No one has countered the fact that Vick is a great runner because......well, he is a great runner. In fact, I'll even go so far as to say he is a great athlete. But, I will stick to the argument that he is not even a good QB. He is closer to the bottom than the top in stats that measure how good a QB is. And no, being able to run is not one of them. Would you agree that being good would mean that you have to be in the top half of QB's in the league? If so, Vick is in the bottom half of the league in all meaningful QB stats. He was #24 in completions last year, #20 in passer rating, #31 in completion percentage, #22 in yards per attempt, 16th in INT's, and was the 6th most sacked QB in the league. The only stat where he ranked in the top half of QB's was TD passes thrown where he was ranked #10.

NOW FOR THE BEST PART:

No matter what system is used, a large part of a quarterback's success is related to the talent around him. A poorly thrown pass can be overcome with a great catch, and the perfect pass can be dropped. The offensive line also has quite a lot to do with the quarterback's success.

You are a Vick Fan!
No Idea what Cloud you are in.
You mention all the non-profit organizations...PLEASE...The guy has Millions of $$$. Pay taxes or start a non-profit and make yourself look like someone who cares.
Scum Bag is what Vick will ever be in my mind.
You Said...."What a shame, now that he fights dogs, they won't even let him give back to the community"...He just didn't fight dogs, he tourtured them, hung them, picked them up and slammed them to the floor, his idiot friends did no better. Shocking dogs to death.
You want this Jerk off to have ties to the community?
What a role model to the Boys and Girls club.

Being such a Vick fan, maybe you can answer this.
Last year Vick gave the finger to HIS OWN fans.
My question is, Atlanta fans hated Vick after that game. Some didn't care, but many wanted him gone. Why did the Falcons keep him?
Did the Falcons have too much money invested in him?
Thought maybe you might know.

I'm gonna leave the peanuts to the New Hampshire residents. What sports team do you guys have. Keep riding....

oh and to the Burlington Police who are so concerned about the post count....get some visibility. Where the hell is Burlington anyway....Vermont. What the hell are you doing on a Striped Bass fishing website. Aren't you guys planning your succession from the union.

The fact that he accepted this role as a Spokesperson for B&G Clubs means he also accepted the responsibilty of being a role model for the Youth.....and at that he failed miserably. You don't put your face on an organization like that and behave the way he has.


Big Whooped-di-do.......he made that on one Dog Fight

Maybe using a "revised" QB ranking Vick may rise from mediocore to good. But as it stands he continues to be in the lower percentile of NFL QB performance.

Manchester Monarchs-LA Kings
Manchester Wolves-Pro indoor FB Team
Nashua Pride-Can-Am League
NH Fisher Cats- Tor. Bluejays
NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS!!!!
They almost found a home in New Hampshire, but Foxboro put up one hell of a fight to keep the team in Foxboro....where else can you pay $30.00 to park.
Some would call Motorsports a Sport...I do.
That would leave Lee USA Speedway
New England Dragway-IHRA sanctioned track
New Hampshire International Speedway-SCCA, CART, and I am sure you have heard of NASCAR! There are also the Busch Tour, ACT Tour and many others that frequent the Track.
Do you ski? MANY Mountains for that...you've heard of Bode Miller.
Don't ever forget that Mass. alone could not afford to run Boston Red Sox, Boston Bruins, Boston Celtics and the New England Patriots
without the money from Maine, NH, VT, RI and Conn. FANS!!!

"What sports team do you guys have. Keep riding...."
What a stupid statement to make...

Anyone see the news tonight?
NFL Commision is sick to their stomachs...actual quote
Atlanta has the most pet owners of any other city in the US.
Fans are Stunned!
Way To Go Vick....Hey don't worry you still have a Fan in Cambridge, MA...he knows more about you then you do yourself.

Dude,
You have got some issues !!!:smash: :uhoh: :nopain:

Michael Vick is a piece of $&^T
 

F^%$ his skills...
F(*& his ability...

He is a waste of skin. Plain an simple As the past and present owner of pit bulls I wish nothing less on him than he should be gang raped in a prison somewhere. And then let the real fun begin.

Who said atheletes are supposed to be perfect role models? Most have skeletons in their closet but this assh0le showed his to the whole world. Nobody here really gives a damn if he can throw a ball or run or whatever, he is as stated before " a waste of skin" and gang raping him in prison would be too good for the likes of him. He should be treated like he did the dogs, first tie him up and "roll" him with a pitbull and see how he does, then when he's found out to be a loser well then maybe Peace should slam him to the ground, shoot him a few times and then electrocute him for being a loser.

This thread started out as an animal cruelty thread and then got sidetracked into a sports thread, well that's one way to take the light off the topic and redirect it to make him look good (maybe to you ES44) but I don't follow pro sports like a groupie and could care less about his stats in this forum, keep the sports talk in the sports forum where it belongs. He is a loser for what he did with the dogs period! And he deserves everything he's got coming to him along with his jerk*ff friends.

Yep, it's gotta be the Vick guy from EEI :rollem:

Vick is DONE in the NFL !!!
Atlanta wanted to cut him, but the league made them hold off!
Interesting interview Dennis & Callahan had with a lawyer on this morning !

Looks like Vick thinks he is the Teflon Don with 2 of his buddies pleading guilty.

Does he really think he can scramble out of this one now?

With the squealing going, on his arse will be grass.

A real humanitarian. :realmad:

He probaly paid his loser friends a cool Mill each, in hopes they will take the heat and he will go free...could happen...But I hope he frys.

Me too, but i read today where his lawyers are in the middle of a plea deal

trying to get him off with less than a year. :(

Vick is going to jail and is done in the NFL !
The guys rolling over on him are going to get 1-2 years,
Vick will get more !

Radio said today that he is pleading Guilty.
The World will know in about a week what he gets from the Judge.
Radio also said that it looks like he will get a year at most.
I can only hope that the NFL will ban him from the game.

Part of his plea deal could include rolling over on some of the NFL players --gambling accusations.

Madden and Michaels said he wouldn't as he's too loyal, pfft- we'll see if comes to saving his own arse. Garbage, either way.

If the commisioner doesn't ban him for life he deserves to go to jail with him.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2984915
Hows your bud Vick looking to you now
:hang:

"Michael is a human being," Crumpler said. "People have been trying to dehumanize him. But he's hurting. I know that. Believe me, he's hurting."

Yeah, he's hurting. How 'bout electrocuting him, or better yet drowning him since he FAILED the test of being a human being in my book...

Only seems fair.

"He's hurting"
Ya, thinking about how many millions $$$ he threw away !

They're already fitting a #7 Raiders uniform for his 2010 return to the NFL.

If I were in charge , this guy never plays pro ball again. No rule or official banning , just everyone agreeing they don't want anything to do with a person like that and simply don't sign him.

let him go out and work "Like a dog" the rest of his life instead of getting millions to play a game.

I cannot see how any owner could explain to his fans why they would allow this guy on the payroll.

Ya, couldn't you tell he was hurting by the expression on his face as he went to court. :rolleyes:

Then Upshaw trys to soften things by saying, "he's young."
Come on the guy is 27 years old. :fishslap:

Ya Crumpler, we are all human beings, none of us are perfect, but Upshaw, a 5 year old would know what he was doing was wrong.

He probably will get a lifetime ban from the NFL. It will be for gambling, not committing crimes against animals, though. The NFL has rules prohibiting gambling, but nothing about the crimes he committed. They might be able to invoke the personal conduct rule, which I would imagine is pretty vague. There are plenty of convicted felons in the league. But, the illegal gambling is a big no no in the NFL and that would be easier to get a lifetime ban with.

My two cents...

While Vick is a pathetic and terrible creature, he for the most part has a fantastic wardrobe and sense of style.

-spence

What's his playoff record? How many Super Bowl Rings? He's scum and should be banned from the league.

Let's hope the new Commish makes a statement and example here. Whatever he does will set the tone for how his tenure as commish will go. Tough situation for him to be in for his 1st year but he should ban him forever. Let him play in Canada or the WWF.

One news show said that the reason he'll plead guilty is because the feds were going to bring RICO charges and shoot for 20 years.

RICO - good job Mike. Way to have your chit together.

Also, the state of Virginia has yet to file charges, this is all Federal so far. That's what the show said anyway.

Vick's losses to reach $100 million?
Posted: Wednesday August 22, 2007 07:56AM ET
The bill for Michael Vick's role in illegal dogfighting could reach a staggering $100 million in lost future salary, potential repayment of bonuses demanded by the Falcons for defaulting on his contract and endorsement money that is drying up. The grand total for Vick's potential financial losses: $71 million in base salary, as much as $25 million in bonus repayment, depending on the interpretation of roster bonuses in the new collective bargaining agreement and $3 million-$5 million per year in endorsements.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

F'ng loser...

[QUOTE= $3 million-$5 million per year in endorsements.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

F'ng loser...[/QUOTE]


It's got to be way more than that per year.

It's only pre/season, but Joey Harrington is looking very good.
Much better than Vick pre or regular season !

I was surprised the Falcons didn't get rid of him. Might be a NFL thing.
Hey, He did find Jesus...

I think its a "We have to get some money back from him 1st" thing.


Didn't know he was missing :D