Think of it as Obamas third term, that'll make you feel better when it happens
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fixed it

So Hilary told the truth when:

she said that the GOP was framing Bill to make it look like he was cheating

she said she came under sniper fire

she said she turned over all her work emails (except the thousands that the FBI had to find)

Trump is a narcissist, no doubt. I can admit that. Can you admit that Hilary has told these lies?

You are a radical ideologue who denies all fact that don't serve your agenda.

How can Trump's dangerous "disorder" be, if he has so successfully functioned in society, in business, and now has managed to become the Republican Presidential nominee?

Is Mr. Trump's reputed narcissism worse than Hilary's . . . or any other politician? Or any worse than yours? You seem to be in love with your version of "faith in truth," and your job of providing spin, and your penchant for making smug observations and casting unsubstantiated opinions. Oh, that's right . . . you're not running for President. You're allowed to be a narcissist. And your disorder isn't hurting anyone . . . just annoying . . .

Jeff can really be a tool, but he thinks he is clever enough to get away with it without looking like a tool. He is more than a little self absorbed but did sell me some Heddy when I really wanted some so I offer my benefit of doubt as restitution. Keep chugging along Spence!
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We've covered all this previously.

Pardon me, no sir. I have never asked you (because the FBI hadn't confirmed it) about the fact that she said she turned over all her work emails (when the FBI said there were thousands she didn't turn over).

On the sniper thing, the most you ever admitted to me, is that you don't think she lied. We never went further than that. Let's do that now, if you have the honesty?

If you don't think she lied, that necessarily means that you think she believes it really happened. Which necessarily means she is a lunatic.

If lying like that means that Brian Williams isn't fir to read the news off a teleprompter (which any monkey can do), how can it not mean she's unfit to be POTUS?

And when your side was parading Cindy Sheehan around, I presume you found that just as appalling?

Yes, we covered this...as Comey said...

"I should add here that we found no evidence that any of the additional work-related e-mails were intentionally deleted in an effort to conceal them. Our assessment is that, like many e-mail users, Secretary Clinton periodically deleted e-mails or e-mails were purged from the system when devices were changed."

So clearly her attorneys didn't turn over the additional emails because they didn't know they were there.

As I've said before, there were reports of sniper fire previously, the plane did use evasive maneuvers and I believe they even wore protective vests. The point was that being Sec State did put her into dangerous situations. Perhaps as she just said it was a bad recollection or some dramatization for effect...but in the realm of political stump speeches is pretty insignificant.

As has been noted before, the fact checkers give Clinton exceptional marks.

"some dramatization for effect"

And that differs from a lie, how, exactly?

Which makes you wonder why she wouldn't try harder to keep her calendar and e-mails secure.....

Then why didn't she say, "as secstate, I went to some dangerous places"? No one would deny that. That's not even close to what she said.

She said that on a very specific trip, she was shot at by a sniper and had to dive into a waiting hummer.

How is her lie supposed to make the troops feel, who were crawling around in the woods, risking their lives, making sure there was no sniper? Because that's how the lie came out. An army officer went on Foxnews the night after her lie, and said "I was there, I met her at the runway, there was no sniper", and someone found the video.

"Perhaps as she just said it was a bad recollection "

Bullsh*t, and you know it. No one has that bad of a recollection. No one confuses working a rope line, shaking hands, posing for pictures...with getting shot at by a sniper.

Why did Brian Williams get suspended, Spence? Didn't he do the same exact thing?

I've said it before, it's really a shame that you weren't there to apologize for Hitler in 1940. I've had golden retrievers that weren't as blindly devoted to me, as you are to any Democrat. You literally are incapable of criticizing her.

:rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2::rotf2:

Originally Posted by spence
The point was that being Sec State did put her into dangerous situation


Not as dangerous as being say an Ambassador to say Lybia. What a hell hole that was
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Correction I meant first lady.

And Amb Stevens used to jog around Benghazi with no security.

Yeah . . . that turned out well.

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And Amb Stevens used to jog around Benghazi with no security.



he was probably told and believed "Isis is on the run" or something...

interesting, colorfully written article....http://www.huffingtonpost.com/riley-...b_9571956.html

And dozens of letters from him begging for more security before he was killed, just doesn't quite fit your narrative does it ?
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Do you genuinely believe that is a possibility? Do you genuinely believe that one can misremember whether an arrival at an airport was met by smiling children giving you flowers (which is what happened), or whether you were met by sniper fire?

It's like me misremembering that I was mauled by a tiger, or misremembering the weekend I spent in Bora Bora with Kate Upton and we forgot to bring any clothes.

I don't think Hillary would really classify as a narcissist. Trump is the poster child...Even Jim agrees here.

I think she'd agree with you.

you are drowning in the deep end of the pool....:uhuh:

Do you know what the word means?

I'd be happy to throw you an anchor :biglaugh:

One who makes everything about them selfs . That is the definition of what Hillary does . Exactly what Obama does ( the "I" President " and the opposite of why Trump is running for President.
Hillary needs to win to save her ass .
Trump wants to win to try to correct the damage from Hillary and Obama.
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pretty spot on

Hotchkiss identified what she called the seven deadly sins of narcissism:

Hillary= Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.

Hillary= Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.

Hillary=Arrogance: A narcissist who is feeling deflated may reinflate by diminishing, debasing, or degrading somebody else.

Hillary=Envy: A narcissist may secure a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt to minimize the other person.

Hillary=Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.

Hillary= Exploitation: Can take many forms but always involves the exploitation of others without regard for their feelings or interests. Often the other person is in a subservient position where resistance would be difficult or even impossible. Sometimes the subservience is not so much real as assumed.

Hillary=Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all. Those who provide narcissistic supply to the narcissist are treated as if they are part of the narcissist and are expected to live up to those expectations. In the mind of a narcissist, there is no boundary between self and other.


classic case

Trump is a world-class narcissist. Just so you know, that's what it looks like when a fair-minded person admits fault in a politician in their party.

Obama is also a narcissist...remember his inauguration? Something like, let today be remembered as the day the planet began to heal and the waters stopped rising!!! Trump has nothing on him when it comes to narcissism...

I wouldn't call Hilary a narcissist...I would call her a morally bankrupt, compulsive liar, who is married to, defended, and enabled, a predator. She also attacked his victims. That was after she claimed the GOP was framing Bill to make it look that way, of course...

Clinton doesn't really fit most of these. How can you claim someone who dedicates their life's work to helping women and children lacks empathy? How can someone who's known for operational execution be guilty of magical thinking? Who does she envy?

Doesn't add up.

Jim, did you note in the spirit of your original thread the shooter is a US Marine with PTSD?

baaaahaaaahaaaaa :rotf3:...drowning in it you are

Arrogance no question

Shamelessness no question

Narcissists see themselves as perfect no question

a sense of superiority in the face of another person's ability by using contempt noone displays contempt for others better than her highness

Entitlement no question

Exploitation no question

Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries no question

Nothing you say adds up . It's like you live in a bizarro world where your every position and every statement is opposite of reality . I'm not sure what medication you are on but man are you in for a rude awakening when your prescription runs out
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"known for operational execution"

that was freaking hilarious

I did. And I'd bet he was inspired by all the baseless rhetoric that comes from your side.

I also noted that NO ONE, anywhere, ever...confused a pleasant and peaceful reception, with getting shot at by a sniper and having to dive into a military vehicle. One doesn't mis-remember such things, unless one is insane.

"How can you claim someone who dedicates their life's work to helping women and children lacks empathy?"

What planet do you live on, exactly? Her LIFE'S WORK? Isn't she running for President? She's a plutocrat, a zillionaire. If she does charitable work, she is to be commended for that. But that is a side venture for her. Her life's work, is to get very rich, and to quench her thirst for personal achievement.

Let's not confuse her with Mother Theresa, OK?

Jesus Christ, you are out there in the Twilight Zone.

Helping women? What women was she dedicating her life's work to, when she attacked the victims of her husband's abuse, saying they were just out for money and publicity?

She is married to a predator, and you say with s straight face, that she dedicates her life to helping women.

Is that a joke?

"No. We just can't trust the American people to make those types of choices ... Government has to make those choices for people." – Hillary Clinton

"We came out of the White House not only dead-broke, but in debt. We had no money when we got there and we struggled to piece together the resources for mortgages, for houses, for Chelsea's education. It was not easy." – Hillary Clinton

“We are the president.” -- Hillary Clinton

“I can’t worry about every undercapitalized business” — Hillary Clinton

"Put this (helicopter) on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those sunglasses. We need to go back!" -- Hillary Clinton

“Many of you are well enough off that the tax cuts may have helped you. We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.” – Hillary Clinton

See Above

I love it, a bunch of out of context and/or single source quotes from anti-Hillary authors trying to make a buck.

Nice.

Glad to see everyone stiff focused on Hillary And the Donald remains unmolested .. still he has not provided a blue print on how he will Make America Great again .. or his Tax returns or how he will Heal the racial divide most claim that Obama created .. or providing theses answers to the american voter ... or will he say this is just more Political correctness .. and thats why he wont follow thru?:smokin:

As opposed to 2008, when your guy's entire platform was "hope and change".

He needs to get more specific soon. It doesn't usually get specific before a convention for a challenger.

"or his Tax returns "

Are you as upset that Obama is blocking his academic records from being released?

The hypocrisy and double standard is amazing.