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Originally Posted by BassDawg (Post 624726)

for MANY surfcasters,,,,,,,,,,,
competitive fishing is the very definition of:

Well,
thats why I dont fish with guys like that BD.
My 'circle of trust' is small, and consists of guys more interested in the pursuit than the cup or any other tourney.

that's cool, Bryan...........

point well taken, and it will prolly take me
several more years, God Willing, to arrive

at the Zen side of our pursuit, although~~

i DO get it, and i DO love the chase. i guess
i'm just NOT embracing the genteel side, quite yet,

*which COULD explain many of my monstah mishaps!!*
:bl: :bl: :bl:

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 624733)

Well,
thats why I dont fish with guys like that BD.
My 'circle of trust' is small, and consists of guys more interested in the pursuit than the cup or any other tourney.

Well, from what I hear from Jake and Elwood Jude lately, you do a lot of pursuin', Bry :rotflmao:

Gotta be a blood feud goin' on here - I guess they took umbrage at something or other...:hihi:

This is interesting to say the least. I have to tread lightly here with my comments. I've never been a fan of this tourney but to their credit OTW has tried to improve it over the years. For the first time this season I just checked the club standings. I'm somewhat surprised that a few of my home fishing club members(and some past members) are also members of the team in question. Not that THEY did anything wrong... but as a club president I'm somewhat concerned when my fellow members are (albeit only by association) on a "team" involved in controversy. I've dealt with my share of controversies - nothing good comes from them and if they are substantiated it reflects poorly on a "recreational" organization.

DZ

[QUOTE=BassDawg;624398]i have to wholeheartedly, and with much RESPECT, disagree!!

there is NO TAINT to Team Striper's WIN!!

one guy cheated, HE was removed from their totals,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
LEGITIMATE points were/will replace the illegitimate ones
and we and The Cup moves on. QUOTE]

You and I are actually agreeing. please read my post again. If you misinterpreted my words than I am sorry I wasnt clear enough. I DO think their win should stand as long as their next biggest LEGAL fish still puts them in #1 spot. And I never said they all cheated just because one person did. when I said they would be "guilty by association and rumors" it was because some stated already that other team members may have been aware of the cheating......is that not assuming guilt by association or rumor?

Personally I have witnessed cheating in the past in tournaments and so my opinion has been formed that there is always the POSSIBILITY for cheating in any tournament.Therefore thats why I dont believe in them. It is sad, yes. They should be fun but I have seen it turn to this one too many times and just cant stomach it. Is it really worth it?

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Originally Posted by BassDawg (Post 624394)

OOOOOO, basswipe!
i'm skeeeered now too!!
NOT!!!

have your opinion, no prob,,,,,,,,,,,,,:smash: :smash:

but to state that NOW everyone else should follow your position is somehwat grandiose, doan ya think? perhaps you didn't enter cuz you don't do so well when pitted against other high hookers? or, is the deadline thing too much pressh for ya? or, simply you don't like meat tourneys?

whichever, or for whatever reason, state it for what it is~~
but, to blame OTW and its signature event, or to just universally condemn tournament fishing sounds like someone with an axe to grind and it is not related to the case, in point, here! what's wrong bw, did they not deliver a coupla issues last year?
:wavey: :wavey: :wavey:

for me, the Striper Cup was a BLAST!!
i thought that it was very well run ~considering the scope and magnitude of such a HUGE event. LOVED the Team competition and the added excitement that comes with following the totals board, seeing who's won for which week, and checking for the angler of the year race ~~which was a tight one this season and very inspiring!! the added bonus is the big shindig that gets thrown next weekend on tha Hahbah to commemorate this 2008 Season, the HIGHS and the LOWS!!!
:jump: :jump: :jump:

something tells me that the POSITIVES of this Year's Striper Cup
will far, faaaaar OUTWEIGH the negatives or the misgivings of the FEW:heybaby: :heybaby: :heybaby:

Huh?

Don't lay into me Dawg.That is my opinion.

Competative tournaments breed sh!thouse attitudes just like yours.I guess my opinion just don't count ,which is one that would rather fish for charity than personal profit.The effing prize don't mean sh!t,those that are helped mean everything.

PS Dawg where the FVck in my post did I state this:
"well, if WE follow that irrational, then we should ALL withdraw because of the alleged illegal actions of one LOSER!??!

ya gotta be sheeeting me, MAN!one guy efff's up and NOW the whole Tourney is suspect, tainted,
not worthy of basswipe's participation. who gives a rat's arse??"

I never mentioned the aformentioned violator anywhere in my post.I'm curious Dawg as to how you interpreted that I even had an opinion on the accused or the team he was involved in.Please explain.My only statement was is that I don't fish the type of tournament that this guy/team were involved in because IMO they suck.

News flash:USA=IMO.Deal.

So,according to you Dawg,fishing for charity must be lame.Did I interpret your opinion wrong?Probably not but that's how i see it.

Read between the quotes Dawg and then look at the studity(size) of this thread.

My opinion is valid and I'll damn well stand by it,I EARNED that right.You don't like it...then move on and don't reply dammit!

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 624481)

Bassdawg....I think basswipe was just saying that this ain't his cup of tea....don't think he meant we all needed to stop participating.

Exactly.

Can't understand why Dawg took such offense.

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Originally Posted by DZ (Post 624755)

To be honest Dennis, I'm somewhat surprised to see you go down this road. Not only are you aware Sean is not a member of the club but there is also the fact that your implications may rub some of the members the wrong way. Perhaps this is a subject that would be better discussed at a meeting or in a newsletter. I would guess there are some folks you are associated with that have made poor decisions in the past. If you decided to abandon them as a result of poor judgement so be it. I can't see a personal friend of the accused turning their back on him as a result of the allegations. Nor do I anticipate a member sponsoring Sean for membership. I would venture to guess no one would have even put the pieces together unless you had brought it up. If you are afraid of tarnishing the reputation of the Newport Club perhaps more discretion would be advised.
Chris Daniels

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Originally Posted by bloocrab (Post 624659)

I've put teams together before, not for fishing tourneys but for other sport activities. In putting those teams together, each individual is chosen based on his honesty first, talent 2nd. To me, to win dishonestly, is NOT winning...period. I believe a team-mate is a reflection of the team and the team a reflection of it's members. I believe Team Striper SHOULD remove itself completely based on their poor decision in picking their players or allowing people to join.

I agree 100% with this. Thing is, I wouldn't want to be the team that wins when the other team is DQ'ed. I believe in honest play, and I want to win honestly, I don't want to win because the team that beat me cheated to win. I worked my ass of this year to weigh somthing in, it didn't happen. But I didn't borrow a fish from my brother, or weigh in a charter caught fish -- both things I could have done.

Cheaters will always cheat, and there will never be a 100% honest tournament, there never has and there never will. It is sad, but these things will happen, you only hope it isn't somone on your side bringing you down.

For the love of Christ, would somebody euthanize this %$%$%$%$ing thread :hs:

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Originally Posted by Crafty Angler (Post 624896)

For the love of Christ, would somebody euthanize this %$%$%$%$ing thread :hs:

Hehehehe - good idea. Closed and going away....