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steve 07-14-2006 05:47 AM

John R-- I guess I have to get used to your " sense of humor".

JohnR 07-14-2006 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by steve
John R-- I guess I have to get used to your " sense of humor".

Specifically, that was for the benefit of some of the lawyers we have on this site. So yeh, I guess you missed that. Unfortunately it happens often that when people type something out it is not well enough written or understood that the point is taken incorrectly. Sometimes this ends up in pi$$in contests as both sides get their backs up and dig in over a misunderstanding.

numbskull 07-14-2006 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by steve
In our system of justice, EVERYONE is innocent until proven otherwise. Let's give Mr. Major his day in court before all of us hang him. By the way John R, there are alot of honest, great lawyers out there. Get in trouble sometime and see how quickly your opinion changes towards these professionals.

Actually, in our justice system questions of innocence, right, and wrong take a back seat to the smooth working of the system itself (in all but the most serious crimes). This case is small potatoes as far as the judicial system is concerned, the court will not consider it worth much effort, and Mr Major's lawyer undoubtably knows that and will use it to Mr Major's advantage to obtain a small settlement (likely easily covered by the fish he has "miscued"), deferred charges, and likely no loss of his license (after all, your Honor, this poor man's livlihood is at stake....think of his family). At the end of the day, the lawyer's fees will prove the major punishment to Mr Major and Mr Major can go back to abusing the resource he, and the rest of us, "live for".

steve 07-14-2006 06:15 AM

John R-- now you sound like a lawyer- just tongue and in cheek.

striprman 07-14-2006 06:39 AM

Unregistered boat ?:jump: :bounce: :jester: :uhoh: :eek: :tooth: :fishslap: :rotf2: :happy: :poke: :err: :laugha: :shocked: :behead:

Bronko 07-14-2006 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR
I can't give you the benefit of the doubt as I don't know you nor can I - at this time - villafy you without knowing more of what is going on (yet). As for "miscue", if you are such a live for stripers kind of guy that you state then you surely know what the rules are. I've made a handful of "miscues" in the past when young and dumb but not since learning the rules and becoming old and dumb.

But don't listen to an attorney on this, there are no good attorneys ('cept for those angling brethern here on S-B that are lawyahs).


I took it as a joke JohnR... :jump:

But its nice to see Stevie VS looking out for us!:)

vineyardblues 07-14-2006 07:19 AM

First off I must say that I was one of them guys who traveled up and down the coast fishing derby's for cash $$ Cape Charles Va was drum fishing Chesapeake Bay was Blue fish etc etc etc

A quick true story about people who cheat!
We were at the solamon island check point for a 3 day bluefish derby.
Slow as hell and no big fish on the board. as I remember I think a 7lber was in first place with 1/2 hr left. A new boat pulls up and a guy with 2 young boys lug a huge cooler up and pulls out a blue that was a good 10 lbs easy.

They weight it up and it's 11 1/2 lbs,,,, WAY in front as a leader. Until
they grab it by the tail and tiny little ice cubes start falling out of it's mouth. They now take a small pointed item up the old arse to get a reading :D next the old knife comes out and they cut it open only to find tiny ,tiny ice cubes full to the brim. We had the camara going for the whole event ,the crowd went a little crazy the kids started crying dad was a big loser. And to think he would have won with out cheating :bc:

NIB 07-14-2006 07:22 AM

Thats funny cause someone says lawyer an jokes are what comes to my mind.Like the one...
Ahhh nevermind.:D

Swimmer 07-14-2006 12:20 PM

Recreational fishermen 15 to 1 underdogs
 
If your fishing on a boat where thier is a commercial license available the captain has 30 fish to choose from to weigh in for the Striper Cup Derby. Thats obscene. I mate on a boat this time of year and would have the same opportunity, but have decided not too, because it is simply not fair. It is unethical and immoral at best. At worst ..........Mr. Major isn't the only person in this situation. It simply isn't appropriate that a fisherman who doesn't possess a commercial license is a fifteen to one underdog even before he leaves his driveway or mooring. I'm sure this fellow is a good guy and he is innocent until someone says otherwise. With the thousand of commercial fishing licenses issued there is the potential for this tournament ending before it really has a chance to begin/mature.

Sweetwater 07-14-2006 03:27 PM

I say everyone is innocent until proven guilty -- at least in a court of law. Luckily posters here don't have any constraint to assume guilt first....human perogative.

Some people like their fish fried, some baked, some poached :hihi:

LINESIDES 07-14-2006 06:47 PM

We will have to see what the out come will be on this. If it is true, this is how I see this situation. This issue for me is this! He is in question on all the entries now. He didn’t just decide to commit this crime today and they caught him, if he is guilty, he more than likely has been doing this sort of thing on a regular basis. What are the odds that he commits this crime and on that day they catch him? The odds are off the chart. It’s like hitting the lottery. Folks are saying wow the accomplishment of taking two fish over 50 pounds is incredible. He clearly knows what he is doing, I will give him that much, or he would not be taking such nice fish. However it is a well known by people in the know and I think it was actually reported in fishing Magazine, I won’t mention, that there were 50 and 60 pound fish off shore. I won’t say where, and was claming they would be coming in soon. It’s completely possible that these fish were taken out side the three mile limit. I am not saying that they were, however it brings into question all of his catches. If he is found guilty, he should loose his commercial license and be pulled from the tournament, including his catches. Cheating is cheating. That’s my thoughts any way. I won’t fish the fish off shore because I do not want to get caught, so I don’t do it. Those that do cheat need to be set as an example.

tper 07-17-2006 07:50 AM

any news
 
Anyone hear what happened to him?


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