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Pete F. 11-08-2018 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155052)
You forgot the part about them being killed if they stay home. Partially due to wars the US helped instigate decades ago.
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What are you insinuating that history counts?
Not in the world of real estate/Trump
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detbuch 11-08-2018 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155050)
People here trying to equate a handful of antifa with latent and overt racism and white nationalism. Trump has you.

Perhaps we should just start tossing out bread crumbs.

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Your minimizing them as a handful (the article that PaulS posted said they were not a monolith but a part of various groups under the same umbrella) shows your bias.

And the "trying" here is not equating but associating. The constant association of Trump, or "Conservatives" with racism and white nationalism is an obvious construct for political ends. It's always a loose, fabricated connection. I'll directly ask you as I did Ian. Do you believe Trump is a racist, or a white nationalist, or anti-Semitic, or misogynist?

detbuch 11-08-2018 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 1155056)
It’s not your words I was referring to... the video is from Judicial watch and literally says “what the mainstream media won’t tell you”

I am going out on a limb here and saying this isn’t the most unbiased source for information on this topic
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If you are only going to watch unbiased videos, then don't watch any that involve political viewpoints. Fox News (who were part of uncovering the facts in this video and broadcasting them) is not more biased than CNN or NBC or ABC. Maybe you just shouldn't watch or read any news outlet.

In this case, you're choosing to be willfully uninformed.

detbuch 11-08-2018 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Ian (Post 1155055)
Honestly, I don’t think they vote
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That's incredible. But it is a convenient cop out.

Sea Dangles 11-08-2018 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155050)
People here trying to equate a handful of antifa with latent and overt racism and white nationalism. Trump has you.

Perhaps we should just start tossing out bread crumbs.

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Jeff, if you were less biased and honest then you would just admit both sides do it. You have an infatuation with trying to prove one side does it more, or worse. This is where you lose credibility ,like most of the real snowflakes.
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Sea Dangles 11-08-2018 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155052)
You forgot the part about them being killed if they stay home. Partially due to wars the US helped instigate decades ago.
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Jeff, the Indians are not getting their land back and we will not be sending all the colored people back to Mother Africa. So stop.
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detbuch 11-08-2018 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155044)
I think the truth is closer to this
From the editor of The Week
When the white nationalist accused of killing 11 people arrived at an emergency room with several bullet wounds, he shouted, “I want to kill all the Jews!” The doctor and nurse attending him were Jewish, the hospital’s president, Dr Jeffrey Cohen belongs to the tree of life congregation Bowers attacked. They tended to Bowers as they would any patient. “We’re here to take care of sick people” Cohen said. You do what you think is right.
Cohen made a point of talking to Bowers, to see what kind of person would turn a AR15 on grandfathers and grandmothers and two disabled men.
He saw not a monster, but a “very lost guy” who’d listened to the “noise” telling him that white Christian America was being invaded by Jews, by a caravan of Central Americans, by foreign vermin.
Words mean things, Cohen said, Words are leading people to do things like this.
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Dr. Cohen's words (noise) mean things. They might lead another anti-Semite to kill some more Jews. Referring to some "noise" that America was being invaded by Jews in the caravan could get more Jews killed.

Pete F. 11-08-2018 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1155066)
Jeff, the Indians are not getting their land back and we will not be sending all the colored people back to Mother Africa. So stop.
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See what happens when you blow a dogwhistle
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detbuch 11-08-2018 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155068)
See what happens when you blow a dogwhistle
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Sometimes you see through the lens of what you consider the truth, other times you rely on dog whistles.

spence 11-08-2018 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1155065)
Jeff, if you were less biased and honest then you would just admit both sides do it. You have an infatuation with trying to prove one side does it more, or worse. This is where you lose credibility ,like most of the real snowflakes.
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By your logic both my neighbor’s yards are weedy even though one has a few thistles and the other hasn’t been mown in a year. How about a little analysis Chris. Take in a few variables and use the thinker. No honest observer can claim parity here.

As for the snowflake stuff, it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does me.
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spence 11-08-2018 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155068)
See what happens when you blow a dogwhistle
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I’m hiding the breadcrumbs.
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Sea Dangles 11-09-2018 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1155074)
By your logic both my neighbor’s yards are weedy even though one has a few thistles and the other hasn’t been mown in a year. How about a little analysis Chris. Take in a few variables and use the thinker. No honest observer can claim parity here.

As for the snowflake stuff, it says a hell of a lot more about you than it does me.
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Just more proof of #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&s turning a blind eye to their transgressions. Thanks for proving my point Jeff,your still unraveled I see.
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PaulS 11-09-2018 10:21 AM
I forgot to say the people bothering Tucker C. are idiots.

Pete F. 11-09-2018 10:24 AM
“The candidates who delivered the House majority largely hailed from the political center, running on clean-government themes and promises of incremental improvement to the health care system rather than transformational social change.”
NYT
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Pete F. 11-09-2018 10:56 AM
Some People know Trump
Jack O’Donnell is the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino
"On Wednesday, the day after a midterm cycle dominated by President Trump’s divisive fear-mongering about immigrants invading our country, I listened as he told another of the lies for which has become so notorious. During his White House news conference he said, “I’ve never used racist remarks.”

I know the real Trump better than most. For 3½ years, I worked in almost daily contact with him at the highest levels of the Atlantic City casino empire over which he once held sway. I saw him treat black people and minorities as inferior. I heard him say vulgar, bigoted things and I rebuked him for them. But he did not quit. Indeed, he has continued it to this day."

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...fferent-222314

detbuch 11-09-2018 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155117)
Some People know Trump
Jack O’Donnell is the former president of Trump Plaza Hotel & Casino
"On Wednesday, the day after a midterm cycle dominated by President Trump’s divisive fear-mongering about immigrants invading our country, I listened as he told another of the lies for which has become so notorious. During his White House news conference he said, “I’ve never used racist remarks.”

I know the real Trump better than most. For 3½ years, I worked in almost daily contact with him at the highest levels of the Atlantic City casino empire over which he once held sway. I saw him treat black people and minorities as inferior. I heard him say vulgar, bigoted things and I rebuked him for them. But he did not quit. Indeed, he has continued it to this day."

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...fferent-222314
I just can't get worked up by articles like this to care. The history of Presidents that exactly fit the profile of the Trump your author portrays, yet who were considered great because of their policies, dissuades me from caring about what O'Donnell thinks. Others think differently, positively, about Trump. I don't care what they think either. It is easy to create a hero or a bogyman by selecting or exaggerating or lying about things said and done.

I care about policies. About the kind of judges that are nominated. About not stepping all over the Constitution. When Trump, or any other President or politician, goes astray on those points, that is what bothers me.

detbuch 11-09-2018 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1155115)
“The candidates who delivered the House majority largely hailed from the political center, running on clean-government themes and promises of incremental improvement to the health care system rather than transformational social change.”
NYT
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Why are those things considered the political center? Why are they not merely political views. What's so "center" about them? My opinion is that the notion of the "center" has a perceptual quality of being good and right, balanced, solid. To me, claiming political ideas to be the center is a rhetorical trick to disparage other ideas and to promote those "centrist" ideas as the good ones.


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