seems like a disproportionate number of democrats not only struggle to obtain something as simple as an id...a disproportionate number of democrats struggle to obtain a copy of the US Constitution for reference as well :hee: ..neither is a very high bar

not surprising that the no borders, citizens of the world, undocumented democrats crowd fight tooth and nail to ensure that everyone dead or alive, legal or illegal, registered or unregistered have the ability to cast a ballot

the slump in democrat turnout is likely a result of years of democrats registering anyone and everyone that they can shake out of the bushes, probably multiple times in multiple districts in order to swell the voter rolls......many of these folks may have found their way to the polls in recent years having been promised lots of free stuff and better lives in exchange for doing so......

this year I'm guessing they are realizing that despite dutifully electing and reelecting the givers of great things to the downtrodden....they've gotten nothing....their lives are no better....

and now they will be asked to go through the trouble of voting for one of the Democrat Walking Dead options of old white lunatics....

:rotflmao:

Oh that's poetry, thanks!

I'm not sure because it was a while ago, but do you need to show ID when you register to vote? If you have to show it when you register.....why is it all of a sudden a burden to show it when you show up on Election Day
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Well I looked up the answer to my own question.....pretty much every state requires your drivers license or SSN to register, which serves as your voter ID number. If you do not have one of those they will issue you a unique voter ID number.

Maybe if you go that route, the state sends you a card with your voter ID number on it and you bring it to the polls when you vote.

Nobody gets to vote without a unique voter ID number anyways so this wouldn't be singling anybody out...
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Racist! Hate crime! Intolerant!

Listen here ya Crazy Cracka!!!
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Problem is that if there isn't a photo ID to go along with the ID number, then someone other than you can use your number. Using other people's (even dead ones) registration is one of the types of voter fraud.

I know it doesn't cure all the ills, but if you show up with a card, that has a voter ID number on it......at least your not just throwing out a name and using it to vote.

.....and maybe they should start putting your picture on your voting ID card when you register......it's still not singling people out when they register.
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Sounds like a plan.

I didn't think you would fall into the Voter fraud is real camp ? you seem well informed on most topics


Exaggerated or unfounded allegations of fraud by dead voters include the following:
• In Georgia in 2000, 5,412 votes were alleged to have been cast by deceased voters over the past 20
years.91 The allegations were premised on a flawed match of voter rolls to death lists. A follow-up
report clarified that only one instance had been substantiated, and this single instance was later
found to have been an error: the example above, in which Alan J. Mandel was confused with Alan
J. Mandell.92 No other evidence of fraudulent votes was reported.
• In Michigan in 2005, 132 votes were alleged to have been cast by deceased voters.93 The allegations
were premised on a flawed match of voter rolls to death lists. A follow-up investigation
by the Secretary of State revealed that these alleged dead voters were actually absentee ballots
mailed to voters who died before Election Day; 97 of these ballots were never voted, and 27
15
were voted before the voter passed away.94 Even if the remaining eight cases all revealed substantiated
fraud, that would amount to a rate of at most 0.0027%.95
• In New Jersey in 2004, 4,755 deceased voters were alleged to have cast a ballot. The allegations
were premised on a flawed match of voter rolls to death lists. No follow-up investigation publicly
documented any substantiated cases of fraud of which we are aware, and there were no reports
that any of these allegedly deceased voters voted in 2005.96
• In New York in 2002 and 2004, 2,600 deceased voters were alleged to have cast a ballot, again
based on a match of voter rolls to death lists. Journalists following up on seven cases found clerical
errors and mistakes but no fraud, and no other evidence of fraud was reported.97

So statistically you have a better chance of getting struck by lighting than Voter fraud ... if and when it happens

Just 23 people died as a direct result from lightning strikes in 2013, according to figures from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). or voted fraudulently out of 316.5 million not all of voting age statistically speaking

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/up...idespread.html

It's great isn't it? Voter fraud is an existential threat to our way of life but racism and climate change are non issues.

Maybe if people could actually stick to the definition of racism instead of throwing it out willy nilly we might be able to do something about.

I don't think voter fraud is a big deal....but I also don't think it's a big deal to show some ID either. It really can't be seen both ways?
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Arguments on both sides can be found on the net. If you choose to believe one over the other, so be it. You can find other statistics if you choose to. But even that would be argumentative. Their are many problems in trying to discover and prove what is before your eyes. One problem is relying only on what is "reported." And related to that problem is what the Justice Dept. wishes to investigate and prosecute. Ignoring a problem is one way of saying it doesn't exist. Politics plays a role on both sides. Voter registration mischief exists by Republicans as well as Democrats. And saying that it is "rare" does not make it insignificant. Murder is rare when considering how many murders occur in relation to the number of people in our country. There is something called the butterfly effect. The idea that the flapping of a butterfly's wings can create the motion that can eventually evolve into a hurricane. Small, "rare" things can lead to large events. Ignoring small problems can invite the problems to grow.

I like this more "thoughtful" rather than "statistical" analysis:

http://www.americanthinker.com/artic...ete_idiot.html

I found many articles on the net which differ than yours. But

Because the last 2 haven't affected not affected GOP voters or the party in America

but losing elections have .. it's as Basic as that

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Yet again 2a Supports state we need to enforce the gun laws we have now not enact new ones making it harder for law abiding people to buy a Gun .... But have no issues making more laws to address an issues to restrict law abiding people to vote .??. seems some think fraud has effected a recent election I cant make this stuff up

http://townhall.com/columnists/rache...raud/page/full

Again, you skirt the issue of the second amendment being an unalienable right not to be abridged, but voting is not. But, OK, let's use your non-constitutional argument. Let's make as a requirement to vote all the same kinds of laws we have now re owning a gun. You know, needing the proper ID, background checks, etc., etc. Then all will be equal and we won't have to impose any more restrictions on either gun ownership or voting. Would that be OK with you?