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MrHunters 08-05-2011 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chefchris401 (Post 876929)
when a world record fish is caught like this or any other, the igfa verifies all the details.

heres the paperwork that needs to be filled out, its pretty thorough.

http://www.igfa.org/PDF/IGFA_Record_...ation_2011.pdf

read the top part of page 1, they will subject you to a ploygraph if need be.

Hopefully he comes away from this with the new record.

if they open it up and its got 5 lbs of lead form yo yo bunker bunker but he has nothing to do with it, that would suck for the angler

Wonder what Lev is thinking right now.

BigFish 08-05-2011 01:10 PM

You catch a beautiful fish and you need to be subjected to filling out a pile of paperwork for it??? Sca-rew that!! I would do just what he did....take my fish and go home! He knows he caught it and that would be enough for me were I in his shoes!:uhuh:

UserRemoved1 08-05-2011 01:10 PM

"*Here's another quick update from a credible source. Mr. Stromski Myerson is apparently being so hounded he's had a panic attack. The fish is supposedly on ice in his truck, which is parked at the hospital where he's in the ER. Still not knowing how legit this catch is, it just goes to show you how powerful this fish is and how crazy people are about it."

WHAT'S NEXT IT GOT EATEN BY A RACCOON?

MrHunters 08-05-2011 01:11 PM

larry, though it makes me sad. I keep chuckling at your sig. :)

UserRemoved1 08-05-2011 01:13 PM

7 Pages on sol. Tammy is gonna need more storage space by dinnertime :hee:

JackK 08-05-2011 01:13 PM

Pig fish. Story is getting weird though. Why not submit it for verification? Makes zero sense. F&S reporting the guy is at a hospital for panic attacks now?

Does kinda look like it was dragged behind a truck though, haha.

BigFish 08-05-2011 01:13 PM

Have not updated in some time but.....it would not appear much different!:rotf2: Just more zeros!

JohnR 08-05-2011 01:14 PM

Updated from OTW's Facebook page:

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Here’s the facts, reported to us by Connecticut-based OTW writer Kierran Broatch: This morning, Striper Cup angler Greg Myerson weighed in a striped bass that registered 81.88 pounds on the scale at Jack’s Shoreline in Westbrook, Connecticut – almost 12 hours after it had been landed Thursday evening aboard a boat in Long Island Sound. If the fish had been properly documented, it could have been eligible for the world record. However, at the moment Myerson has decided to take the fish home at not pursue record certification. Here’s a photo of the fish, taken earlier this morning.
http://www.onthewater.com/assets/Mye...riped-bass.jpg

InTheHole 08-05-2011 01:17 PM

All I can say is ....WOW !!! That is a monster !!!

Rockfish9 08-05-2011 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot (Post 876895)
Congratulations to him :btu:
quite an accomplishment pulling a record striper out of the water.

There must be a 100 pounder out there someplace
I can't believe that was caught in CT in August :wall:

thankfully he's a Red Sox fan too :fishin:

Hey Joe, he caught your fish :grins:

LMAO .. it aint over until I stop fishin'.. .. that's the beauty of striper fishing... no fish is too big for the imagination... lest we forget the pair of 100lb ( aleged) fish caught in a sein net in south ( or north, I forget) Carolina.. the a hellof a fish.. I'd like to shake the guy's hand.. he deserves that much.

UserRemoved1 08-05-2011 01:24 PM

what's the white line above the fish?

spence 08-05-2011 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& (Post 876942)
what's the white line above the fish?

Antenna protruding from the brain stem.

-spence

Nebe 08-05-2011 01:38 PM

This whole thing makes me LOL.. :buds::buds::buds::buds:

UserRemoved1 08-05-2011 01:42 PM

Alien Bass

Nebe :wave:

Wait it's almost time for the raccoon :rotf2:


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Originally Posted by spence (Post 876943)
Antenna protruding from the brain stem.

-spence


Swimmer 08-05-2011 01:47 PM

He should realize that regardless of what he does with the fish he was and is going to be hounded for a long time to come. So he should submit it for the IGFA record and take any money he can earn with it. I feel bad for the guy. This guy played college ball, so he has an education and is having a terrible time with it allready. Imagine what it did to Mcreynolds with his barely thier education.

If he was on a boat he probably has witnesses and I wish him the very best for his catch.

DZ 08-05-2011 01:48 PM

Nice. The pectoral fin on that fish is larger than any bass I've caught recently.

DZ

Mike P 08-05-2011 01:56 PM

He has 30 days to submit the paperwork, along with a section of line and at least a diagram of his terminal rig, if not the whole rig. I don't think there's any requirement that an IGFA official actually physically inspect or eviscerate the fish. Bear in mind that many WR submissions come into the IGFA's headquarters every year, for both all-tackle and line class records, from all corners of the world, and the IGFA can't possibly inspect every fish. The fish has to be weighed from land on a certified scale. It has to be measured for length and girth, and it has to be photographed. If you have a hand-scale pre-certified by the IGFA, the fish can even be released as long as a third party witness also attests to the fish. So obviously, a fish doesn't have to be cut open and checked for weights. I have 3 friends who hold or have held IGFA line class records, and none of their fish were inspected by anyone after the weighing/measuring/picture taking. One was eaten later the same day.

My guess is that Myerson took his fish home to weigh his options, and to give himself time to think about how much bull#^&#^&#^&#^& he wants to take. I'm seriously doubting the "credible source" who claims he went to the hospital with a panic attack. This isn't the guy's first trip to the rodeo.

Oh yeah--and based on the last picture that John posted---I have no doubt that the fish goes 81.88 lbs.

Fishoholic 08-05-2011 01:57 PM

I'd love to hear the dimensions. Helluva fish... :uhuh:

JackK 08-05-2011 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Swimmer (Post 876948)
He should realize that regardless of what he does with the fish he was and is going to be hounded for a long time to come. So he should submit it for the IGFA record and take any money he can earn with it. I feel bad for the guy. This guy played college ball, so he has an education and is having a terrible time with it allready. Imagine what it did to Mcreynolds with his barely thier education.

This. He's already under huge scrutiny. At the very least it needs to be looked at by state biologists, other witnesses, etc. If he just runs home with it and doesn't allow it to be examined he's going to be called a cheat by many for the rest of his life.

Doesn't add up though- why not care about the IGFA record, but still care about the Cup? I think the IGFA would be 10x more important than the cup- which'll just net him a GPS and a fiberglass mount... Obviously notoriety is important to him, he made a name for himself last year, and is continuing it this year. He doesn't fish for a team. While it's great to have a shot at winning $10k, the endorsements from being the world record holder would be worth so much more.

I don't doubt that he caught it or the weight- the whole thing just seems odd to me.

cheferson 08-05-2011 02:04 PM

took a ride . long gone ....

Owner looked stressed , had an attorney there screening calls! :biglaugh:

RIJIMMY 08-05-2011 02:09 PM

This is great, congrats to the angler. I hope he certifies it
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Saltheart 08-05-2011 02:11 PM

I hope it all works out for the guy. Being an experienced fisherman , he knows there will be crap about a big fish so i doubt he would do anything shady. I say nice catch and congrats on the world record. I don't care of IGFA certifies it or not. If he weighed it on a state certified scale , that weight is good with me. Yes I would think people would want to see the insides but that's up to the fisherm,an. I have seen obviously stuffed fish weighed in for tournaments at tackle shops. The things look like they have jagged weights at different angles pushing the belly out from inside. This fish looks very natural and not at all stuffed. In fact it looks less full of food than you would expect from such a big sucker.

Congrats Greg. I hope the catch brings you joy like it should and not misery from other jealous fisherman!

zacs 08-05-2011 02:11 PM

i don't get you guys. This isn't going to ruin anybody's life. Wait, a bunch of jealous morons are questioning him on the internet! Oh No!!!

I say congrats, he should be proud, submit to IFGA, enjoy one of the most prestigious records for inshore gamefish, and F-CK all of the faceless keyboard homos who question the validity. Make some money off it if you can, and like i said, ignore the idiots.

Seriously, would you guys really care what a bunch of losers say on the internet? If you know in your heart it is true, then who really cares what these jealous idiots say.

JohnR 08-05-2011 02:12 PM

This guy has a lot of top fish in OTW over the years and now I recognize him from last year (he had a 57) and has a few 50s this year.

He is one of the elite anglers for certain.

I can understand not wanting to go though the IGFA process, though not sure I would make the same determination. Hope I have to figure that dilema ;)

spence 08-05-2011 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JackK (Post 876954)
I don't doubt that he caught it or the weight- the whole thing just seems odd to me.

As often in the case when stories drip, drip, drip in and there are many who want nothing more than to shoot the guy down.

Hell, simply getting his name wrong up front probably gave the conspiracy theorists all the ammo they needed :uhuh:

-spence

Rockport24 08-05-2011 02:16 PM

Agree the guy was probably just thinking about his options. You gotta think somebody as good as him would love a world record under his belt. Quite an accomplishment.
I still, however, would like to see a pic that shows the true scale of this beast, hell call up Al M. and have HIM stand next to it!!

stinkyink 08-05-2011 02:19 PM

Quite an accomplishment for sure!

rizzo 08-05-2011 02:21 PM

Heres a scenario for everyone to think about: You catch a world record fish. Upon inspection by a state biologist they find it had 10 pounds of lead in it, 7 pieces of #8 rebar down the spine, pumped full of water and stuffed with rotten bunker. Theres about 30 pounds.... If you think you have the record, you NEED to prove you're innocent of these games.

In this day and age its rediculous the things people would cheat for. You're going to get criticized in this situation. Gutting the fish and finding 3 yoyo rigs is one thing, stuffing the fish is another. Upon examination and you find no tampering - alright we're on to something here, adds credibility to the record.

CowHunter 08-05-2011 02:48 PM

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He should of let them inspect the fish and submit the paperwork and then there would not be any controversey. Instead hes letting a possible world record fish rot in the back of a pickup truck? This was a pic of his 60lber from earlier this year, I know there was alot of discussion on this fish and OTW got quite a few emails. Guess they made it a point to get down there and inspect the fish today...

piemma 08-05-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BigFish (Post 876933)
You catch a beautiful fish and you need to be subjected to filling out a pile of paperwork for it??? Sca-rew that!! I would do just what he did....take my fish and go home! He knows he caught it and that would be enough for me were I in his shoes!:uhuh:

Larry, about 5 years ago I started a thread asking what a new Striper World Recod would be worth. I stand by what I said. If it stands up and the kid has a brain in his head, he will get the best sports attorney money can buy. The fish is work $$$$$$. Endorcements for everything from rod, reel, line, hook, swivel, boat, shoes, shorts underwear, hats, you name it. Not to mention he gets it mounted and goes on the show circuit this winter. What a draw for a sportman show. Every "ham and egger" in the vicinity will pay to see the new world record. Books, Articles. Hell, I could make a fortune if it was me.

Mike P 08-05-2011 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JackK (Post 876954)
He's already under huge scrutiny. At the very least it needs to be looked at by state biologists, other witnesses, etc. .

Actually--to be accepted as a world record by the only people who count---the IGFA--it doesn't. IMO the striped bass is a species that can be readily and definitively identified from a photograph, and thus, it would not have to be examined by a incthyologist:

SPECIES IDENTIFICATION

1. Photographs must be submitted by which positive identification of the exact species can be made. Read the rules on photographs at the end of this section, and refer to the Species Identification section in the World Record Game Fishes book to determine which features must show to identify your fish. Applications without photographs will not be accepted.

2. If there is the slightest doubt that the fish cannot be properly identified from the photographs and other data submitted, the fish should be examined by an ichthyologist or qualified fishery biologist before a record application is submitted to IGFA. The scientist’s signature and title (or qualifications) should appear on the IGFA application form or on a separate document confirming the identification of the species.

PaulS 08-05-2011 03:01 PM

I can handle a world record fish and a $1,000,000 check.

chefchris401 08-05-2011 03:15 PM

why are all his fish red??

Ive caught fish and cleaned them 12 to 16 hours later and they were never that discolored. of course there not super cows either.

is it just because the size of the fish? not iced right?

if this guy caught one 60 lber yearlier in the year then he should know how to properly ice a fish, one would think. :huh:

JackK 08-05-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 876985)
Actually--to be accepted as a world record by the only people who count---the IGFA--it doesn't. IMO the striped bass is a species that can be readily and definitively identified from a photograph, and thus, it would not have to be examined by a incthyologist:

Sorry, I didn't mean that it should be looked at to qualify for the record- I just meant that he should have it looked at to silence any critics about it's weight. If there's nothing to worry about, what's the problem?

Only issue I could see was if he was planning on getting it mounted (assuming he is) the taxidermist might want it round and untouched. But I would think that as long as accurate measurements are taken, a small incision in the fish wouldn't subtract from the quality of the eventual mount.

Plus, the scales, otoliths, DNA etc would probably be pretty useful (or at the least interesting) to state biologists. There's quite a bit that could be learned from this fish- shame to let that go to waste. Goes for the BI 77 pounder as well.

rizzo 08-05-2011 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P (Post 876985)
Actually--to be accepted as a world record by the only people who count---the IGFA--it doesn't. IMO the striped bass is a species that can be readily and definitively identified from a photograph, and thus, it would not have to be examined by a incthyologist:.

If that is true, it further proves the record process is weak at best and the IGFA is a bunch of jokers in a world of make believe. Like the Katy Perry video for california gurls! If you want to get caught up in the game of records at least put some legit science behind it with a credible game plan.

Another scenario: - if I kept a fish in the freezer my buddy gill netted 2 months ago, what would it look like when its defrosted?

I hope everyone is having as much fun with this as I am :jump1:

Nebe 08-05-2011 03:26 PM

I call BS on the panic attack. He's probably got the fish in the MRI right now scanning it for lead. Ha!
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JohnnySaxatilis 08-05-2011 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MrHunters (Post 876932)
Wonder what Lev is thinking right now.

lev woldyka of menemsha mv?

The famous jelly belly nelly scandal!!!?????

vineyardblues 08-05-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 876962)
This guy has a lot of top fish in OTW over the years and now I recognize him from last year (he had a 57) and has a few 50s this year.

He is one of the elite anglers for certain.

I can understand not wanting to go though the IGFA process, though not sure I would make the same determination. Hope I have to figure that dilema ;)



Like John states above this guy CAN FISH !!!!

Answer this question pls as I have never played in the OTW contest , do they open the fish up ?

I have played in the Marthas Vineyard derby for years , and my answer is yes

Thanks in advance

Mike P 08-05-2011 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rizzo (Post 876996)
If that is true, it further proves the record process is weak at best and the IGFA is a bunch of jokers in a world of make believe. Like the Katy Perry video for california gurls! If you want to get caught up in the game of records at least put some legit science behind it with a credible game plan.

Another scenario: - if I kept a fish in the freezer my buddy gill netted 2 months ago, what would it look like when its defrosted?

I hope everyone is having as much fun with this as I am :jump1:

I'm thinking that if you caught the fish in Mass, you could grow to old age waiting for an EPO or someone from the state to come down and verify what species of fish that it is. :rotf2:

Bottom line--there's only one fish in the North Atlantic that looks like a striped bass, and that grows to 80 pounds, and that's a striped bass. There's no need for anyone to examine it to verify that it's a striped bass. As far as the rest of it goes, the weighmaster has to attest to it, the town official has to attest to the fact of the scale's certification, and at least one witness has to attest to the weighing besides the weighmaster. How much verification does anyone want? At the end of the day, you're certifying a fishing record, nothing more. It's not a big deal to about 95% of the world's population.

rizzo 08-05-2011 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by vineyardblues (Post 877006)
Like John states above this guy CAN FISH !!!!

Answer this question pls as I have never played in the OTW contest , do they open the fish up ?

I have played in the Marthas Vineyard derby for years , and my answer is yes

Thanks in advance

No, therefore you can stuff fish and make yourself look like an accomplished angler.

For the record, I'm not attacked anyone in particular, I hope Greg is getting the fish MRI'd and medically examined and DNA stuff to prove himself right. Just trying to raise overall awareness of all those bright eyed innocent people out there wanting to believe everything they hear without questioning it.

Final scenario: bruins win the stanley cup. no celebration in front of the crowds, no parade in boston. all that hardwork for what? I guess a true sportsman doesnt need anyones approval except his own.


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