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The FBI used the Steele Dossier as verified probable cause--none of the Page allegations in the dossier had been validated by the FBI when they were presented to the FISA court as probable cause. It was a lie. The FBI withheld from the FISA court key details that would have undercut the dossier’s credibility, including a warning from a top Justice Department official that Steele may have been hired by someone associated with presidential candidate Clinton or the Democratic National Committee. The FBI also deceived the FISA court by wrongly claiming that Steele’s prior informant work had been “used in criminal proceedings” by the Justice Department. They supposedly "investigated" Page for a year, already being aware that he had helped them previously to convict Evgeny Buryakov in a conspiracy to work For Russian Intelligence. If they were actually "investigating" Page, it would have been easy to find that he had also helped the CIA vs Russia. FBI Director Christopher Wray agreed that the Justice Department and the FBI illegally surveilled Carter Page. The FBI, the brilliant Sherlockians they're reputed to be, undoubtedly knew they had no probable cause for surveilling Page and had to fudge there FISA requests to get their warrants. Unless they were particularly dense in their supposed "investigation" of Carter Page, it wouldn't have taken them a year to find that his connections to Russia were legitimate, and that he was no Russian agent. But they could sure use Carter's association with Trump to secretly surveil the Trump Campaign. One would think that those concerned with saving "our democracy" would fear that these kind of deep state shenanigans are a threat to it. |
A sprawling report released in 2020 by a Republican-controlled Senate panel that spent three years investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election laid out an extensive web of contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Kremlin officials and other Russians, including at least one intelligence officer and others tied to the country’s spy services.
The report by the Senate Intelligence Committee, totaling nearly 1,000 pages, drew to a close one of the highest-profile congressional investigations in recent memory and could be the last word from an official government inquiry about the expansive Russian campaign to sabotage the 2016 election. It provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government disrupted an American election to help Mr. Trump become president, Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated, and some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary. So there were plenty of reasons to investigate the Trump campaign and just why did Trump pardon Manafort who had millions of dollars in debt forgiven by a Russian Oligarch when he became Trump campaign manager Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
The FBI lied and misrepresented in order to surveil Carter Page. Carter Page was illegally surveilled. That is not innuendo. That is not conjecture. That is not speculation. That is not propaganda. That is not political posturing. That is not partisan bull$hit. It is the truth.
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there were plenty of reasons to investigate the Trump campaign and just why did Trump pardon Manafort who had millions of dollars in debt forgiven by a Russian Oligarch when he became Trump campaign manager
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pete still holding strong to the fairly tale he was sold and continues to read to himself before bed each night.....:read: and mean old orange man went to jail for ever and ever...THE END :happy:
Andy McCarthy has been pretty consistent on this and sums up things...hope they don't find any Democratic Party operative that magically suicides themselves "Justice Department special counsel John Durham has indicted Igor Danchenko, the principal sub-source for the discredited “Steele dossier,” which was relied on by the FBI to obtain surveillance warrants in its investigation of the 2016 Trump campaign. Durham alleges that Danchenko falsely denied to the FBI that some of the information he supplied for the dossier came from a long-time Democratic Party operative who is not identified by name in the indictment. Moreover, Danchenko is also alleged to have falsely claimed that he had been told of a well-developed “conspiracy of cooperation” between the Trump campaign and Kremlin officials by a man identified in the indictment as president of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce. In Ball of Collusion, my 2019 book on the Trump-Russia collusion narrative, I summarized media reports fingering Sergey Millian, who founded this portentous-sounding but sketchy “Chamber.” I pointed out that Millian did not appear to have the kind of relationship with Donald Trump that he would know of such a “conspiracy of cooperation” if it were true, and that Steele himself had confided in friends that he worried Millian was an unreliable “big talker.” If Durham’s allegations are borne out, it would mean that Millian was not talking at all — at least on this subject. Danchenko was making it up, according to the indictment. Filed today in federal court in the Eastern District of Virginia, the indictment charges Danchenko with five counts of lying to federal investigators — specifically in several 2017 interviews by the FBI. Each charge carries a potential term of up to five years’ imprisonment. Danchenko is a U.S.-based Russian national who, among other things, worked for the Brookings Institution in Washington. In particular, he worked at Brookings with foreign-relations and national-security expert Fiona Hill — who later worked in President Trump’s National Security Council and, coincidentally, was a key witness in the first Trump impeachment (related to the Ukraine controversy, which was unrelated to the Trump/Russia “collusion” investigation). As the Free Beacon’s Chuck Ross observes, it was Hill who introduced Danchenko to Christopher Steele, the former British spy who was retained by the Hillary Clinton campaign to generate the Steele dossier. The campaign was represented by the Perkins-Coie law firm, which retained Fusion-GPS, an intelligence firm that specializes in political-opposition research. Fusion’s co-founder, Glenn Simpson, recruited Steele for the Clinton campaign’s Trump-Russia research project. Steele got much of the information from Danchenko, with whom he had a preexisting professional relationship (through Steele’s London-based intelligence firm, Orbis). As I’ve previously detailed, Durham appears to be operating from the premise that the Trump-Russia narrative, in which Trump was framed as a clandestine agent of Vladimir Putin’s regime, was manufactured by the Clinton campaign, which generated the dossier and peddled its information to the media and the government. This enabled the campaign to argue to the electorate not only that Trump was a Putin puppet but that the FBI was investigating him over it. In September, Durham indicted Perkins-Coie partner Michael Sussmann for allegedly lying to the FBI in connection with an allegation that a major Russian financial institution, Alfa Bank, was a conduit for covert Internet communications between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign. Specifically, Durham alleges that Sussmann falsely told the FBI’s general counsel that he was not representing any client in bringing Alfa Bank information to the FBI; in reality, according to the indictment, he was working for the Clinton campaign and for a tech executive who was expecting a job in the anticipated Clinton administration. Sussmann resigned from Perkins-Coie after he was indicted. His case is separate from Danchenko’s — they are indicted in the same investigation, but they are not co-defendants. For the next few days, expect the new Washington parlor game to be identifying the Democratic Party operative who was allegedly a source for Danchenko’s dossier claims. The indictment alleges that “PR Executive-1” had strong Russian contacts — organizing events in Moscow and interacting with Russian nationals." |
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And down in that rabbit hole.........
Manafort and Gates being convicted of numerous white collar felonies, many tied to Russian proxies, was not a fraud. Flynn, Stone and Coffee Boy being convicted of perjury was not a fraud. Trump conspiring to suborn perjury was not a fraud. |
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So is that all supposed to make it OK for the FBI to get an illegal warrant on Carter Page. Should all those involved in getting that warrant be convicted of a crime? Do you approve of what the FBI did? Do you think it is a danger to "our democracy" when the FBI commits such crimes? |
So your concern is that of the Carter Page FISA apps half were within the rules, half were not.
Guess you’re finding out that it’s pretty hard to charge a police officer with a crime in the USA since they could have believed the search constitutionally compliant. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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DOJ said the final two warrants were invalid. At the time they made that claim they had not made a determination on the validity of the first two, so they were not saying they were valid. And even if the DOJ had eventually determined that the first two warrants were valid, the surveillance on Page should have stopped with the last two invalid applications. My concern, as you put it, is that lying criminals within the FBI should at least face the same consequences as those who lie to the FBI. Actually, lying FBI criminals should face even harsher penalties. Their actions put "our democracy" in greater danger than common criminals who lie to the FBI. Actually, even greater danger than the uncommon criminals who lie to the FBI. If we the people don't demand that the FBI, as well as all government agencies, stay within the rules that we bind them, then we grant them a pass to step all over our rights and lead us into a banana republic "democracy"--or worse. |
Facts: The FBI’s surveillance was conducted after Page stopped working for the campaign. The OIG review found that certain factual assertions relied upon in the FISA applications were inaccurate, incomplete, or unsupported by appropriate documentation, based upon information the FBI had in its possession at the time the application was filed, and the review uncovered unprofessional conduct by a low-level FBI lawyer. However, the DOJ did not determine that leadership or the FISA court would have reached a different decision had they known all relevant information, and did not find that the conduct affected the overall validity of the applications.
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Under questioning from Republican Rep. John Ratcliffe of Texas, Wray, who deflected many questions by referring lawmakers back to Horowitz’s report, agreed that Page was surveilled illegally.
“The report acknowledges that ... this was illegal surveillance with respect to at least several of these FISA applications, because there was not probable cause or proper predication, correct?” Ratcliffe asked. “Right,” Wray replied. Ratcliffe was referring to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court revelation that, in the wake of Horowitz’s report, the DOJ told the FISA court it believed the final two Page FISA warrants were invalid but were still reviewing the first two. The FBI also told the court it was trying to sequester all the information obtained through the Page FISA warrants. Judge James Boasberg, the FISA court’s presiding judge, quoted the DOJ as saying that by the third and fourth warrants against Page, “if not earlier, there was insufficient predication to establish probable cause to believe that [Carter] Page was acting as an agent of a foreign power.” Boasberg said that “the Court understands the government to have concluded, in view of the material misstatements and omissions, that the Court's authorizations” related to the April 2017 and June 2017 Page FISA renewals “were not valid.” Thus far, the DOJ has not reached a public decision on the initial October 2016 FISA application or the January 2017 renewal. |
Lots of verbiage doesn’t change this
the DOJ did not determine that leadership or the FISA court would have reached a different decision had they known all relevant information, and did not find that the conduct affected the overall validity of the applications. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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i think we should look at everyone who’s in prison. if they are a registered democrats, we should set them free, because it’s not possible they did anything wrong.
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Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was convicted in 2018 on federal bank and tax fraud charges, pleaded guilty to more federal conspiracy charges, and was sentenced to seven and a half years in federal prison. Trump granted Manafort a full pardon in December 2020. Former campaign chief Steve Bannon was charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering in connection with a scheme to defraud donors to fund a wall at the US southern border. Trump pardoned Bannon in January 2021 before he could face trial. Informal Trump adviser and "fixer" Roger Stone was convicted on seven counts on obstruction, making false statements, and witness tampering in connection to the Mueller probe and was sentenced to three years in prison. Trump commuted Stone's sentence in July 2020 and fully pardoned him in December 2020. Deputy Trump campaign manager Rick Gates, a longtime top associate of Manafort, pleaded guilty to two counts of conspiracy and false statements and received only a 45-day sentence thanks to his extensive cooperation with investigators in the Mueller probe. He did not get a presidential pardon. Trump's short-lived National Security Adviser Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the FBI in connection with the Mueller probe. Flynn, who went on to push conspiracy theories about non-existent fraud in the 2020 election, received a full pardon from Trump in November 2020. Longtime Trump personal attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to tax fraud, bank fraud, campaign finance violations, and lying to Congress in 2018, and was sentenced to three years in federal prison. Cohen, who turned on Trump after pleading guilty and cooperated with prosecutors, did not get a pardon. Trump campaign foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI in connection to the Mueller probe and served 14 days in federal prison. Trump Inaugural Committee chairman Tom Barrack was charged with federal crimes including unlawful lobbying, obstruction of justice, and making false statements to investigators in July 2021. |
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After years he has come up with a couple of indictments focused on peripheral characters flubbing details that would not have altered the main focus of the Russia investigation. Congress referred two of Trump’s sons, his top political adviser, one of his top national security advisers, and one of his top campaign officials to DOJ for criminal prosecution for perjury and making false statements under 18 USC §1001. And the DOJ? Under Trump Attorney General Bill Barr’s watchful eye, ignored all of these referrals. Congress had evidence that Hope Hicks, Trump’s closest aide, had also lied. There was evidence of lies from Trump lawyer Michael Cohen—who later revealed he’d been instructed to lie by Trump lawyers—and even Trump himself, who gave written answers to Mueller. The DOJ did nothing. When the DOJ did act, longtime Trump friend and adviser Roger Stone received major criminal convictions—which Trump immediately annulled via commutation and pardon. Convictions for lying by 2016 Trump campaign manager and thirty-year acquaintance Paul Manafort—who was under contract with a Kremlin agent to advance Vladimir Putin’s interests in the U.S. when he secretly delivered proprietary targeting data to Russian intelligence during the 2016 campaign? These too were soon obliterated by a Trump pardon. Did Jared Kushner need some rewarding for lying to Congress and Mueller on his father-in-law’s behalf? Sure he did—so Trump pardoned Kushner’s dad, Charles. All the while the Trump DOJ sat by, lied to by everyone in the Trump's entourage and without any consequence whatsoever. It took no action to protect the rule of law. But there was one exception to all of this prosecutorial ignorance, with Trump breathing down Barr’s neck he installed Durham as a Special Counsel to hold Trump’s enemies to account in a way that no ally of Trump ever had been. |
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I’m patient Paul Gosar’s sister is on CNN right now begging elected leaders to remove her brother from Congress “He has conspired against the United States government.” - Jennifer Gosar Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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But, alas, the wheels of justice grind slowly . . . Trump . . . . . . . Trump . . . . Meanwhile, the world moves on, tending in its usual inefficient, corrupt, plodding, lurching, criminal, basically imperfect and often disgusting but sometimes pleasant, loving, or even brilliant human way. But, not to be distracted by marginal human events, wondrously implacable one note Pete must keep reminding us, lest we forget, to keep our eye on the real prize--the extermination of the root of all evil . . . Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump! |
And unwittingly or not, you work to enable the man who would be king
“Presidents are not kings, and Plaintiff is not President,” Judge Tanya Chutkan wrote in her November 9 ruling properly rejecting Trump’s baseless claims of executive privilege. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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