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scottw 09-17-2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 959072)
That wasn't sophistry.

The investigative report is clearly misleading, even Justplugit is coming to false conclusions.

-spence

atta boy....you are right, and have all the facts....everyone else is wrong or misleading or misled....makes the world a great place don't it?:)

justplugit 09-17-2012 05:28 PM

Spence, point being as Commander in Chief, responslble for the safety
of America's Citizens, he is missing personal interaction with his Daily Intelligence
Meetings %50 of the the time, no matter how hard you try to explain it away.

RIROCKHOUND 09-17-2012 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 959136)
Spence, point being as Commander in Chief, responslble for the safety
of America's Citizens, he is missing personal interaction with his Daily Intelligence
Meetings %50 of the the time, no matter how hard you try to explain it away.

Do we know what % of these briefings either Bush or Clinton went to?
Or is this just more rhetoric and hyperbole?

scottw 09-17-2012 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 959136)
Spence, point being as Commander in Chief, responslble for the safety
of America's Citizens, he is missing personal interaction with his Daily Intelligence
Meetings %50 of the the time, no matter how hard you try to explain it away.

I can explain it...par for the course...pardon the pun:uhuh:

Obama Holds First Cabinet Meeting Since January
9:02 AM, Jul 26, 2012

According to President Barack Obama's official schedule, "Later in the afternoon, the President will hold a Cabinet Meeting in the Cabinet Room. There will be a pool spray at the top of the meeting."

By CBS reporter Mark Knoller's account, this cabinet meeting is the first one President Obama has held since January 31:
......................

President Obama's jobs panel missing in action
By JOSH GERSTEIN | 7/18/12 4:37 AM EDT

President Barack Obama’s Jobs Council hasn’t met publicly for six months, even as the issue of job creation dominates the 2012 election.

President Obama's jobs panel missing in action - Josh Gerstein - POLITICO.com


probably just really, really "extremely engaged in the intelligence and security process"

scottw 09-18-2012 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 959144)
Do we know what % of these briefings either Bush or Clinton went to?
Or is this just more rhetoric and hyperbole?


Marc Thiessen: Why is Obama skipping more than half of his daily intelligence meetings? - The Washington Post

While the Bush records are not yet available electronically for analysis, officials tell me the former president held his intelligence meeting six days a week, no exceptions — usually with the vice president, the White House chief of staff, the national security adviser, the director of National Intelligence, or their deputies, and CIA briefers in attendance. Once a week, he held an expanded Homeland Security briefing that included the Homeland Security adviser, the FBI director and other homeland security officials. Bush also did more than 100 hour-long “deep dives” in which he invited intelligence analysts into the Oval Office to get their unvarnished and sometimes differing views. Such meetings deepened the president’s understanding of the issues and helped analysts better understand the problems with which he was wrestling.


at some point Spence and the other Obama defenders have to wake up from this fantasy that he's the smartest ever and anything that pokes holes in that big pink bubble is unfair, untrue, misleading or...something far worse(when all else fails)...

the results are a pretty good indicator...middle east is in chaos, don't know if you are paying attention to China and Japan but the groundwork is being laid for a major confrontation in the Asian Pacific, the Fed has undertaken QE3, dependence on government is at record levels and going up, you have to do a houdini every jobs report to try to claim any improvement, gas is at 4 bucks, funny that O came into office bashing Wall Street and basically the one thing that he can try to claim is doing much better under his watch is...WALL STREET:rotf2:

scottw 09-18-2012 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 958927)
See you see hatred in things like the health services bill. I see a policy that doesn't require members to violate their personal beliefs by taking advantage of contraceptives (which largely should reduce unwanted pregnancies, and the potential number of abortions, no?), but lets those who may work in a Catholic hospital/school who may not have the same fervent belief's in the churches stance on contraceptives.

Bryan....this is rhetoric and hyperbole :uhuh:

RIROCKHOUND 09-18-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 959181)
Bryan....this is rhetoric and hyperbole :uhuh:

Actually, that quote, I would say is my interpretation, vs. the way Jim interprets it.

Jim in CT 09-18-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND (Post 959201)
Actually, that quote, I would say is my interpretation, vs. the way Jim interprets it.

Here's what you said...

"I see a policy that doesn't require members to violate their personal beliefs..."

OK, maybe it doesn't violate the beliefs of the individuals. But how can you say it doesn't violate the belief of the employer, for example the Catholic Church? Obama is telling the Cathlic Church that it must pay for, and provide, that which it teaches is immoral. Nothing could be a more obvious violation of Catholic Catechism than telling the Church it must provide contraception on demand, for the explicit purposes of recreational sex (the Church does provide contraception for legitimate medical need, but not for recreational sex)

Jim in CT 09-18-2012 11:02 AM

[QUOTE=scottw;959179

the results are a pretty good indicator...middle east is in chaos, don't know if you are paying attention to China and Japan but the groundwork is being laid for a major confrontation in the Asian Pacific, the Fed has undertaken QE3, dependence on government is at record levels and going up, you have to do a houdini every jobs report to try to claim any improvement, gas is at 4 bucks, funny that O came into office bashing Wall Street and basically the one thing that he can try to claim is doing much better under his watch is...WALL STREET:rotf2:[/QUOTE]

That says it all. How this guy is polling north of 45%, with that track record, is beyond me. It's just incomprehensible.

RIJIMMY 09-18-2012 11:16 AM

For all, please google Fiscal Cliff
This stuff is real. This is non-partisan. This is very, very scary.

Jim in CT 09-18-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by RIJIMMY (Post 959225)
For all, please google Fiscal Cliff
This stuff is real. This is non-partisan. This is very, very scary.

You are a racist. You hate women.

justplugit 09-19-2012 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 959072)

The investigative report is clearly misleading, even Justplugit is coming to false conclusions.

-spence

Spence, after you were proven wrong by the Washinton Post Thissen Report,
I'm still waiting for your retraction about me coming to false conclusions. :hihi:
Bold print would be fine. :cheers:


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