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detbuch 06-25-2018 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1145304)
And they haven't been getting deported before Trump?

I was answering Pet F's sarcastic post. Was I supposed to include a complete history as well?

It’s not just that the policy is different, the entire agenda is different.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
exactly my point as well

I agree that the agenda is fundamentally different. And I believe that difference is good for a reversal of the Progressive trend and an inching back to the constitutional framework.

some comments from His Base

The US Military can have the Southern Border totally sealed off in a month.
Nothing in or out along the Southern Border. Unless its Invaders from South of the Border being dropped into Old Mexico.

And Trump should order the Military to seal it off.
We are in a defacto war with Mexico right now.


They are invading. They are using their Military to assist with the invasion.

Stop all immigration from subhuman, Third World, shytholes. It's time we stop pretending that non-Europeans and non-East Asians have the ability to live in civilized societies.

and they will let Trump do as he pleases

You can pick and choose comments from different parts of what you consider his base--and disregard comments from other parts of his base--and you become the kind of person you mock when you point out selected quotes of "conservatives."

wdmso 06-25-2018 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1145318)
You can pick and choose comments from different parts of what you consider his base--and disregard comments from other parts of his base--and you become the kind of person you mock when you point out selected quotes of "conservatives."


Please feel free to post from other segments of his Base that sound reasonable because I havent read any
Or do you consider Waw Waw Waw comments as from other parts of the Base

JohnR 06-25-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1145337)
Please feel free to post from other segments of his Base that sound reasonable because I havent read any
Or do you consider Waw Waw Waw comments as from other parts of the Base


Not part of his base but knowing people that are they think that following the law and not breaking border / immigration law is a good start.

Crossing border illegally is breaking the law. Fundamental. How hard was that?

spence 06-25-2018 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1145341)
Crossing border illegally is breaking the law. Fundamental. How hard was that?

Seeking asylum is perfectly legal. How hard is that?
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wdmso 06-25-2018 05:26 PM

Who says don't secure the border... more right wing false information I guess being humane and treating people with dignity is to much to expect from this administration and republicans in general and the USA

Slipknot 06-25-2018 05:29 PM

so people who want to come here and have applied for it legally, just need to state that they want asylum to cut in the front of the line? I get it. That is much faster and easier than doing it the proper way. And here I thought there is a border for a reason. Yep, loophole asylum = no border, no green card needed, just cut in line. I bet the folks who paid the fees and applied legally are fine with that.

JohnR 06-25-2018 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145342)
Seeking asylum is perfectly legal. How hard is that?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

You apply for asylum at a border crossing or within a year of entry to the US. How do you prove your year of entry if you don't have a stamped passport?

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1145344)
Who says don't secure the border... more right wing false information I guess being humane and treating people with dignity is to much to expect from this administration and republicans in general and the USA

You secure a border by preventing people from illegally crossing it - you don't secure a border by saying that guy looks like a nice guy so we'll let him cross and that guy looks like a terrorist so him, we'll block.

Being humane and treating with dignity? So what you are saying is that we should reward people that cross and violate the laws?

Personally I think we should have strict border control and let more people through the front door. Wayne - do you think that would be a better way to go? Rather than having a whole class of people underground? What would be wrong with that?

The Dad Fisherman 06-25-2018 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145342)
Seeking asylum is perfectly legal. How hard is that?
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Seeking asylum and being granted asylum are two different things.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

scottw 06-26-2018 06:34 AM

Spence wants open borders.....:bgi:

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1145372)
Spence wants open borders.....:bgi:

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-uyh5p7YvL-...rders_Meme.jpg

PaulS 06-26-2018 07:30 AM

Thanks Pres. Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/25/u...-article-click

Nebe 06-26-2018 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145358)
Seeking asylum and being granted asylum are two different things.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

You should know. Butler Mental Hospital almost cured you of your paranoia of empty beer can disorder. :rotfl:
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 1145376)
You should know. Butler Mental Hospital almost cured you of your paranoia of empty beer can disorder. :rotfl:
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

The key word being "Almost"

scottw 06-26-2018 07:47 AM

ohh..PLEASE let Maxine Waters be the democrat nominee to run against trump next go round......

Pete F. 06-26-2018 07:56 AM

Just another lovely Trump supporter and I am sure it has nothing to do with his rhetoric.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/394...in-viral-video

Sea Dangles 06-26-2018 08:33 AM

Perfect example of party unity here. Two guys,we will call them Paul and Pete. They have an agenda to make the president look bad at any cost. They don't care if one posts the worst person acting like a fool because they don't read anything already posted. Look away Dixieland.
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The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1145375)

325,000,000 people in the country and you find a video of an a-hole and of course....Trumps Fault. :rolleyes:

I'm sure she was all puppy dogs and rainbows, and volunteered her free time at the free clinic, before Trump became president...then....BOOM....she became a racist POS after 2016.

pretty sure that is 60+ years of being an a-hole you are witnessing there. Makes more sense to blame George Wallace for that than Trump

Great example of......nothing

spence 06-26-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145384)
325,000,000 people in the country and you find a video of an a-hole and of course....Trumps Fault.

Article says she mentioned Trump and pretty much parroted him word for word.

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I'm sure she was all puppy dogs and rainbows, and volunteered her free time at the free clinic, before Trump became president...then....BOOM....she became a racist POS after 2016
If you don't think Trump hasn't used bigotry, hatred and racial animosity to rile his base with lies I don't know what rock you've been hiding under. That some just write it off as nothing is shameful.

PaulS 06-26-2018 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1145383)
Perfect example of party unity here. Two guys,we will call them Paul and Pete. They have an agenda to make the president look bad at any cost. They don't care if one posts the worst person acting like a fool because they don't read anything already posted. Look away Dixieland.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

As I said - nothing to add except criticizing other people's posts. I'm sure John will give you grandmother moderator status here if you want.

PaulS 06-26-2018 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145384)
Great example of......nothing

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145385)
Article says she mentioned Trump and pretty much parroted him word for word.Exactly why I posted it. Same words Trump has used in the past

NM

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145385)
Article says she mentioned Trump and pretty much parroted him word for word.

Again, 325,000,000 and this is one a-hole. She is not representative as you would like everybody to believe. She was 60 years in the making, that did not happen overnight.


Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145385)
If you don't think Trump hasn't used bigotry, hatred and racial animosity to rile his base with lies I don't know what rock you've been hiding under. That some just write it off as nothing is shameful.

Did I say that, no

but when you throw out 1 video and go "See, See I told you this is Trumps America" that is pretty shameless as well.

Thought it was stupid when people threw out that video of the black woman saying that Obama is going to give us all free stuff and tried to pass that off as representative of Obama's base....this is no different.

Pete F. 06-26-2018 10:21 AM

Even as the court upheld the ban, chief justice John Roberts criticised Trump, and emphasised the importance of the principle of religious non-discrimination in US history.

“The president of the United States possesses an extraordinary power to speak to his fellow citizens and on their behalf,” Roberts wrote. “Our presidents have frequently used that power to espouse the principles of religious freedom and tolerance on which this nation was founded.”

Roberts pointed out that George W Bush defended “the true faith of Islam” after the September 11 attacks and said America is “a great country because we share the same values of respect and dignity and human worth”.

“Yet it cannot be denied,” Roberts wrote, “that the federal government and the presidents who have carried its laws into effect have – from the nation’s earliest days – performed unevenly in living up to those inspiring words.”
What’s happening in this country is not good.
Talking about the issues is one thing, calling people names and using alternative facts is quite different
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scottw 06-26-2018 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1145390)

Even as the court upheld the ban


Talking about the issues is one thing

Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device


you left out the headline....

US supreme court upholds Trump's travel ban
Blow to anti-discrimination advocates as justices rule 5-4 in favor of Trump administration after months of legal battles

talk about taking selective quotes to create a narrative...geeze....

Pete F. 06-26-2018 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1145394)
you left out the headline....

US supreme court upholds Trump's travel ban
Blow to anti-discrimination advocates as justices rule 5-4 in favor of Trump administration after months of legal battles

talk about taking selective quotes to create a narrative...geeze....

What did the travel ban have to do with this discussion?
John Roberts pointed comment regarding Trumps leadership does

scottw 06-26-2018 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1145395)

What did the travel ban have to do with this discussion?

I wondered that when you linked the article:1poke:

oh that's right, this thread is about leftist's hysteria

:hihi:

scottw 06-26-2018 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1145395)

John Roberts pointed comment regarding Trumps leadership does

which one?

spence 06-26-2018 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145389)
Again, 325,000,000 and this is one a-hole. She is not representative as you would like everybody to believe. She was 60 years in the making, that did not happen overnight.

I see these videos, the thousands at campaign rallies screaming with rage at Trump saying basically the same thing, the increasing confidence of white supremacists etc... etc...

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145398)
I see these videos, the thousands at campaign rallies screaming with rage at Trump saying basically the same thing, the increasing confidence of white supremacists etc... etc...

I'm going to take a little liberty with some Hyperbole.

But say you witnessed a 100,000 people frothing at the mouth at his rallies, that number would only represent .03% of the population. (325,700,000)

That same number would only be .16% of the people who voted for him (62,980,160)

But yet, people have no problem posting up videos of a few of people on YouTube being ignorant A-holes and saying this is Trumps America.

Its Shameful and Irresponsible.

scottw 06-26-2018 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1145398)
I see these videos, the thousands at campaign rallies screaming with rage at Trump saying basically the same thing, the increasing confidence of white supremacists etc... etc...

try to get a grip...I'm concerned for you

spence 06-26-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145399)
I'm going to take a little liberty with some Hyperbole.

A little? Just listen to the POTUS again...it's all there.

PaulS 06-26-2018 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145399)
I'm going to take a little liberty with some Hyperbole.

But say you witnessed a 100,000 people frothing at the mouth at his rallies, that number would only represent .03% of the population. (325,700,000)

That same number would only be .16% of the people who voted for him (62,980,160)

But yet, people have no problem posting up videos of a few of people on YouTube being ignorant A-holes and saying this is Trumps America.

Its Shameful and Irresponsible.

I don't think she is representative of all of his voters (although a higher % of the people who attend his rallies as they do seem very angry) but how much time has been spent here on Samantha Bee, Hillary's deplorable statement (even though she apologized, Obama's clingers or gotta stop hating statement, or when someone posts a video of a Dem. who is disenchanted?

I think you're ignoring the fact that her words are pretty much exactly what Trump has said at his rallies. MAGA.

Pete F. 06-26-2018 12:30 PM

He never incites anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIs2L2nUL-0

Pete F. 06-26-2018 12:36 PM

those liberals are making it up
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...=.9fe4ddf8174d

JohnR 06-26-2018 12:41 PM

Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1145403)
I don't think she is representative of all of his voters (although a higher % of the people who attend his rallies as they do seem very angry) but how much time has been spent here on Samantha Bee, Hillary's deplorable statement (even though she apologized, Obama's clingers or gotta stop hating statement, or when someone posts a video of a Dem. who is disenchanted?

I think you're ignoring the fact that her words are pretty much exactly what Trump has said at his rallies. MAGA.

Not ignoring anything, most people are in agreement that he's not got a lot going in the Morals department.

The point is, these types of folks have been around for years, and they will, sadly, be around for years to come. Whoever the sitting president is, they don't create these people.

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1145409)
Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??

I most certainly can

The Dad Fisherman 06-26-2018 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1145406)

Never said he didn't.

Now Maxine Waters has a couple under her belt, are the same people that are disgusted with Trump, disgusted with her as well? Or Do 2 wrongs make a right?

PaulS 06-26-2018 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145412)

Now Maxine Waters has a couple under her belt, are the same people that are disgusted with Trump, disgusted with her as well? Or Do 2 wrongs make a right?

I don't know exactly what she said but I have an idea - it was stupid. Dem. leadership is calling her out for it.

Pete F. 06-26-2018 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1145412)
Never said he didn't.

Now Maxine Waters has a couple under her belt, are the same people that are disgusted with Trump, disgusted with her as well? Or Do 2 wrongs make a right?

She's not President.
Sorry but I think there might be a higher standard.
Just like I think we should have a higher standard to be one of a hundred Senators than one of 435 representatives all representing the 325 million people who live in the USA.

spence 06-26-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1145409)
Can we agree that both sides fan the flames to stir their base??

Ah the old everybody does it argument. There's no parity here, not even close.


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