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spence 12-17-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182282)
I'm glad the letter from Trump to Pelosi was written.

It will be a great reminder to future historians and students how nuts this President was.

I think the bigger issue will be how nuts Trump's devotees were, especially Congressional Republicans.

Jim in CT 12-17-2019 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1182260)
If the Sen. wants to conduct a trial w/o any witnesses, the house should not send over the impeachment. Trump will be impeached and not exonerated.

That works. And given that there's a great chance that 1 or 2 democratic senators vote to acquit (from WV and Alabama I think), it saves dems from having to admit that exoneration was bipartisan.

PaulS 12-17-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1182288)
That works. And given that there's a great chance that 1 or 2 democratic senators vote to acquit (from WV and Alabama I think), it saves dems from having to admit that exoneration was bipartisan.

So you think 1 or 2 senators voting differently is bipartisan?

Do you think it is appropriate to have a trial w/no witnesses?

PaulS 12-17-2019 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182282)
I'm glad the letter from Trump to Pelosi was written.

It will be a great reminder to future historians and students how nuts this President was.

Her response should be if you would like to testify under oath you are certainly welcome.

Jim in CT 12-17-2019 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1182290)
So you think 1 or 2 senators voting differently is bipartisan?

Do you think it is appropriate to have a trial w/no witnesses?

"So you think 1 or 2 senators voting differently is bipartisan?"

Not really. But I bet if 5% of Republican house members vote to impeach, that would get spun as bipartisan. But there's not a lot of bipartisanship here, no.

"Do you think it is appropriate to have a trial w/no witnesses"

No. But if the Democrats in the House control witnesses there, the majority party of the senate should have similar authority.

He's going to get impeached. He's not going to get convicted. The only question is, will they try again before November or do they take their chances with one of their unelectable freaks currently running?

Pete F. 12-17-2019 07:40 PM

New Post/ABC poll:

-- 71% of Americans say Trump should allow top aides to testify at Senate trial

-- 55% say House hearings have been fair to Trump (not a "coup")

-- 49% say Trump should be impeached *and removed,* versus 46% who say he shouldn't
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Pete F. 12-17-2019 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1182279)
You should present it as exhibit A
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The scariest part is either there’s nobody around him saying the letter needs work or he’s literally surrounded by idiots now.
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spence 12-17-2019 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182301)
The scariest part is either there’s nobody around him saying the letter needs work or he’s literally surrounded by idiots now.
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He should be impeached on the letter alone.
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Sea Dangles 12-17-2019 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182301)
The scariest part is either there’s nobody around him saying the letter needs work or he’s literally surrounded by idiots now.
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It’s terrifying PeteF.
Get to your safe spot quickly.
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Pete F. 12-17-2019 11:49 PM

Silly boy
🍑🦇💩🤡
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scottw 12-18-2019 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1182314)
It’s terrifying PeteF.
Get to your safe spot quickly.
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I find it amusing that pete and spence are actually referring to others as "nuts"...that's like "wingman" Holder calling Barr "nakedly partisan"...talk about a complete lack of self-awareness and disconnect from reality :doh:

Pete F. 12-18-2019 06:22 AM

With one simple move, Trump could wipe out both impeachment articles. By allowing Mulvaney, Pompeo and Bolton to testify, there would be no obstruction of Congress. And presumably, they could disprove abuse of power

So if he's truly innocent, ask yourself why he's not doing that
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scottw 12-18-2019 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182327)
With one simple move, Trump could wipe out both impeachment articles. By allowing Mulvaney, Pompeo and Bolton to testify, there would be no obstruction of Congress. And presumably, they could disprove abuse of power

So if he's truly innocent, ask yourself why he's not doing that
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there is no obstruction of congress...that is a false charge





Representative Jared Golden (D., Maine) distanced himself from the second article of impeachment, which charges Trump with obstructing Congress, because Democrats are not waiting for court decisions over whether the White House must comply with subpoenas.

scottw 12-18-2019 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182327)

So if he's truly innocent, ask yourself why he's not doing that

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because the best way to deal with folks as loathsome and deranged as the democrats is to not cooperate with them...they've demonstrated that they are criminally dishonest and cannot be trusted in ANYTHING...regardless of what the testimony may be the democrats and media will create an alternative narrative...it's just that simple...see you in court stupid :wave:...if it makes you feel better you can continue to believe it is an admission of guilt:huh:

RIROCKHOUND 12-18-2019 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1182329)
because the best way to deal with folks as loathsome and deranged as the democrats is to not cooperate with them...they've demonstrated that they are criminally dishonest and cannot be trusted in ANYTHING...regardless of what the testimony may be the democrats and media will create an alternative narrative...it's just that simple...see you in court stupid :wave:...if it makes you feel better you can continue to believe it is an admission of guilt:huh:

The sad fact is you can replace this with GOP instead of democrats and the rights ballwashing of Trump because of the fear of being primaries...
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scottw 12-18-2019 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1182331)

the rights ballwashing of Trump because of the fear of being primaries...

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:huh:

Pete F. 12-18-2019 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1182329)
because the best way to deal with folks as loathsome and deranged as the democrats is to not cooperate with them...they've demonstrated that they are criminally dishonest and cannot be trusted in ANYTHING...regardless of what the testimony may be the democrats and media will create an alternative narrative...it's just that simple...see you in court stupid :wave:...if it makes you feel better you can continue to believe it is an admission of guilt:huh:

With one simple move, Trump could wipe out both impeachment articles. By allowing Mulvaney, Pompeo and Bolton to testify, there would be no obstruction of Congress. And presumably, they could disprove abuse of power.
The problem is he’s guilty
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RIROCKHOUND 12-18-2019 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1182332)
:huh:

Auto correct....
Fear of being primaried.
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scottw 12-18-2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1182335)

Fear of being primaried.

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again..:huh:

scottw 12-18-2019 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1182334)

With one simple move, Trump could wipe out both impeachment articles. By allowing Mulvaney, Pompeo and Bolton to testify, there would be no obstruction of Congress. And presumably, they could disprove abuse of power.
The problem is he’s guilty
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this is dumb

RIROCKHOUND 12-18-2019 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1182340)
again..:huh:

So, you don't think that there is significant fear from Republicans in Congress to not go against Trump for fear of being challenged by a far-right candidate? They remain very fearful of losing the Trump faithful.

scottw 12-18-2019 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 1182346)
So, you don't think that there is significant fear from Republicans in Congress to not go against Trump for fear of being challenged by a far-right candidate? They remain very fearful of losing the Trump faithful.

no

RIROCKHOUND 12-18-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1182347)
no

Then we will agree to disagree on that.

Sea Dangles 12-18-2019 07:55 AM

Most of the Trump supporters are registered independent anyhow. They just appreciate the direction our wonderful country is heading and are disgusted by the way the left has abandoned their morals in pursuit of baseless charges.
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Got Stripers 12-18-2019 08:02 AM

I know that if Hillary had won and everything else played out exactly the same the right wouldn’t be using the term hoax or witch hunt, want to suggest you wouldn’t be pushing hard for removal, that should be an interesting argument. It’s politics I get it, but let’s not pretend what Trump and his band of bumbling lieutenants tried to pull off was perfectly acceptable and not in violation of the constitution. If it were Hillary I suspect impeachment may have commenced right after a similar mueller report.
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Sea Dangles 12-18-2019 08:07 AM

But....Hilary
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Got Stripers 12-18-2019 08:19 AM

I know when it comes down to short one liners or burgers you have no argument.
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scottw 12-18-2019 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182352)
I know that if Hillary had won and everything else played out exactly the same the right wouldn’t be using the term hoax or witch hunt, want to suggest you wouldn’t be pushing hard for removal, that should be an interesting argument. It’s politics I get it, but let’s not pretend what Trump and his band of bumbling lieutenants tried to pull off was perfectly acceptable and not in violation of the constitution. If it were Hillary I suspect impeachment may have commenced right after a similar mueller report.
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what are you babbling about now?

Sea Dangles 12-18-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1182355)
I know when it comes down to short one liners or burgers you have no argument.
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There is no relevant comeback for the gibberish you offer. Do you seriously expect a debate on your projection of “But Hilary”?
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spence 12-18-2019 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1182350)
Most of the Trump supporters are registered independent anyhow. They just appreciate the direction our wonderful country is heading and are disgusted by the way the left has abandoned their morals in pursuit of baseless charges.
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Said no pollster ever
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