'd see it. But liberals struggle to accept that some people disagree with them, and some who disagree, are actually normal, rational, nice people. We aren't all sub-human. But in this case, you are mocking the notion that any woman could ever have a legitimate reason to not want to share a restroom with a man. Nit everyone is exactly like you, not everyone feels exactly the same way. Solipsism (the belief that everyone is just like me), is rabid among liberals.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153799)

You're missing the point. Lots of women don't want to be in the room with a man, doesn't matter if the toilet stalls go to the ground. I can't say I'd be comfortable with a woman sharing a rest room with me, but at least I know I don't need to fear of getting attacked. Women don't have that luxury.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1153806)

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153807)

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1153806)

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1153809)

is a "transgender woman" a guy that thinks he's a girl or a girl that thinks she's a guy?...I get these confused...or does it just work either way?

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153807)

i’ve heard of men claiming to identify as a woman, attack and harass women in the ladies room. if you can’t foresee that this could happen, you are the most naive person who ever lived.
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1153806)

Have you ever heard of a transgender woman attacking another woman?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1153810)

Confusion is typical for you, isn’t it?
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1153812)

Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1153811)

Never heard of it happening. Rarely a man goes into the woman's bathroom

Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1153813)

I'm usually confused and amused by the nonsense you post..care to provide an answer?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1153808)

I’ve heard of straight men going into women’s restrooms and attacking them
I’d bet it’s far more common than cross dressing rapists
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1153812)

Its not about being attacked, its about the fact that it just makes some women feel uncomfortable. And the fact that they aren't comfortable with it is being completely ignored because they are worried about the comfort of a smaller group of people.

Basically the fact that a Trans-gendered woman not feeling comfortable using a restroom with Cis-gendered Males is more important than Cis-gendered women not feeling comfortable using a restroom with a Trans-gendered woman.

Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1153812)

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Some women don't like male doctors, they just don't feel comfortable with them.

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153817)

It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153817)

That's what I mean, straight men. And you would make it much easier for them to get access to ladies rooms, all they need to do is say "I identify as a woman", and you'd hold the door for them to stroll right in. It's the heterosexual predators that women need to worry about. It never occurs to you that one of them would lie about identifying as a woman, just to get access to the ladies room? Seriously?

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1153820)

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient . :hee:

Originally Posted by Cool Beans (Post 1153822)

So should we start referring to you as Spence 2.0?

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1153821)

Ever seen a drag queen?
You’d hold the door and never know
Probably stare at their ass also
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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1153820)

I've decided to become Gender-Fluid, I figure I can claim I'm female when it's convenient so I can get into all the different Ladies Nights and get $3 draughts. :hee:

Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153827)

If I said "I am a bird", a conservative would tell me I need to see a psychiatrist. A liberal would help me knock down my house, and build a nest where my house once stood.

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1153816)

Look for yourself if you’re that interested
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153826)

Where is it written, that for men to use the ladies room, they have to be unrecognizable as a man? Where did you get that from?

I've seen drag queens who had full beards, but wore ladies' wigs. If a guy is happy with a beard and a wig, I say he should go for it. But I don't want him in a public restroom with my wife, and sure as hell not with my daughter if I had daughters. You are making stuff up as you go along, in a desperate attempt to justify your opinion.

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1153843)

This is the same defense Spence uses when feeling trapped
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1153607)

well my whole ira is in the stock market and i love trump for it. true about the debt. he is judged by his whole term, not one year. the market is up nicely since january 2107.
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