I think the biggest problem is that people confuse an intelligence dossier with facts.
An intelligence dossier is the reason you investigate further. The special prosecutor is investigating and we will see what he finds.
My opinion is that Trump has always pushed the legal envelope in business and I don't think he sees politics any differently.
Few of us are not guilty of that in some way.

to be clear...this is not an American or British Intelligence dossier...this is a PRIVATE dossier...written by a former intelligence officer contracted by Clinton and the DNC as part of a dirt digging mission...of which.."Parts of the dossier have been confirmed, while others have yet to be proved or disproved,[8][9] including, as 2017 drew to a close, the dossier's allegations of collusion.[10][11] The media, intelligence community, as well as most experts have therefore treated the dossier with caution"


from wiki

After Trump emerged as the probable Republican nominee, attorney Marc Elias of the Perkins Coie law firm retained American research firm Fusion GPS to conduct opposition research about Trump on behalf of the Democratic National Committee and Clinton presidential campaign. Fusion GPS later contracted Steele to compile the dossier.[13] Following Trump's election as president, Steele continued working on the report, with funding from Democrats ceasing and financing finally coming directly from Glenn R. Simpson of Fusion GPS.

...and of course we know that the Clinton campaign and the Obama justice dept used this to try to sway an election that they were fully confident of winning.....:rotf2:

You should read the Simpson testimony released this week. It's credible and very damning.
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That is exactly correct. Word is that what was in the doc. confirmed what the FBI had already heard -maybe from their source in the Trump admin. if those reports are true.

Most people know it was not created by the US or British intelligence service but rather by the former head of the Russian desk of MI6 (I believe).

You seem to be stuck on the point that the free beacon was no longer paying for GPS' work at this point. Again, who paid for it makes no difference.

I don't think I've mentioned Free Beacon as an issue...read what you copied..Free Beacon says they're not connected to Steele or the dossier ...they're not relevant to the story as far as i'm concerned...you brought them into the conversation

yeah..."word"

you sound like Spence now

So what is bothering you then that caused you to make 12 posts on this page? Is it that wdmso said "republicans"?

I believe a part of it was corroborated by an inside source.

Steele wasn't just a Russian expert, according to the testimony he was hired party leaders because his expertise was spotting russian propaganda.
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there's nothing bothering me...do i need to be "bothered" to post?:hee:

indeed

Not at all. Post away. It is not my website.

democrats should really just refocus their effort on undermining the Trump economy...that will be their biggest enemy going forward

Kind of like what the republicans did with Obama ?
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yes, but it looks like they'll have to work twice as hard :hihi:

Yes, what a waste of $s looking into possible collusion w/the Russians or obstruction of justice. That money can be used for another committee to look into Bengazi.

And it's going to be a very formidable enemy. I would love to be the campaign manager of any Republican challenger running against a democrat opponent. All you have to do is run commercials saying that the democrat vote against the voters being able to keep more of their money. It's going to be effective.

There's that old saying that politics "is about the economy, stupid". If it was that simple, the GOP would make huge gains. But Trump is the most obnoxiously offensive POTUS I have seen, so that will have an effect. As will the fact that the liberals and the media never, ever stop bashing him long enough to take a breath. That's also effective.

The Democrats got absolutely demolished in both of Obama's midterms. People like Obama personally (for reasons that escape me), but they don't like his policies.

Trump is helping the economy in broader ways. The stock market is up (which Obama also deserves credit for), but he didn't cut taxes. 80% of us might see a net pay increase thanks to Trump, and every single democrat in DC voted against it. They are, and should be, scared of that fact.

the stock market is in fantasy land ... every one should be scared :kewl:

How much did the market go up last year? I wonder how much it went up in Obama's first year?
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Did you say that when it went up under Obama? Would you have said that if Hilary had won? I don't know a single financial advisor telling clients to short the market, or to cash out and put money in cash. The consensus is that the market will increase again in 2018. But no on knows for sure...

I give Obama credit for that. But it's also true, that when the market just crashed, it's easier to get increases, then when it is already high. It's like trying to reduce your golf handicap, it's easier when you are hitting 125 than it is when you are hitting 90.

Trump, unlike Obama, is putting money in the pockets of ordinary Americans, the ones Democrats claim to care so much about. Walmart is raising the company minimum wage to $11/hour, a raise of about $1.50 an hour in CT, $3,000 a year if you are full time. Combined with the tax cuts (reduction in tax rates, doubling of standard deduction, increased child tax credits), that's a real, meaningful boost to these people. And every single democrat voted against it. They may be at a complete loss explaining why.

Of course, if Trump makes inexcusable comments like the "sh*thole country" monstrocity, maybe people won't care about the economy. He may be such an ass, that people don't care about a booming economy. We'll see in November.

Walmart is also laying off thousands as it closes stores and has been under a massive PR onslaught for years for how little it pays employees.
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your confusing a slow and steady under Obama ,,,with guns a blazing under Trump.... you think its sustainable ? I dont

Financial advisors get paid up or down they are not required to look out for the interest of their clients (some may) but its easy money now

Also when Obama was in office most conservatives said the stock market didn't count... now its all Trump has

enjoy your kool aid comrade .. whats the saying If it Sounds Too Good to Be True, it Probably Is

I picked a really good time to retire. Even on a risk level of 3 on a scale of 1 to 10, my Fidelity accounts are doing almost 13%, can't imagine how the younger risk takers are doing. So while I absolutely loath the man, I love the economy right now and no I don't think he can claim all the credit.

Might be because Americans are beginning to realize purchasing junk made in China that breaks or fails quickly or is inadequate is not the way to go, it is about choices and quanity is not always better than quality. You get what you pay for. Everyone likes a good deal, I'm not sure buying trash is a good deal, not that some of their products are not useful because there are, but most of the stuff is crap. Same with Christmas Tree shops, Ocean State Job Lot etc.
As the economy improves, people want better stuff not crap

I didn't care for the artificial growth of stock value under Obama, nor am I comfortable with its continuing and meteoric growth now even though some (maybe most) is due to an actual expanding economy. I suspect too much "value" is in inflated worth. We'll see how it eventually shakes out.