lots of vague insults. not a lot of specifics as to where we’re wrong.
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He's got nothin.

defending her is a rough proposition.

Biden teasing at running. I think he’s their best shot.
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It’s not intended to be insulting, you both are just happily eating a narrative that’s being fed to you, which is intriguing given the typical tone you strike about the effect of that same tactic on groups of people you disagree with
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So if you can't dispute, you discredit, and not by facts but merely by spouting some unverified nor well thought out opinion. Your not exactly an original thinker. Could you point out to me the source that feeds me narratives? I'd like to acquaint myself with that genius.

clearly FOX as directed by the Koch brothers is feeding you two the narrative which you then cut and paste here like good little racists...:) Politics hasn't been this much fun in a long time and I think it's only going to get better

You guys are debating like she’s running for President in 2020 and while I believe her plan is financially and logistically impossible in the timeline proposed; I’d be shocked if the final democratic candidate adopts that radical a change. I would say that unless your an fool, or have your head in the sand, or just don’t give a damn about future generations; the reports (predictions) released in the last few years on climate change are going to cost far more them anyone can even quantify. AOC represents one extreme and Trump and his views and policy changes represent the other extreme; his head is in the sand when it comes to climate change.
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it’s very easy to say i’m thoughtlessly swallowing a narrative. how about telling me exactly where and why i’m wrong?

i explained why i say she’s the
most influential democrat. She has a massive following, and no matter how catastrophically stupid hernideas are, all the presidential contenders race to be the first to embrace them.

how is that wrong, exactly? you can’t make your point by saying i’m wrong. Show me i’m wrong.
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think about it this way.....the earth has been around for about 4.543 billion years and life has existed on it for about 3.8 billion years....of all of the life that has existed and been extinguished on this planet over the last 3.8 billion years(and that is an unimaginable number of lives I suppose) YOU have been fortunate to exist in human form(not a bug thankfully for you) for what is little more than a strobe's flash in time ... and also fortunate to enjoy a point in earth's history where you can sit at a keyboard communicating with people all over the planet without fear of being eaten, stepped on and squished, or otherwise killed which is the fate that most life on this planet has enjoyed over those many years..... you only have to walk to the fridge for a snack rather than rooting around the forest floor.......we are a species that ultimately only really care about ourselves individually no matter how much we claim to care about other things......it's just an attempt to convince ourselves that we...in our incredibly insignificant stay on this planet, are more important that we really are...why do people pack themselves into coffins and put a stone above the hole??? The want to remind everyone "I WAS HERE"....which is fine for a while but after a short time....nobody really cares that you were here and you are just taking up space in what could probably be a really nice golf course....we each are a speck of sand on a vast desert...no matter which direction you roll you will have no effect on that desert's eventual contour..but we can waste our time thinking that we matter or we can be grateful that we are not going to be eaten by a dinosaur today :huh:

****Disclaimer - This is only a joke, Spence****

I like the one that says..."Good News...my IQ test came back...it's negative!"

The snowflakes should be embracing her. She is a gift.
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She's a gift to the right fox and jim and all the other impressionable Conservatives who claim they are free thinkers ... AOC gives them someone to attack rather then having to defend Trump daily

they talk about the green deal as if it's going to Trump's desk to be signed .. yet they are ambivalent when it comes to Trump's end around of congress his new Budget proposal or the deBt increase ..

yet focus on The 1st year Congresswomen.. Fox runs a min of a new AOC stories daily

https://www.foxnews.com/category/per...-ocasio-cortez

18 stories in 2 days

should have to drink every time a leftist says fox....:cheers:

and Kill the glass when they say "Trump"

https://youtu.be/RGsQES_OdrQ


Pretty certain SNL is hard left leaning.
She’s talked about because she’s so stupid, it’s funny.
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"She's a gift to the right "

You finally got one right.

"AOC gives them someone to attack rather then having to defend Trump daily"

Who defends Trump here daily?

"they talk about the green deal as if it's going to Trump's desk to be signed "

All the democrats running, have endorsed it. So it's true and worth mentioning that if the democrats pick up the Senate and the White House, there's reason to believe we will be taken down that path, which would mean we'd be eating zoo animals in a month.

"yet they are ambivalent when it comes to Trump's end around of congress his new Budget proposal or the debt increase "

I have complained about the debt many, many times. It's a disaster, and some of it is Obama's doing as well. Di you care then? I am saying the same thing about the debt now, that I did when Obama was POTUS. I'll bet you didn't say chit about the debt from 09-16.

"yet focus on The 1st year Congresswomen"

She's the leader of that party at the moment. Make that wrong?

" Fox runs a min of a new AOC stories daily "

I'm not the one who blindly posts every negative story about politicians I don't like. I do it when I think it matters. If she is saying that banks are responsible for the operators of projects they finance, banks will stop lending money. Maybe you see nothing wrong with that, with your limited experience in, and knowledge of, the private sector.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ocas...-economics.amp

Oh look another AOC Story by the Trump news network

This... it’s like poetry... I couldn’t have said it better myself (so I won’t, because I’m not an original thinker)
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The WaPo just issued her a three Pinocchio rating for her comments in Trump opioid funding. This is actually an improvement over her previous rating.
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dangles, give her a break, how could she be expected to know that:

6,000,000,000 > 0?

what is this, a witch hunt?
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Exactly. Scott handed that hose over to you.

I happen to like Kool aid
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Explains a lot. But still waiting for you to reveal the source that feeds me narratives. I don't watch Fox. Re this, you responded to post #74 in this thread. Who fed me that narrative?

And as if on cue ... now They believe the WaPo Pinocchio rating when its used against AOC

But when Trump gets a bad Pinocchio rating its Fake

Just funny to see conservatives and Trump supporters screaming anyone who criticizes Trump Suffer from Trump derangement syndrome

yet are unable to self diagnose

Please point out where I said the Trump ratings are fake. This is when you typically move the goalposts or claim You were taken out of context. When you have nothing to add that helps the narrative it helps to make up stories like this. Kind of like Hillary dodging sniper fire. More lies and exaggerating to convince yourself that you are making a difference.Looks like the shoe doesn’t fit as well when the WaPo picks on your new darling.These are fun times indeed.!!!
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Whos making anything up if you ever paid attention to previous responses to Pinocchio rating... you would clearly understand my point ...

what lies and exaggerating have i used to convince myself that I am are making a difference???

I love being schooled by capt Drive by on the merits on what is a useful post and what is not ...

I am not defending AOC just pointing out how the right is obsessed with a nobody.. but yet they have appointed her the new power broker of the left .. to distract themselves from the #^&#^&#^&#^& show called the white house

For the third time, I say she's the leader of the party because of the way all the dems running for president, jumped on board her Green New Deal, instead of suggesting she get electric shock treatment.

How is that wrong? Who is more influential, and on what basis?

It's very easy to say I'm an idiot for saying she's the most influential. Try something harder, try explaining why I'm wrong?

To borrow a phrase you've liked to use, "the big picture"--you need to look at the big picture--the entire #^&#^&#^&#^& show of the federal bureaucracy, not just the White House. The reason it's so messed up, why the separation of powers, the key to making it all work, is no longer adhered to, lies at the feet of the creation of the administrative state in order to replace the constitutional one. We could discuss that . . . if you like. Doubt that you like.

The reason why the right is so excited is because she actually is the face of the Democratic Party. Not the most powerful by any stretch,but certainly the most prominent. I certainly don’t need the WaPo to make my point but I appreciate the assist. Some folks have no idea how much their lies and loyalties obscure their message,this is on display for anyone who is foolish enough to pay attention.
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I don’t know where you get your information from, but it’s gotta be from somewhere
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My post, to which you were responding, was not "information" nor was it based on information "fed" to me. It was commentary on your expressed opinion that Trump is a horrible person because of something he said in the past with the implication that Trump's personal past makes him more of a problem than AOC's present stupidity while she's in a position of public power.

I said and asked in response to your categorization of Trump's and AOC's words "What is the category of things people say that refers to past actions of someone as a representation of who he is now where there is no evidence that he does those things anymore? And for what he has apologized? And for characterizing something that is allowed as being an assault? Is there no redemption for past sins?

"If capitalism is irredeemable, are humans also not capable of redemption? If we did something "horrible" in the past are we then forever horrible?

"If there is a category for implying someone being what he once was but no longer is, it seems to me that category could charitably be referred to as misrepresentation.

"AOC is doing her stupidity NOW while in a position of political power that can influence the entire nation. Trump did what you phrase as 'horrible' (really, in its context?) in the private past. Which, of the two, is meaningful to the people of this country today?"

That commentary was not fed to me by any source. And you did not answer my question.

The reference was to you equivocating sexually predatory behavior and being a stupid politician in your statement. One is much more forgivable after an apology than the other.

Walking up to women and grabbing them in between the legs because they’ll “let you when you’re famous” is not a permitted action... that’s assault brotha. I’ll start redeeming him when he’s held accountable for the actions he has admitted to.

That being said, I passed the hose to you because you felt compelled to create an equivalency between the congresswoman’s stupidity and the president’s past transgressions to create some kind of “he did”/“she did” cancellation which I believe to be a far too frequent move by both sides of this political mess when one side or the other makes a mistake. He assaulted many women, or at least has claimed to have. Congresswoman Cortez is quickly making herself out to be a politician who doesn’t really know how the world works. They can both be wrong, but one is much worse than the other, plain and simple.
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I did not create an equivalency. Quite the contrary, Cortez's actions as Congresswoman are potentially far more destructive to the nation than what you refer to as Trump's "assaults."

Trump didn't assume that he was "assaulting." From what he's said he presumed that the "grabbing" was welcomed and allowed. And if it was rebuffed, that was the end of it. As far as I know, there was no parade of casting couch "assaults" required for advancement in Trump's business.

The bar was set with Bill Clinton, and a host of Presidents before him. That cleansed me of caring anymore about what a President did sexually. Clinton was far worse than Trump, and he did it before and while being POTUS. We were told it was not our business. And that he was a really good President. And he was not to be removed from office, but to quit harassing him about it, and it was important to the country to let him do his job. Holding Trump to a higher standard holds no interest for me.

Apparently, for you, his past private personal sex is far more important than what Cortez can do in a powerful national political office. I asked you to clarify your position, and I guess you have.

Yes, I have.
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Well, I don't remember that last time Time Magazine did an article on a junior rep after only being in office for 3 months. just saying

http://time.com/longform/alexandria-...ortez-profile/

did you see her tell the ceo of
Wels Fargo, that he’s responsible for everything done by anyone his bank gives money to? If wells fargo gives me a car loan, and i kill a pedestrian with the car, is wells fargo responsible? She thinks they are! That’s exactly how stupid she is. that’s not an exaggeration, and she’s on the finance and banking committee. Hooray!
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Time didn’t do one on Dan Crenshaw?
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