None of the past Administration Dem or Rep none of the one can hold a candle

to the disfunction and inept leadership attached to Trumps presidency ...

And the faithful still cover for him

Hes not a politician

the media is not giving him a chance the FBI is corrupt the deep state BLA BLA BLA

But they will turn a blind eye to his lets just say Marital transgressions of $130,000 and $150,000

then say the issue with America is no god in schools and lack of morality ...

Its like the Far right response with the current shooting the Kids are paid Crisis actors and another false flag operation ... yet some American are in 100% agreement.. who do you think got their votes

You are correct, Trump doesn’t lie. He presents alternative facts.
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Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.
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I dont hate Republican for being Republicans .

"None of the past Administration Dem or Rep none of the one can hold a candle

to the disfunction and inept leadership attached to Trumps presidency ..."

On that, I agree 100%.

"And the faithful still cover for him "

On that, I disagree. Many republicans constantly criticize him for all the things he does wrong.

"Hes not a politician"

I see that as an attribute.

"the media is not giving him a chance "

Reporters are getting fied for making stuff up. Everyone said he sided with the Nazis at Charlottesville, when what he said was that he condemns bigotry on all sides. If that's Nazi sympathy, I sure don't see it. They are barely covering the economy.

"Its like the Far right response with the current shooting the Kids are paid Crisis actors "

When tragedy happens, both sides sink to weaponizing the suffering of their victims to advance an agenda. The right does it when Muslims or illegal aliens kill, the left does it with school shootings.

See if you can follow me here...both sides do it, and it's equally disgusting when either side does it. You deny this?

Trump is calling for the banning of bump stocks, going completely against the solid conservative base. Will he get any credit for deviating with his party platform?

It won't put a big dent in shooting deaths, but I like the move. Let's see if anyone on the left says "wow, when was the last time a president went against his party and sided with the other party, for the good of the country?" He was also willing to work with Dems on DACA, which also angered conservatives.

You're right, he's no politician. He is willing to disagree with conservative orthodoxy when he thinks it's the right thing to do. When was the last time a POTUS did that on major policy?

"voter fraud would rob him of the election"

Nope, Trump wasn't worried about voter fraud, he was talking about media bias. Regardless of the specific type of interference Trump was complaining about, Obama said it wasn't possible to interfere with the outcome of a presidential election. My my, how things change.

"His biggest lie he said he was going to make America great again !!
America never stopped being great "

I happen to agree with you, but that's not a demonstrable lie, it's a difference of opinion.

Obama promised "hope and change", well when was America ever hopeless and always the same? You criticize Trump for a campaign slogan, but not Obama.

"again you fail she was investigated and in the sunlight you just dont like the outcome "

I asked you what you thought of what as revealed in the email investigation. You dodged.

"you love speaking for Black america being down doesn't mean resolved"

Who said 'resolved'? Black unemployment I slower than it was during any point in the Obama administration. You cannot acknowledge the beauty of that (though we still have work to do) because you are blinded by partisan hate. The dems who sat, all feel the same way. If Hilary had won and she used that same line, would they have still sat? Would you still say "big deal, it's not resolved'?

"ISIS was getting pulverized from the start are you saying it took a republican to convince you it was happening "

Nope, I give Obama credit for that. See? It's possible to honestly acknowledge the good things the other party does. You should try it sometime.

Now, can you tell me who the Little Sisters discriminate against, [please?

So are you suggesting it did nothing ? what were your expectations? or are you saying Obama lied.. not sure how you can suggest the country got nothing ? from start to finish of his administration ,, every one R or D hoped for more I am sure



C&P In all, the administration rescued the US economy and bequeathed a sound foundation for its successor to build on. But it made a big mistake: it did not go all out to punish those whose malfeasance and irresponsibility blew up the financial system and economy. This sense of injustice is one reason why the US has elected the wrecking crew that is about to take office. Mr Obama could not channel rage. Mr Trump, alas, can.



thanks for sharing a link that shows a POTUS admitting things didn't go as expected .. and how a partisan person attempted to use it again out of contex . show this to Trump so he may learn how to be honest

By itself, the stimulus bill saved or created an average of 1.6 million jobs a year for four years through the end of 2012,


More than 40,000 miles of roads and more than 2,700 bridges have been upgraded, nearly 700 drinking water systems serving more than 48 million people have been brought into compliance with federal clean water standards and high-speed Internet was introduced to about 20,000 community institutions.

Half of the total fiscal support for the economy, or about $689 billion, from the recovery act and subsequent measures was in the form of tax cuts directed mostly at families. The remainder was spent on such things as rebuilding roads and bridges, preventing teacher layoffs and providing temporary help for people who lost their jobs or needed other assistance because of the poor economy.

"So are you suggesting it did nothing ?"

I am suggesting it didn't do much, despite spending 750 billion.

"what were your expectations? "

My expectations were that it wouldn't do much, so it met my expectations. It fell far short of Obama's expectations.

"are you saying Obama lied"

No, I am suggesting he was catastrophically wrong. As usual.

The economy got a lot better during his term. Not much of that was because of his stimulus bill. More was because o flow interest rates and quantitative easing. I don't know a single person who personally benefitted form that stimulus. Almost all of us, are benefitting from the tax overhaul.

"thanks for sharing a link that shows a POTUS admitting things didn't go as expected "

He was laughing. He thought it was funny that the "shovel ready jobs promise" was a false promise. It took us $750 billion to learn that he didn't know what he was talking about.

"and how a partisan person attempted to use it again out of contex"

Oh, out of context again. All criticisms of Trump are in the proper context, all criticisms are taken out of context somehow.

He said that if we spent 750b, unemployment would stay below 8%. We spent the money, and unemployment shot up over 10%.

"Half of the total fiscal support for the economy, or about $689 billion, from the recovery act and subsequent measures was in the form of tax cuts directed mostly at families"

I don't know a single family who got a tax cut as a result of the Obama stimulus, never heard anyone make that claim. I guess you took it out of context.

back to the topic
After Election Day, Obama ordered the U.S. intelligence community to issue a public report about the Russian scheme. Once it had — and concluded Russia's attack was aimed at helping Trump and hurting Clinton — the United States imposed a slate of punitive measures against Moscow. In addition to imposing new sanctions, Washington also expelled a number of Russian diplomats and closed two Russian diplomatic compounds in Maryland and New York.

As of today no action by the Trump administration except Trump blaming others on twitter


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Question: If all of the Russian meddling took place during the Obama Administration, right up to January 20th, why aren’t they the subject of the investigation? Why didn’t Obama do something about the meddling? Why aren’t Dem crimes under investigation? Ask Jeff Sessions!

In an exchange with a member of a Russian delegation, McMaster said "with the FBI indictment, the evidence is now incontrovertible" of Russia's cyber disruption and meddling.

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General McMaster forgot to say that the results of the 2016 election were not impacted or changed by the Russians and that the only Collusion was between Russia and Crooked H, the DNC and the Dems. Remember the Dirty Dossier, Uranium, Speeches, Emails and the Podesta Company!

No I don't think POTUS has done much to deter Russian interference in past or for future elections, which I thought was the subject of this thread, before it went off track as usual. Russia loves Trump, Trump loves Russia and their money and while you can't ever possibly prove it influenced the results of the election; I suspect it probably helped him more than he wants to admit.

Game show politics, at times it wants to make me throw up in my mouth. I think yesterday or the day before I saw where he ended up in the voting (can't remember the organization) of all past presidents, but if he wasn't dead last; he was close to it. I was frankly surprise at high up Bill Clinton still was, GW and old Abraham still high on the list of course. I wish Trump would get off his fixation the with past and govern; do something that will last and make a difference. The apprentice mentality and the thin skinned approach is getting old.

He nominated Neal Gorsuch.

The economy is absolutely soaring, stocks up, unemployment down.

Tax reform is helping regular people.

ISIS is getting pummeled.

Trump defied conservative orthodoxy, and is asking for things like bump stocks to be banned. When was the last time a POTUS went against his party like that on a big ticket agenda item? I respect that move.


His personality is gross. I like his results.

And now it looks like McMaster is next on the chopping block.

I'm becoming increasingly concerned Trump is sick of people with any competency and is going to stuff the White House with yes men who will support a war so Trump can show the world how tough he is.

Well he certainly is setting things up so Article 25 is highly improbable
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Trump administration finally announces Russia sanctions over election meddling


the only person missing for this announcement was The POTUS himself

He has made no public statements against the Russians Verbally or via twitter

I guess you need to be an American or in his administration get attacked by Trump verbally or via twitter :kewl:

You do have an insatiable passion for guessing.

The Trump White House is starting to remind me of the movie Being There and what would have happened if Peter Sellers was elected president.
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So you have have seen Trump publicly admonish Russia or Putin on theses issues ? in any format

oh snap look another tweet
Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI - A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!I would



I guess this didn't happen either

The White House has denied that Trump ever had an affair with Daniels.


President Donald Trump seek $20 million in damages...based on an agreement that he and Mr. Cohen claim Mr. Trump never was a party to and knew nothing about?

I think Hillary fell down some stairs again....

Keep on guessin'

They are all corrupt. Keep in mind that Trump, Hillary, Bernie et al. were just more corrupt and more powerful than the rest.

"Power corrupts;" That's why we had better not give up our constitutional protections against unlimited government--because "absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Unless the inspector has something really bad on McCabe that hasn't been revealed this really looks ugly. Lifelong Republican, top career agent, key witness for an obstruction case. You do the math...

Funny thing is with this lawsuit Trump admitted he was the pseudonym on the non-disclosure.

I think that's a pretty negative view of a lot of people trying to do good things. Clinton may be a bad candidate and a little aloof but I think she has good intentions. Bernie isn't corrupt, just a little wacky.

Trump? Perhaps the most corrupt POTUS we've ever had.

I don't buy the everybody does it defense either...at least the GOP is a lot better at it.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/17/u...imes&smtyp=cur

Trump never tells the truth.

apparently you've fallen down some stairs recently too...

"The odds are high that an indictment will be forthcoming for Andrew McCabe. As the ever alert Sundance of Conservative Treehouse points out, the statement on his firing by A.G. Sessions specifically noted that he "lacked candor" (the FBI's expression for lying) "under oath."

After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department's Office of the Inspector General (OIG) provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI's Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR).

The FBI's OPR then reviewed the report and underlying documents and issued a disciplinary proposal recommending the dismissal of Mr. McCabe. Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions."

So the undermining of the FBI is being done by the FBI.

omg

because...the alternative is still much ...much ...worse

It's just the flip side of 8 years of "Bush's Fault"

If they had evidence that he should be prosecuted why wouldn't they just indict him instead of firing him?

Sessions didn't have to fire him, he was just protecting his job and some argue he did it to keep the Muller investigation going.

that is you speculating...which...well....

No it is not. Bad analogy. Bush was president and the impact of his policies were clearly in effect and are still being dealt with. It is the flip side of bringing up McCain every time someone brought up factual information about Obama. Oh, right... that didn't really happen.

Why does the Mueller team have 13 hardened Democrats, some big Crooked Hillary supporters, and Zero Republicans? Another Dem recently added...does anyone think this is fair? And yet, there is NO COLLUSION!

Shocking not really just another tweet log on the obstruction fire

back to back incoherent posts...that's pretty good! :laugha:

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Your inability to understand a post does not indicate the post was incoherent. :uhoh:

"Libonics" :laugha:

he's been in drive by mode for a while .. and not up to speed on Trumps twitter feed..

these are the top comments from breitbart about Putins re election and we shouldn't be surprised why they do care Trump loves Putin

I do not care what the corrupt Western Media says. Putin is a good man whose country has embraced traditional morality and national pride. There are not many LGBT feminist, or abrasive minorities that plague Russia. Maybe we could learn something from them.

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Nabukuduriuzhur superk 99 • 18 hours ago
Plus his no-tolerance for terrorism.

By contrast, the AP actively supports the Chechens, even after they slaughtered hundreds of school children and dozens of people in a theater, plus doing terrorist acts throughout Armenia, Azerbaijan, Georgia, and other nations.

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ArgEntum Nabukuduriuzhur • 16 hours ago
Russia used to arrest and sentence to prison ISIS fighters returning from Middle East
Russia does not accept any Muslim invaders masquerading as refugees

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ricocat1 ArgEntum • 13 hours ago
Vladimir Putin is fighting for Russia just as Donald Trump is fighting for the United States. Neither one is a wimpy Muslim-appeasing globalist.

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