Hey Ken
 

Sorry for getting all up your grill. Like I said, I get all crazy and judgemental at times.

If you wouldn't mind keeping us in the loop, there's a lot of us who would again like to know what's going on with the winter fishery off of VA and NC.

Be safe,
Jon

Go ask him again and try to listen to what he says, not to what you want to hear.

If you think they put 40lb fish in blenders to get a 1 gram flesh sample (as apparently you do!) you are indeed clueless.

What I suspect they do is cut a small flesh sample from each fish rack and send it to a lab that then grinds the sample (not the whole fish!), weighs it, then runs their analysis on it.

Anything else would require very large blenders and very large shipping costs, for no scientific reason whatsoever, and I do not believe on your authority that this happens.

I think there is a very distinct difference between fishing legally and fishing responsibly. So what if you're following the law, that doesn't necessarily make what you're doing right. Cowhunter is obviously very proficient at catching large. I think with that comes more responsibility. Pounding away at big fish throughout the whole year can't be good for the fishery. It's just common sense. If you keep removing big fish from the ocean, eventually there won't be any big fish to remove. How many people have been saying that the past few years are showing the same trends as the years leading up to the last crash? These warning signs seem to fall on deaf ears though. The type of mentality that exists up here would never fly down south, say in Florida and look at how their fishery is flourishing...

And BigFish, who are you to call people ass holes and tell them to get off their high horses? You're one of the most opinionated people on here and are constantly bitching and ranting about something. Honestly i'm surprised you don't take more of the conservationist approach seeing as how you couldn't seem to buy a fish over thirty inches this fall...

I was just doing my part for conservation this fall Bart! :rotf2:But seriously its good to hear from my fans! :rotf2:

I stand behind my comments Bart......am I opinionated? Sure am but who on here isn't? At least I have respect for other peoples opinions and other peoples rights to fish as they like as long as its legal and I don't sit on here bashing people for it as others do! Don't ever worry about my fishing Bart......I may go through slumps on occasion.....but I always get mine!:) Hey......have your people call my people.....lets do lunch!:jump1:

What U suspect?? I know the answer... You obviously want the answer what YOU think it should be. I pay attention to every detail. I just talked to him 3 days ago after he weighed and measured my fish for studies. They take the fish in its ENTIRETY and grind it up and then they may take a 1 gram or so sample out of it,, (I did not ask what the exact amount was), I know its not what you want to hear.... how dare they right?
You think everyone just tosses the rack of a bass? Many people, restaurants dont just fillet a fish and toss the rack in the trash. They use every bit of that fish, belly meat? Fish head soup? Smoked cheeks? People even eat the skin...Who are you kidding? You should send them a letter or maybe call them and tell them what you think should be the proper way to obtain these samples.. What parts of the fish they should pick and choose, and where these toxins, pcb's are greatest in a striped bass... Also lecture them that they dont have big enough blenders???

You are SOOOO WRONG

i'm more of a dinner and drinks type of guy :love:

Too funny Bart!:love: :rotf2:

Perhaps, wouldn't surprise me in the least, I often am. I can check easy enough and will let you know.

But you, my loud friend, are also are wrong. Large fish are an important part of the breeding population and striped bass carry toxins that are dangerous to eat (as to what part of the fish is clean you have provided no information, just self-serving conjecture).

So, can YOU admit you are wrong as well?

I am not a scientist, marine biologist... This is what I was told, this is the process and the best way to get an overall reading. I know youd like to, but you cant go and tell people what parts of the fish, if any they should eat. I am sure they also singled out different parts of the fish to see where the highest levels are that why he said the majority of it is in the head, fat, blood lines of the fish... I trim my fillets and eat the white meat only...

Agian, I NEVER SAID large fish arent an important part of the breeding population... Just like in any animal they have a life span and will eventually die... They are not the PRIME breeders of the species and do not spawn every single year once they reach a certain age...

You know drinking out of plastic bottles may cause cancer too?? Why eat or drink anything? You eat Organic Foods Only???


Wrong? All I did was post a picture and you guys jumped all over me.... You think that gives me more of an incentive to release these fish?

I wouldn't apologize. He just comes here to get a pat on the back, stir the pot and talk about how the number of stripers killed should be reduced while posting pictures of stripers he killed.

Well, Ken, add another mistake to your list.

I called the MA state Dept of Public health and was connected to the head of the food lab.

State fisheries (ie the DMF) will grind up a whole fish when they want to investigate total toxin burden in the fish for fish biology reasons. This process (and the DMF itself) has NOTHING to do with testing for toxins that are harmful for human consumption.

That testing is done by the state DPH and the FDA. Unless the fish is eaten whole...such as anchovies....the policy is to fillet the fish, homogenize the fillet, and test only the edible flesh.

Now I realize that some people with really big mouths may eat 40lb bass whole, but it is not the standard practice so the DPH and FDA do not test fish that way.

I hope you find this helpful and cease spreading misinformation that will give people a false sense of security when they eat striped bass.

Wow this has got more action than my day time soaps. Mud slinging, name calling, science facts, pictures, more mud slinging, murder victims, food preparation techniques, bragging rights, character assassinations. Could have sworn we went thru this just this spring and last winter or last spring or all three. Going to be a long winter.

You forgot sexual advances Paul! Bart and I were steaming things up a bit!!:love:

lol

Best season for me to date Ken. I have a lot to learn but got a lot of hours on the new boat.Fluke,sea bass ,cod,haddock,tog,tuna,I even caught a couple bass.Fished with my brother a lot and really enjoyed my time on the water.It's hard without Bruce holding my hand, but I'll get there in time and have fun doing it.Expenses weren't a factor,you know my boat is cheap to run.Nice to hear business is good for you,I know you fish hard.You can use all those clients to catch fish for you to weigh in the tournaments right?Uh,where did I hear THAT?
Take it slow Hollywood.See you in VA Beach.

I was kinda thinking that with Law & Order off the air I'd be starving for those plots, but who knew? :rotf2:

I'm trying to chime in on this thread but don't know what to say. I'm like a deer caught in headlights. I like bass.

:fence::lurk:

Larry's on a tear. We kissed and made up earlier, and now he's working on Bart!

Boy's gonna catch somethin' if he's not careful.
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Nuthin' but hard truth and love for my fellow S-Ber's!:love:

Larry! Your such a slut!
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lol NAAA hes 36 short of 20k,

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. All i am reading is crying on both sides. Man up were all to blame for the stocks declining.