another dodge.

it’s not remotely political, it’s logical. if the entire pro choice movement is based on the premise that a woman can do what she wants with her body and that the thing inside her isn’t human, why does that position evaporate suddenly at some random point during pregnancy?

you can’t answer logically obviously, because there isn’t an answer with a speck of logic. you’re also not honest enough to admit that, so you desperately dance around it.
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Watch this, but you won't get a politician to say it for the reasons I put forth previously.

It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

You complain that liberals want to tax soft drinks with the goal of reducing healthcare costs and reducing the obesity of Americans, saying people should have the right to do whatever they want and it doesn't matter if they die.

But you claim the right to control women, their physicians and their decisions.

and i’ve seen planned parenthood celebrate the anniversary of Roe with of all things, birthday cake.
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i claim nothing here. for the third time, i’m asking why a woman’s right to self autonomy, ends at some point during the pregnancy?

you’re getting a little worked up here. why not just answer the question.

it’s much more logically consistent, to say that the mom has that right throughout, and therefore support abortion until
birth. i don’t agree with that, but i concede the logical consistency.

you cannot win this pete, i literally have all the cards.
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i’m pretty sure that my decision to drink a Big Gulp from 7-11, doesn’t necessarily involve the concurrent slaughter of an unborn baby.
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Because it is politically suicide to say that because it is purely a political question and will be used with a ghastly graphic to attack.
Not in a truthful manner, nobody gleefully pursues abortions or the legislation thereof, are you that stupid that you cannot see it.

My opinion is still: It is a woman's body and her decision, mind your own #^&#^&#^&#^&ing business.

So, I have answered your question.
Tell me why legislating for public health regarding disease is bad, but legislating for public health regarding reproductive control is acceptable?

How did this get to government intrusion into citizens lives from Trump's PR meltdown?

if it’s a women’s rights issue, funny how so many women are opposed to it. are they all self
loathing masochists?

and you you support
abortion until the moment of birth?

not sure how we got here...happy to drop it.
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Funny how’s its a women’s issue , until we have to discuss child support. Then it’s a “It takes two” issue.

What if the mother is pro life and the father is pro choice? Does this absolve him of child support? What if it’s reversed, does that mean he now has no say on whether to keep it or not?

It’s not as cut and dry as it’s her body and she can do what she wants.
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80% of americans support R vs W in some form

20% want no limit

As far as I'm concerned it's between you and your god or lack thereof, I feel no more guilt about other peoples behavior than I do about black people being brought to this country as slaves.
Perhaps you do

i feel no guilt. what i feel, and you don’t, is empathy.
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I think that's high, the number of people who really want no limits is very low. What you do get though is a political push back effect where people will position themselves based on an opposing force each trying to resist a slippery slope.

it’s not high among the democratic presidential candidates.
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What if he raped her?

"In a shocking exchange during a press conference, a reporter directly asked the Finnish president, "What kind of favors has Mr. Trump asked from you?” referencing President Trump's call with the Ukranian president at the center of an impeachment inquiry."

Ouch :jester:

Fake news Pal
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Fake news Pal
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Well. if that doesn't settle it, I don't know what does. :rolleyes: