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Originally Posted by spence (Post 962437)

President Obama's remark about redistribution was in the context of ensuring everybody has a shot, but praised innovation and competition as being critical to the economy.

It's quite possible that without a redistributive system -- that all parties have implicitly endorsed for decades -- we wouldn't have a middle class.

I'd think if any of us had tens of millions of dollars we'd be just as charitable. It's easy to give away millions when you don't need any of it.

-spence

"President Obama's remark about redistribution was in the context of ensuring everybody has a shot"

Spence, we all want everybody to have a shot. Today, most people have a shot. There will never, ever be a day when no one slips through the cracks. And here is what you and Obama, for some reason, do not grasp. Those that don't have a viable shot, for the most part, do not have problems that can be solved by the feds spending money. What you also don't understand is this - if the feds continue to borrow $1 trillion from China every year, and we refuse to address entitlement reform, then you are guaranteeing that in future generations, fewer people will have a shot.

Try making that wrong.

Put down the Kool Aid for 5 damn seconds, and think rationally.

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Originally Posted by Scuttlebutt (Post 962295)

Come on. What's the beef with someone being successful...honestly. Aren't you tired of ripping successful people. This is the USA for cripes sake. We are flush with successful people. Land of opportunity remember. This BS about "he/she makes more money than me (or is more successful than me) and I want some of if" has to go. Wah, wah, wah...Boo frickity whoo! Try this... get a job, start at the bottom, work your ass off...voila! That's what my wife and I did. Married at 22. Moved into an apartment with my belongings in a shoebox and $500 from our wedding. I'm not rich by any means but we saved for a modest house...raised two great kids...and socked a little coin away for the golden years and maybe a new reel. No handouts from anyone...been working our butts off (and paying our share of income taxes) since we were 16. See it can be done! Success!
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