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scottw 04-25-2019 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1166220)
This thread can't get any more lame, yes I guess it can.

guess it depends on your disposition...I find it hilarious

The Dad Fisherman 04-25-2019 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1166234)
nice job...you just proved yourself completely wrong...

Effing amazing, isn't it?

His superior intellect is mind boggling


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Jim in CT 04-26-2019 05:56 AM

when you insult someone for the beliefs they hold
most dear, and then make fun of them for saying they don’t appreciate the insult, do you know what you get? Trump in the white house, hilary on a pathetic speaking tour.
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Jim in CT 04-26-2019 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1166250)
Effing amazing, isn't it?

His superior intellect is mind boggling


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it is literally amazing. he can’t just say it was a poor choice of words.
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wdmso 04-26-2019 07:56 AM

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If you guys could think for yourselves rather than than being led by your outrage machine what a better world it would be ... but please carry on thinking you've got it all figured out :btu: PS I attached Trump's Tweet on the subject you will notice easter and christians are notably absent.. and also his feelings on easter and also some example of the term Ramadan worshippers in the media

PS Remember, the same people who think Obama is a Muslim also believe Trump is a Christian

Tourists, Easter worshippers lament closure of Notre Dame Fox News)

https://www.foxnews.com/world/touris...ssion=trueNewt Gingrich

@newtgingrich
How do President Obama and Secretary Clinton both come up with Easter worshippers in their tweets about the murders in Sri Lanka? To have both of them use the same term the same day is strange. Is Easter Worshipper the left’s new way to avoid the word Christian? Pathetic

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Christians were attacked yesterday

Christians were murdered on our holiest day of the year

Hundreds of Christians

Not “humanity” not “tourists” not “Easter worshippers”

Christians

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No Obama! They're called Christians not Easter Worshippers!

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“Easter worshippers”

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The attacks on tourists and Easter worshippers in Sri Lanka are an attack on humanity. On a day devoted to love, redemption, and renewal, we pray for the victims and stand with the people of Sri Lanka.

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Tiana Lowe

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Did the DNC put out marching orders or something? They aren’t “Easter worshippers.” They’re Christians. If you want to be specific and not lump in Christians like me who observe the Julian calendar, just say Protestants and Catholics. This is not hard.

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On this holy weekend for many faiths, we must stand united against hatred and violence. I'm praying for everyone affected by today's horrific attacks on Easter worshippers and travelers in Sri Lanka.


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Easter Worshippers? This is a made up phrase. Why do liberals make up phrases like this? #TheFive

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A vehicle attacks Ramadan worshippers near a London mosque: What we know https://usat.ly/2sGxlWQ #FinsburyPark

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Vehicle attack near London mosque: What we know
Ten people were injured in the incident.

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Several injured after vehicle rams Ramadan worshippers leaving London mosque http://religionnews.com/2017/06/18/s...london-mosque/

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Sea Dangles 04-26-2019 08:11 AM

Looks like you are the one who has it figured out. Wow,what a smart fella.
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Jim in CT 04-26-2019 08:56 AM

WDMSO doesn't like it when I am outraged. But it's not similar outrage, when you post about Trump? Why is your outrage, more valid than mine, exactly?

wdmso 04-26-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1166276)
WDMSO doesn't like it when I am outraged. But it's not similar outrage, when you post about Trump? Why is your outrage, more valid than mine, exactly?

I have no issues with you being outraged its when you spew outrage of your own making or when told to


Id rather base my outrage on actually things Trump has done and said

not imaginary ones

wdmso 04-26-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1166272)
Looks like you are the one who has it figured out. Wow,what a smart fella.
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Facts and actual real statements and research tend to do that .. you should give it a try sometime :kewl:

Sea Dangles 04-26-2019 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166306)
Facts and actual real statements and research tend to do that .. you should give it a try sometime :kewl:

Is it the same research that informed you that tuition is the cheapest part of college? Because that must be some type of source that keeps you up to date.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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Jim in CT 04-26-2019 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166305)
I have no issues with you being outraged its when you spew outrage of your own making or when told to


Id rather base my outrage on actually things Trump has done and said

not imaginary ones

"its when you spew outrage of your own making "

Isn't all outrage of one's own making? You and I can both choose not to be outraged by what we see. Again, it's valid when you go on an anti-Trump rant, but not when I criticize Obama and Hilary. Why not just say it? Can't you be honest, and say that outrage is only valid if it's aimed at conservatives? Obviously that's what you believe.

"or when told to "

Oh. And who do I get my instructions from?

WDMSO, for the millionth time, I disagree with conservatives on some big issues - gay marriage, the death penalty. We would all like to know, on what bog issues, you disagree with liberals on? Let's see, between you and I, who is the thoughtless partisan, and who thinks for himself? Can we do that once and for all?

"Id rather base my outrage on actually things Trump has done and said "

I'm making this up? Obama and Hilary didn't say easter worshippers?

You're all over the place, and not making a ton of sense.

The Dad Fisherman 04-26-2019 05:49 PM

I’m not outraged, I’m just amazed I have to argue this much over facts and the English language
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wdmso 04-27-2019 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1166309)
Is it the same research that informed you that tuition is the cheapest part of college? Because that must be some type of source that keeps you up to date.🤦🏽#^&♂️
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Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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detbuch 04-27-2019 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166344)
Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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So you picked a low end tuition college, and you added the cost of two separate items to stack up against tuition. Most state colleges charge state residents the basic tuition and charge out-of-staters much more. And many of the in-staters don't have to pay room and board because they can live at home.

"The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey."

Most of the big, well known universities, including the big state colleges, have many out of state students because the influence that a degree from one of them is greater than that of the small colleges.

BTW, most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. Especially books. The Professors have a racket going of mandating that specific books are required for their courses, so books are part of the learning process for which tuition is charged. And, by coincidence, the books are often written by the professors who get a royalty from the sales.

The differentiation of fees is a way of making "tuition" appear cheaper. The necessity of paying all fees is the actual cost. The differing fees are distinctions without a difference. The whole package is the price of being educated. It's like the advertisements for the price of a new car. By the time you add up the "fees" the actual price of the car is considerably more.

Sea Dangles 04-27-2019 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=wdmso;1166344]Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
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Silly me
I guess you are right again.
Smart fella I tell ya.
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detbuch 04-27-2019 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166344)
Bridgewater's state university
Tution 8400
Books room and board 15,300
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

What you did was very disingenuous. Out of all the most considered schools in Massachusetts, you picked the only one that seemed to support what you say. All the others totally debunk what you say. Tuition and fees far outweigh not only the other individual costs, but even their total costs. See chart below:

2019 Tuition, Fees, and Living Costs Comparison Between Most Considered Schools in Massachusetts

School Name
Tuition & Fees
Cost Per Credit Hour
Books & Supplies
Living Costs
In-State
Out-of-State
In-State
Out-of-State
On Campus
Off Campus

Boston CollegeChestnut Hill, MA
$55,464
-
$1,976
$1,250
$16,378
$13,000

Boston UniversityBoston, MA
$53,948
-
$1,650
$1,000
$17,670
$17,670

Brandeis UniversityWaltham, MA
$55,395
-
$1,664
$1,000
$16,940
$13,500

Bridgewater State UniversityBridgewater, MA
$10,367
$16,507
$405
$661
$800
$15,644
$15,844

Harvard UniversityCambridge, MA
$50,420
-
$1,448
$1,000
$20,230
-

Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyCambridge, MA
Tuition Information is not available

Northeastern UniversityBoston, MA
$51,522
-
$1,577
$1,000
$18,070
$18,680

Suffolk UniversityBoston, MA
$38,566
-
$1,130
$1,200
$18,105
$21,076

Tufts UniversityMedford, MA
$56,382
-
$1,724
$1,000
$16,118
$16,118

Williams CollegeWilliamstown, MA
$55,450
-
$1,838
$800
$16,950
-

Average
$10,367
$48,184
$405
$1,519
$1,006
$17,345
$16,555
Number of schools to show 1 of 1 Pages Prev Next
*The data for academic year 2018-2019 is from IPEDS (The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System),U.S. Department of Education.
**Information is not available for schools that are not appeared in the table. The schools have not report the information to the IPEDS or not applicable.)

Plus everyone has "living costs" regardless of whether they attend school or not. So the total for living costs, room and board, etc. does not account for what the costs would be even if school was not attended.

wdmso 04-28-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1166345)
So you picked a low end tuition college, and you added the cost of two separate items to stack up against tuition. Most state colleges charge state residents the basic tuition and charge out-of-staters much more. And many of the in-staters don't have to pay room and board because they can live at home.

"The average cost of tuition and fees for the 2018–2019 school year was $35,676 at private colleges, $9,716 for state residents at public colleges and $21,629 for out-of-state students at state schools, according to data reported to U.S. News in an annual survey."

Most of the big, well known universities, including the big state colleges, have many out of state students because the influence that a degree from one of them is greater than that of the small colleges.

BTW, most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. Especially books. The Professors have a racket going of mandating that specific books are required for their courses, so books are part of the learning process for which tuition is charged. And, by coincidence, the books are often written by the professors who get a royalty from the sales.

The differentiation of fees is a way of making "tuition" appear cheaper. The necessity of paying all fees is the actual cost. The differing fees are distinctions without a difference. The whole package is the price of being educated. It's like the advertisements for the price of a new car. By the time you add up the "fees" the actual price of the car is considerably more.

its called the cost of college.. I can't help that you see listing one price against listing another another price and comparing the 2 or because its a State school as disegunious.. for my experience tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...


most people consider the total costs, including books and room and board as the actual tuition cost. that's great but that would be wrong ..

wdmso 04-28-2019 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1166370)
What you did was very disingenuous. Out of all the most considered schools in Massachusetts, you picked the only one that seemed to support what you say. All the others totally debunk what you say. Tuition and fees far outweigh not only the other individual costs, but even their total costs. See chart below:

2019 Tuition, Fees, and Living Costs Comparison Between Most Considered Schools in Massachusetts

School Name
Tuition & Fees
Cost Per Credit Hour
Books & Supplies
Living Costs
In-State
Out-of-State
In-State
Out-of-State
On Campus
Off Campus

Boston CollegeChestnut Hill, MA
$55,464
-
$1,976
$1,250
$16,378
$13,000

Boston UniversityBoston, MA
$53,948
-
$1,650
$1,000
$17,670
$17,670

Brandeis UniversityWaltham, MA
$55,395
-
$1,664
$1,000
$16,940
$13,500

Bridgewater State UniversityBridgewater, MA
$10,367
$16,507
$405
$661
$800
$15,644
$15,844

Harvard UniversityCambridge, MA
$50,420
-
$1,448
$1,000
$20,230
-

Massachusetts Institute of TechnologyCambridge, MA
Tuition Information is not available

Northeastern UniversityBoston, MA
$51,522
-
$1,577
$1,000
$18,070
$18,680

Suffolk UniversityBoston, MA
$38,566
-
$1,130
$1,200
$18,105
$21,076

Tufts UniversityMedford, MA
$56,382
-
$1,724
$1,000
$16,118
$16,118

Williams CollegeWilliamstown, MA
$55,450
-
$1,838
$800
$16,950
-

Average
$10,367
$48,184
$405
$1,519
$1,006
$17,345
$16,555
Number of schools to show 1 of 1 Pages Prev Next
*The data for academic year 2018-2019 is from IPEDS (The Integrated Postsecondary Education Data System),U.S. Department of Education.
**Information is not available for schools that are not appeared in the table. The schools have not report the information to the IPEDS or not applicable.)

Plus everyone has "living costs" regardless of whether they attend school or not. So the total for living costs, room and board, etc. does not account for what the costs would be even if school was not attended.


Because State schools were they only way my kids were going to go to college

its the same reason my Boats a Sea Hunt its not what I want its what i could afford

scottw 04-28-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166386)

tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...


wouldn't tuition, books and credit hours be one piece

and living and food be another as the first are mandatory for a college education the second is something you choose to do if you want the college to feed and water and house your student...there are options

Sea Dangles 04-28-2019 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166388)
Because State schools were they only way my kids were going to go to college

its the same reason my Boats a Sea Hunt its not what I want its what i could afford

I guess that in your unique case that tuition may have been the least costly portion of your children’s college education but I would hardly describe that as the norm. In my unique case that is far from being close to the truth. I am hoping my decision to not shop at the bargain store will give my children more opportunities and I will wait until graduation to pursue my dream boat. Good Luck.
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wdmso 04-29-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1166390)
I guess that in your unique case that tuition may have been the least costly portion of your children’s college education but I would hardly describe that as the norm. In my unique case that is far from being close to the truth. I am hoping my decision to not shop at the bargain store will give my children more opportunities and I will wait until graduation to pursue my dream boat. Good Luck.
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Not exactly sure how I should read that?

detbuch 04-29-2019 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166386)
I can't help that you see listing one price against listing another another price and comparing the 2 or because its a State school as disegunious..

Maybe I'm giving you too much credit. You've told us in several past posts that we need to look at the big picture. You didn't say that your statement "Free Tuition sounds great until you understand its the cheapest part of going to school.." was merely your personal experience with one school. So, without that significant qualification, it came across as a comment on the "big picture." Since the big picture, which your past posts indicate you adhere to, differs from your personal experience, it would seem that you were being disingenuous.

But, maybe, rather than really caring about the big picture to which you want others to pay attention, you see things through a more narrow lens.


for my experience tuition is one piece with a a price Tag
and living and books and food and credit hours are another ...

Living expenses exist whether you go to school or not. They could be higher or lower for non-students. They are not, essentially, a cost of going to school. And most students who go to schools in their driving distance locality incur few, if any, any "living costs" because of school attendance. Those out-of-staters or out of locality would have living costs if they didn't go to school.

I don't know how those who campaign on free college figure in such things as living expenses or the different prices for different schools, and who gets to go to which schools. If our tax money pays, then many might be upset that others get to go to a better school on their dime than their children can. I suppose the federal government could just take over the whole education system and make all schools equal in quality and price.

PaulS 04-29-2019 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1166437)
Not exactly sure how I should read that?

I probably. Read it the same way as you.
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spence 04-29-2019 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1166446)
I probably. Read it the same way as you.
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Dude, it's "I probably, read it the same way as you."

Step it up.

The Dad Fisherman 04-29-2019 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1166447)
Dude, it's "I probably, read it the same way as you."

Step it up.

"I, probably, read it the same way as you." :hee:
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