what one canadian said? you’re right, i don’t. you’re telling me that if i posted something critical that a canadian said about obama, that would mean something to you?

trump isnt a perfect president, and he’s not a good guy. so who are you trying to convince here?

i notice that canadian jackass didn’t say anything about unemployment. god forbid we judge trump honestly. tou can be honest, and still critical. i do it all the time. you people are deranged, totally consumed with loathing.
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The guy isn’t happy unless he is throwing rocks Jim. Next thing you know he will be at the border lobbing insults at agents. Wrong party...mindless drone
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As I have said before any POTUS is judge on the totality of their actions TRUMP IS NO different you keep pointing out the good and I will keep pointing out the bad

Not sure how us people are deranged and consumed by hate by exposing Trumps lies and his actions

But your position is some how more Honorable ?

A complement comming from the Number 1 insult rock thrower on the site ...

A ture keyboard warrior

i point outmthe good
and the bad. because there is good and bad. you ignore the good and obsess about the bad. you’re irrational and deranged about the guy.

for you to say i only post the good,..i no longer have any words for that.
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Jim your all over the map... you try way to hardtop present yourself as some how objective when it comes to Trump .. I clearly am not

You say you see the bad but your obses about what litte good your can find and try to mold it in to how you see the guy ... then pat yourself on the back for your efforts to look objective

But anyone who pushes back against this image of Trump you offer ( which you are free to do by the way ) is seen as an irrational and deranged about the guy. And others

Were you looking in the mirror when you wrote that ? You do know that last line sounds like the last 8 years with you and Obama .... I doubt you see the parallels

As I said I will continue to point out trumps failings they are not hard to find and he creates them daily .. and I'll be on the look out for his positive actions ,, I might see big foot 1st but there is always a chance Trump will flip flop on something and it will be good

i don’t obsess about the good, i routinely point out the bad. again, i can i lynwinder about your reading comprehension, not sure what else it could
be. i do not avoid criticizing the guy. but he’s not Hitler either. our constitution is still completely intact, the separation of powers and checks and balances are still exactly in tact, he’s no kind of existential threat to our republic, but that’s not what you hear at cnn or nbc or msnbc.

he’s a sleazy guy, and a boorish vindictive baby. he’s also putting a LOT of blacks and hispanics back to work. liberals will not credit him for that, because they can’t give credit to someone they don’t like. if hilary had done this, she’d have a nobel prize in economics under her belt by now.

you’re irrational, and if you think i ibsessniver the good, then you don’t have any idea what the word ‘obsess’ means.

i hates just about everything about obama, his personality and his policies and his hatred for everything i care about. but i bet i didn’t dwell on him one tenth as
much as you andmoete dwell in trump. it’s something to see. nor did i have any trouble praising obama for his handling of the economy and if terrorists. he did a good job there, and i’m thankful
for it. see? that’s what being ‘objective’ looks like.
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Objectively you repeat the standard Trumplican lie about minority unemployment every time.
The data shows that unemployment continued to fall under Trump albeit at a slightly lower rate than under Obama. I would expect that given how low it is.
It will be interesting in the next two years to see what happens as the real Trump economy shows it’s colors.
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Why bother
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So you were not pleased when the remains of servicemen were finally brought home to be laid to rest ?

Too much eggnog for you today as you hit submit after a 1st grader stole your laptop.
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Clearly you see that as something special Trump did ...

I saw it for is was the duty of any POTUS to bring all service members if they can do so .. it wasn't special

So yes a positive outcome for Trumps Image ...and closure from those family's but since then he has done little to improve his image or his admistration which has a revolving door

oh it’s a lie that black unemployment is lower than ever?

you disprove that, by saying that black u employment started decreasing under obama. i never denied that. BUT ITS LOWER NOW, UNDER TRUMP. is that a lie, or is it true?
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It’s not a lie but it’s nothing as amazing as you and the rest of the Trumplicans have claimed to have a continuation of what happened to a far greater extent over the previous 6 years when Trump continually claimed the numbers were fake.
Funny that now they are not only real but worthy of braggadocio.
Pretty soon we’ll be in the Trump economy, but I’m sure any failures will be others fault.
I’ll just sit and watch you, while doing my Mike Pence imitation.
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ten seconds ago you said it was a lie. it’s mathematical fact. you just hate it. tough cookies.

and obamas killing of bi. laden was a continuation of many policies that bush put in place. but i give obama much credit. try it, try being rational and fair. you won’t die.
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Keep believing
The spin is BS, at best an exaggeration
Remember Trump said the numbers are fake, unemployment is actually much higher.
Remember all the Democrats sat and therefore Republicans like minoritys more or should be liked more by minoritys
Meanwhile Trump alienates all but his base at best, 40% of the electorate
Keep thinking Individual #1 has your best interests at heart.

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This is gibberish.

I was pleased Trump was able to bring them home. This has nothing to do with image. My guess is that there were many families and colleagues who thought it was special. But when you said you were waiting for positive action I thought this action would qualify. Would you put this action above or below trading prisoners for Bowe Bergdahl?
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As i said its the duty of any sitting POTUS to bring any service member home dead or alive ...

We leave no one behind... even Bowe Bergdahl? who was court martial and dishonorably discharged...


Found this relevant

Mr. Trump’s comments may have contributed to the decision not to sentence him to prison. After Mr. Trump seemed last month to endorse his harsh criticism from the campaign trail, Colonel Nance ruled that he would consider the comments as mitigating evidence at sentencing. some military law experts said, on the grounds that the president had unlawfully influenced the case.

if i could only believe Trump is driven by doing the right thing in what he does ...

But 99% of what he does and say's is for image ... that's his character..

all former POTUS have done and said things for image but clearly they never saw it as a way to govern as Trump see it and uses it...

So he was able to accomplish something that his predecessors could not get done. You,as is par for the course,fail to recognize that as something positive, despite the fact it heals the nation and certainly the families directly involved. No surprise here as you have an agenda to uphold. Party blind as usual. To think that you put this on the same table as negotiating with terrorists says a lot about your intellectual integrity.
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Bingo. Trump could save babies from a burning building (not that I'd expect that he'd do that), and they wouldn't give him credit. They can't, they just can't.

Poor Trumplicans, abused by everyone.
You reap, what you sow.
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Your conception of reaping is very narrow. We are reaping the fruits of the Progressive attack on the Constitution, as was warned many times. But the grab of power was far more important to them than any consequences to them and the rest of us. So now we are reaping unsustainable debt, identity politics, creation of dozens and a growing number of non-biological genders, unchecked federal power, weakening of the middle class, loss of individual rights, loss of local and state sovereignty as well as a direction of losing our nation's sovereignty to a world order, among several other things . . . including Donald Trump.

What I think Jim was commenting on was Trumps treatment in or by the media.
Where did you get the Progressive tangent from in that?
I would claim that Trump is the result of failed neo-liberal policies, myself.

We do agree on that but not merely because of failed policies. Actually successful policies have also, and more so, changed this country in ways that led to the Trump "backlash." But that would require a real, in depth discussion, not back and forth, superficial, quips.

And the moniker "neo-liberal" does not deserve the "liberal" portion. Neo-authoritarian would be far more appropriate.

when your argument is .. I have agenda to uphold what's yours insults and drive by's ?



I said it was not special .. it did give closure for those family's

unlike you I judge him on the totality of his actions not the one time he did something positive..

"To think that you put this on the same table as negotiating with terrorists says a lot about your intellectual integrity."

Seem you forgot who Trump went to visit in North korea and negotiated with to have those remains returned and you what does that say about your your intellectual integrity."

funny I saw it as POTUS duty to get thoses men home .. you see it ok for Trump to deal with Kim but Not Obama with the taliban to get an american home ... ???


U.S. Officials Meet With Taliban Again as Trump Pushes Afghan Peace Process OMG say it ain't so!!! Trump negotiates with terrorist

When you said you would be on the lookout for his positive actions I thought pointing out a positive action might be a good reminder. Instead of conceding this was a positive action you decided to say it was his duty. If Obama had done this the left would have given him the Nobel peace prize. Can it not be both his duty as well as a positive action given the fact it had been close to 50 years and none of his predecessors had fulfilled their “duty”?
The fact you characterize a deserter in the same breath as those who made the ultimate sacrifice says a mouthful about your personal integrity. Truly disgraceful.
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HW Bush deserved to be called a wimp and an adulterer? McCain deserved to be called a senile old racist? Romney deserved to be called a sexist?

Trump is an example of YOU reaping what YOU sow.

He's not a victim. Maybe you hadn't heard, but he won the election.

What's the most complimentary thing you've said about him thus far? That he's Hitler?

So how do you explain the fact that the GOP controls the white house, the senate, and a majority of state legislatures and governorships?

Is this your side, reaping what they sow? Or does that phrase only apply to the GOP when they lose, not to democrats?

Sometimes you get lucky. Republicans received far less than half of the votes cast in the midterms. Demographics are looking down for the Trumplican base. It won't hold long term, fear-mongering and division is not a way to grow a party. But your feckless leader doesn't care, since he will no longer be in office.

It applies when Trump and Trumplicans complain about their mistreatment from the many Trump has abused since he started his campaign.
Trump has been calling the media fake, anytime he did not like their coverage, since he started his campaign. Yet he expects to have them celebrate his exaggerated accomplishments without ever questioning them. As I have said many times he already praises himself more than he deserves, the man gave himself a grade higher than A+.
If you honestly think that Trump has done anything to ensure the long term viability of the Republican party, you spend too much time watching right wing media. He serves his base and does nothing to expand it.
Just look how wonderful Stephen Miller did yesterday, he is one of the least empathetic people I have ever seen, I can't believe they let him loose to speak in public. He is a living caricature of "hatred corrodes the container it is carried in".

Unlike you I don't pick and choose which Americans DESERVE TO COME HOME over others . What's it like to ride on such a high horse and to be so arrogant willing to Leave any American in the hands of an enemy . For 1 min no less 5 years

Some leader you would have made if you were ever in the service .. willing to leaving men behind and you speak of personal integrity. As if you know what it means


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The U.S. Army has prosecuted about 1,900 cases of desertion since 2001, despite tens of thousands of soldiers fleeing the service in the face of deadly combat, long and multiple deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan

To compare the two is laughable. But nice try in your effort to once again change the narrative of the discussion to one you feign outrage over. Your head must be spinning as usual. We didn’t just bring him back as you know. I also don’t remember saying or even implying that we leave him. Where do you come up with this? Get back to our discussion and stop looking for bushes to hide in.
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i see! when your side wins, it’s just reaping what you sow. when my side wins, it’s not reaping what you sow, itsbthat ugly politics of division got lucky. in all those state races, in the senate seats that flipped for the gop, there’s no message there for you side, nope.

trump bashing also won’t work forever. democrats will need an agenda other than claiming that trump is genghis khan and that we need the dems to protect us from him.
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Trump will destroy himself and the Trumplicans along with him.
Unfortunately they will take the Republican Party down with them
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The re-incarnation of Nostradamus speaks!! The Trumplicans will all be destroyed!! Sounds like a biblical prophecy.

So far, the numbers are crystal clear, Trump hasn't done anywhere near as much damage to the GOP, as Obama did to the democrats, in his first two years. No comparison in terms of seats lost, not even close. When Obama left, the democrats held fewer federal and state offices, than at any time in decades. Obama pulverized the democrats all across the map, I wonder sometimes if he was a Republican plant

The collapse you are desperate for, may happen over time. Trump is very offensive and polarizing. But the collapse you clearly yearn for, hasn't happened after two years.

If Trump runs again in 2020, the dems may have a really good night. But it's always temporary, neither side holds power unilaterally for long. After the 2008 election, Obama was in the white house, and the democrats controlled the house, and had a filibuster proof majority on the senate. Politically speaking, it was the low point of my life. It lasted a very short while.

The two parties are having trouble nominating moderates with broad appeal.

Are all Republicans Trumplicans in your eyes? Do you know how many people didn't vote for him in the primary? A lot.

And I never compared him to the fallen .. you clearly. Have “ to compare the two is laughable “ so let’s get back discussions You brought the Korean remains into the conversation and bergdahl not I

So as I said it it the duty of any sitting potus to do whatever he can do to bring home any Americans home regardless if they died In combat or not .. it’s not debatable

All service members their families and the nation must have no doubts and have confidence that USA will do what’s required to bring every one home..

once home if actions of individuals were unlawful in the eyes of the UCMJ that’s when it gets resolved.

The perception of UCMJ violations should not delay attempts at repatriation ..

Clearly you feel it was wrong of Obama to make the deal for berghdal

But no issues with Trump dealing with Kim to have those remains returned

You made the comparison sacrifice good deal / deserter bad deal

It’s very clear
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This is a discussion where you said you were waiting for a positive action from Trump. I provided the example of bringing home our fallen servicemen ,which took many years as well as many administrations to accomplish. You trivialized it.....wonder why

Wrong party is my guess.

You proceeded by smearing the accomplishment by bringing NK into the discussion despite insisting it is our duty to bring home all of our men regardless. A dizzying display of partisanship. Yes we are obligated to bring them all back. Yes it was a bad deal to bring back this deserter,we lost 6 good men bringing back a soldier who turned his back on his comrades,such a shame. Compound this by trading a handful of bad guys in order to secure the release and it is a terrible deal.
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I really want to stay out of your pissing match, but I didn't realize we sacrificed something to have the remains returned.

And, personally, I would rather we go get our captured soldier, using whatever force, "whatever he can do to bring home" as you put it, than to trade for some who have murdered us and let them be free to do so again.