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I didn’t know we had to be outraged “on a curve”
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It’s a good idea to consider the vital role of law enforcement in our society. It’s a terrible idea to lose the forest for the trees and think that “one way to do this” is to defund police and turn that into a movement. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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published 8 hours ago Seattle protesters declare 'cop free zone' after police leave precinct Seattle has been making big news in the last couple of days. The first major story emerged Tuesday when police ceded an entire neighborhood to Antifa and Black Lives Matter, representatives of which barricaded a large segment of the Capitol Hill neighborhood and declared the area an “autonomous” community, separate from Seattle itself. The second newsworthy story occurred when thousands of leftist protesters led by Black Lives Matter and Antifa entered City Hall shortly after midnight on Wednesday, demanding that Mayor Jenny Durkan (a Democrat) resign. On Tuesday, the police in Seattle’s Eastern District had initially battled with the rioters, using tear gas and flashbangs. Eventually, recognizing that anything short of a military-style defense was a waste of police time and put police lives at risk, the police abandoned the Eastern Precinct. They shredded important and confidential documents, boarded up the windows, and walked away, leaving the people whom they serve to the mob’s mercy. The mob set up barricades around the streets and announced a new independent community called the “Capitol Hill autonomous zone” or “Free Capitol Hill.” Because this is Seattle, residents of the city, rather than looking at the probably and imminent end of a comfortable life predicated on the smooth functioning of modern civil services (law enforcement, food delivery, garbage pick-ups, street cleaning, etc.), immediately donated huge amounts of food, water, and medical supplies to allow the anarchists to settle in for a long siege. https://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2...east-precinct/ |
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But keep spreading misinformation, maybe you could work for the Trump campaign. |
American democracy isn't pretty, is it?
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The weird part of all of this is that I feel the terms other than "defund the police" have been used for years before this and never got the response/reaction they are getting now. So maybe the reality is if people had listened in the past, words wouldn't be such a sticking point now. |
When one of the Bush family denounces “systemic racism” and Mitt Romney marches for Black Lives Matter, you know something fundamental has changed.
The tides of public opinion have shifted and that's leaving Trump* stranded on a shrinking “law and order” island. |
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This all being said, I believe there are some folks out there "in charge" of local municipalities who actually believe that a system-wide removal of law enforcement funding is what is being discussed, and are supportive of it. So the provocative nature of it is actually having a dual-edged effect. Again, that might just be a casualty of war, but it doesn;t help the dialog on this forum because it fuels opposing opinions with facts. |
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The City Council passed a resolution to focus on a community-based public safety system. President Lisa Bender, City Council Vice President Andrea Jenkins and other council members made the announcement at a rally Sunday afternoon, saying they plan to “dismantle” their police department. The money for the police will instead go towards a “community-based public safety model,” according to Reuters. this is going to be so much fun:D |
Well if you watch Fox and caught the interview with Eric Trump, you believers must be ready to shout the Trump favorite word, the virus is a Democrat HOAX. It will apparently all magically disappear after the November election. This is either the rotten crazy conspiracy loving bad apple falling not far from the family tree or Trump desperate and irresponsible campaign move to get his base out to vote. Either proves you just can’t cure stupid.
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It has already disappeared in NZ.
No Dems down there I guess. |
league leaders in deaths / million population U.S.
1591 New York 1439 New Jersey 1179 Connecticut 1109 Massachusetts 803 Rhode Island 730 DC 602 Michigan 650 Louisiana 499 Illinois 494 Pennsylvania |
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If you take the time or expend the effort to look into what the Minneapolis City council’s issues are with the police department you will discover that they want local control and can only achieve that by dissolving the current organization per the city charter.
Camden, NJ did it 8 years ago, things improved But just let the reich wing scare you, Tweety will save you Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
As spending on the police increased, federal aid to cities shrank for antipoverty programs and social services.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-growing.html When people say defund that is just some people , its not policy or supported by the public at large .. but people are seeing the dollars spent and not happy with the return , and whole heartedly want police to be better .. One guy on Foxs the 5 angry guy in a t shirt said only blacks should deal with blacks and the same whites .. the went into some the chances are 1 in how many he called it an error rate .. ,, he cover his ass by saying it was a dumb idea ... but hes another one who will swear up and down there is no racism in policing |
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I doubt many Police Agencies are over funded, particularly in urban areas. But the police are asked to do everything from basic law enforcement, to shrinks, anti-drug coaches, to being dads in areas that are thin on them. Yes, we need other people filling key roles in addition to the police but instead of the police. All these wackos pulling police / SROs OUT of schools? That is going to be a monumental mistake, good luck with that. |
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As U.S. Nursing-Home Deaths Reach 50,000, States Ease Lockdowns Facilities weigh coronavirus risk of allowing visitors against ills caused by prolonged isolation "Ezekiel Emanuel(chief architect of obamacare) questions “whether our consumption is worth our contribution” in old age." |
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