[QUOTE=Jim in CT;1141979]
Who was advocating for the welfare that broke up the black nuclear family? The Tea Party? The Amish? Or Democrats?[\QUOTE]
That radical liberal democrat LBJ in concert with Congress and he did it without twitting by being a great negotiator.
He was such a liberal guy you know.
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How about CT taxes, Spence? No harm done to anyone?

When the day comes that my worldview renders me completely unable to answer a question that simple, that's the day I change my worldview.

I'm sure I took DPM out of context.

I take it all back about welfare, Spence. Since most large urban cities are controlled by liberals, and clearly all cities (Detroit comes to mind, also Hartford and Bridgeport) are obviously far nicer today than they were 50 years ago, you are right, liberalism hasn't harmed anybody. Nope.

But don't forget the democrats had control of the house and senate at that time and actually enacted legislation, unlike the current administration.
Now if that is good or bad is another story.:deadhorse:

Jim
You made me look up Connecticut and see where it stands
Highest per capita income
Highest median income
Highest Human development index, whatever that is
I would assume it might have the highest taxes depending on how you look at the statistics
And it's population is not shrinking, so what have the evil liberals have done to it?

Murders are not accidents.

From a policy perspective, the illegal should not have been in this country.

It's not-fathering while black.

There was no USA in 1500. Ergo, you are considering international stats. If we start at 700 to 1500, internationally, Asians and Africans, and Arabs, I'm guessing, had the most unlawful (depending on who's "law" was being broken) killings meant to terrorize people in order to eliminate opposition to political (depending on your notion of politics) occupation or to submit populations to the political power of the invaders.

Actually, Federal welfare is a giveback to Progressivism. There is actually no enumerated power in the Constitution to provide federal welfare income to anybody. Federal welfare began under the hyper-Progressive FDR administration.

There is no, actual, constitutional restriction against Federal immigration policies which exclude immigrants or imposing quotas. Activist Judges legislated from the Bench.

As far as Jim took DPM's quote, he is correct. As far as the rest of what DPM wanted, that did not happen, so we're stuck with how far Jim took it.

Since you’re going to spin to fit your viewpoint as usual let’s call it the Americas
The European viewpoint has always been that the other races, religions, peoples were bad and needed to be conquered, our viewpoint and others perception is still that.
You have written here that Muslims are trying to conquer the world and we need to do it first. Or is my understanding of what you have posted incorrect
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I have said that the fundamental Islam as portrayed in the Koran, the Hadith, and the Sunna believes that the world is to be made Islamic. I don't recall saying that we needed to do it first. I don't believe we should conquer the world.

I said very explicitly, that conservatism has hurt people. No ideology is perfect. For the 100th time (it's getting tiring, so please try and pay attention) I was responding to Spence, who asked Detbuch who has ever been harmed by progressive ideas? Spence is very clearly under the impression that no one has ever suffered because of liberalism, and I pointed out examples to the contrary. That's all I was doing. I agree with liberals on some big issues (gay marriage, death penalty), but all I was doing here, was pointing out that people have been hurt because of progressive ideology.

Highest per capita income - mostly due to our proximity to Manhattan, but little to do with high taxes

Highest median income - mostly due to our proximity to Manhattan, but little to do with high taxes


As to the population exodus, enjoy...

http://www.courant.com/opinion/edito...htmlstory.html

http://www.courant.com/opinion/edito...102-story.html

http://ctboom.com/cts-exodus-problem...an-we-thought/

https://patch.com/connecticut/newcan...us-connecticut

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrJ...r0dNb0.lAya.s-

I think if you and Detbuch would just admit to being racists who want to conquer the world...he might be happy.......:spin:

"have the evil liberals have done to it"

You mentioned high incomes. Connecticut's citizens, on average, are doing well, because we have a large number of extremely wealthy people skewing the numbers. In any event, the financlal health of our citizenry id OK. The financial health of the state, is horrible.

Two additional things...the liberals have racked up debt of 75 billion, which is 25,000 for every human in the state. That is causing towns to cut back on spending, in my town we are laying off teachers and cutting music form the middle schools. All thanks to glorious, flawless liberalism.

And here, you'll see that 4 of the 100 most dangerous cities in the nation, are Hartford, New Haven, New London, and Bridgeport. Guess which political party has run each of those cities for 40 years?

http://dailycampus.com/stories/2015/...ngerous-cities

Yep, that's me. I'm a racist Cossack.

As i said before and now I'm wondering if you are doing anything about it other than making sure nobody got anything wrong on the internet?
If the taxes in your state are too high or you feel something is wrong there you can get involved in politics, move or whine about it.
There is one thing you can't do and I understand you can't move.
But you can be involved in our democracy and things might slowly change.
No promises that it will change the way you want but you will have done what you could.
Vermont is close to being in the same place, hopefully more because of a greying population. And so far 2 of my 5 children have moved out of state, not to Connecticut.

I would think all that wealth would trickle down, your answer on recent tax cuts was what's good for the wealthy helps those with lower incomes.:angel:

This will be my last post, I'll give you the last word on it.

I am fully aware of my options. I didn't post about CT taxes to ask for help dealing with them. I posted about CT taxes, as a response to the notion that liberalism has never hurt anybody.

I am involved in state and local politics, trying to effect change. The state of CT is slowly but surely, taking a turn to the right, as more people are realizing (despite what Spence believes) what a disaster 40 years of liberalism has been., The state senate is tied at 18 republicans, 18 democrats. The democrats lead in the house was 77 seats 4 years ago, now, it's 7 seats.

And if you and Spence feel that liberalism has never hurt anyone, think of my position. I could move to NH and have almost $1,000 a month more to spend on my kids,. Over the next 4 decades of my life, that is a small fortune. I could do a ton more for my children if I moved. Unfortunately, I am also burdened by the fact that my elderly parents, who will never move, depend on me (more accurately, they depend on my wife, who is home during the day) to help them with daily tasks.

So, thanks to being (1) a person who cares about others and (2) who lives in a radically liberal state, I am in the awesome position of having to choose between my responsibility to my kids, and my responsibility to my parents. No matter what I do, thanks to liberals, I screw people I love. It's a swell position to be in, let me tell you. So when Spence says liberalism has never caused anyone to suffer, well, I beg to differ.

The thread is now all yours.