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spence 08-02-2015 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1078142)
four....."common sense"

Thinking it's feasible to deport 11 million + people defies common sense, hence it didn't make the cut.

scottw 08-02-2015 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1078145)
Thinking it's feasible to deport 11 million + people defies common sense, hence it didn't make the cut.

if we can import we can export...thinking we can't do something like that defies common sense....thinking we can adopt 11 million(probably a lot more in reality) people as citizens who came here illegally and the flood will just slow "defies common sense" and destroys any future hope of controlling our borders or maintaining a legal immigration system that has any merit or purpose....common sense makes the cut because it excludes all progressives who seem to operate on the notion that they can outsmart common sense and have good results...

spence 08-02-2015 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1078148)
if we can import we can export...thinking we can't do something like that defies common sense....thinking we can adopt 11 million(probably a lot more in reality) people as citizens who came here illegally and the flood will just slow "defies common sense" and destroys any future hope of controlling our borders or maintaining a legal immigration system that has any merit or purpose....common sense makes the cut because it excludes all progressives who seem to operate on the notion that they can outsmart common sense and have good results...

"Import" implies a deliberate act, we didn't import 11 million illegals.

scottw 08-02-2015 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1078150)
"Import" implies a deliberate act, we didn't import 11 million illegals.

so you're saying they shouldn't be here....and by the way, much has been deliberate, I think both sides would agree whether you place the bulk of blame on business or government policy...

justplugit 08-02-2015 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1078145)
Thinking it's feasible to deport 11 million + people defies common sense, hence it didn't make the cut.

Spence, that is your opinion. If the original immigrant policy was enforced we wouldn't be in this mess.
You forgot to answer the question- "Let's hear your plan, Spence." :hihi:

Jim in CT 08-04-2015 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1078107)
That's pretty much Trump's plan. Except nobody but you and Donald seem to think it's feasible.

You don't think it's feasible to deport the ones who have committed crimes here? Eisenhower, in 1954, deported all the illegals they could round-up, whether they had committed a crime or not. He deported over one million. It was called, amazingly, Operation Wetback. Not the most sensitive name to give the operation, but it showed that large-scale deportations aren't logistically impossible.

justplugit 08-04-2015 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1078154)
Spence, that is your opinion. If the original immigrant policy was enforced we wouldn't be in this mess.
You forgot to answer the question- "Let's hear your plan, Spence." :hihi:

Spence this is my third request.

"Let's hear your plan, Spence."
You libs are supposed to want fairness, how can you leave this thread after
knocking my plan without giving me a shot at yours. :hihi: :D

spence 08-05-2015 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit (Post 1078301)
Spence this is my third request.

"Let's hear your plan, Spence."
You libs are supposed to want fairness, how can you leave this thread after
knocking my plan without giving me a shot at yours. :hihi: :D

I think we've discussed this in the past. Rubio's own plan which he ditched once Obama pretty much called for the same thing was a good start. Enable the Dreamers, give status for those who register, increase penalties for those who employ and work to keep the criminals out.

spence 08-05-2015 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1078259)
You don't think it's feasible to deport the ones who have committed crimes here? Eisenhower, in 1954, deported all the illegals they could round-up, whether they had committed a crime or not. He deported over one million. It was called, amazingly, Operation Wetback. Not the most sensitive name to give the operation, but it showed that large-scale deportations aren't logistically impossible.

I didn't say impossible I said feasible.

In 1954 the Mexican government wanted their people back because they needed the labor, it's a totally different scenario. Also back then I don't think people were woven and dispersed like they are now.

Perhaps even a bigger factor. In California which was a focus of the Operation about 8% of the State was of Hispanic/Latino decent...today that number is around 30%.


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