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Pete F. 08-27-2019 09:30 PM

A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.

If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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detbuch 08-27-2019 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173021)
A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.

If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.

Does it explain the unkind things Trump has ever done or said to Russia?

e.g.:

Trump criticized Russia for the nerve gas poisoning of the former Russian intelligence agent. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the consulate in Seattle.

Trumps military killed 300 Russian troops in Syria. Obama wouldn’t cross his red line in the sand in Syria for fear of antagonizing Russia.

Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. When Ukraine asked Obama for weapons after Russia invaded, he sent food.

Trump placed some sanctions on Russia for the election interference.

Pete F. 08-28-2019 06:41 AM

Ah, it’s Obama’s fault.
Did he also make him go to the oligarchs for funding?
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Sea Dangles 08-28-2019 08:28 AM

I am just happy to see something done about the opioid crisis. F big pharma and a president who helped spur it on.
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detbuch 08-28-2019 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173033)
Ah, it’s Obama’s fault.
Did he also make him go to the oligarchs for funding?

Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?

I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect.

Pete F. 08-28-2019 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173023)
Does it explain the unkind things Trump has ever done or said to Russia?

e.g.:

Trump criticized Russia for the nerve gas poisoning of the former Russian intelligence agent. He expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the consulate in Seattle.
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump

Trumps military killed 300 Russian troops in Syria. Obama wouldn’t cross his red line in the sand in Syria for fear of antagonizing Russia.
Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?

Trump provided lethal weapons to Ukraine. When Ukraine asked Obama for weapons after Russia invaded, he sent food.

He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.

Trump placed some sanctions on Russia for the election interference.

Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173042)
Wasn't trying to bring in the notion of "fault." Since you did, was it Obama's "fault" that he was nicer to the Russians in those cases than Trump was?

I was asking if the alleged oligarchs thing was also the reason for Trump doing unkind things to the Russians. As usual, you deflect.

Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
Was Trump's calling of others treasonous, projection?

scottw 08-28-2019 10:22 AM

meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun:bl:

Pete F. 08-28-2019 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1173054)
meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun:bl:

Trump is melting down......Fox has realized he's a losing proposition and wants to get rid of it's state news reputation.

Just watched @FoxNews heavily promoting the Democrats through their DNC Communications Director, spewing out whatever she wanted with zero pushback by anchor, @SandraSmithFox. Terrible considering that Fox couldn’t even land a debate, the Dems give them NOTHING! @CNN& @MSNBC....
....are all in for the Open Border Socialists (or beyond). Fox hires“give Hillary the questions” @donnabrazile, Juan Williams and low ratings Shep Smith. HOPELESS & CLUELESS! They should go all the way LEFT and I will still find a way to Win - That’s what I do, Win. Too Bad!....
....I don’t want to Win for myself, I only want to Win for the people. The New @FoxNews is letting millions of GREAT people down! We have to start looking for a new News Outlet. Fox isn’t working for us anymore!

Sea Dangles 08-28-2019 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1173054)
meltdown mode for the lefties...this is fun:bl:

Somewhere Pete F. has a friend,and whoever that man is he is very concerned with Pete’s behavior.
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detbuch 08-28-2019 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173051)
The diplomats he expelled have been replaced by others, it was not a force reduction, so it sounds good but little effect. Typical Trump

But it was not a nice thing.


Quite Trumpy of you to add 50% to the number of Mercenaries killed by US in Syria, and since when are people not expendable to Putin?

But it was not a nice thing.

He sent nonlethal support, Ukraine is not a NATO member and was invaded because they were going to sign a association agreement with the EU and Russia was concerned that after that they would face more than sanctions if they annexed Crimea. Trump is willing to think of that as water over the dam. Our allies are not.

But it was not a nice thing.

Some is the operative word, the sanctions Trump imposed have been largely ineffective, Russian GDP as not been decreased, Energy earnings have increased and the people in positions of power are not suffering. Things that are much more effective could be done, but the WH and Moscow Mitch stand in the way.


But it was not a nice thing.

Trump does the "unkind things" he is told to do by Putin.
Follow the money, and you will find who is Trump's true controller.
Trump's taxes, the Deutsche Banks documents and other business records will tell the tale.
Was Trump's calling of others treasonous, projection?

Putin told him to do those not nice things? Wow, this conspiracy of yours is getting real deep.

Pete F. 08-28-2019 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173113)
Putin told him to do those not nice things? Wow, this conspiracy of yours is getting real deep.

Don’t worry about me because in these troubled times, I like to put my hand over the kidney in my heart, stare at the moon of Mars contemplating how the wheel is older than the wall, the great things Frederick Douglass is doing & just being thankful I have ID to buy cereal & I don’t have windmill cancer.

Just keep believing in the Stable Genius, he will save you.

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Sea Dangles 08-28-2019 08:27 PM

He will save the dummies too so don’t despair. Free thinkers prevail!
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detbuch 08-28-2019 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173115)
Don’t worry about me because in these troubled times, I like to put my hand over the kidney in my heart, stare at the moon of Mars contemplating how the wheel is older than the wall, the great things Frederick Douglass is doing & just being thankful I have ID to buy cereal & I don’t have windmill cancer.

Just keep believing in the Stable Genius, he will save you.

Yeah, hang on to that ID . . . you might need it when the ambulance comes with a straight jacket to pick you up.

Pete F. 08-29-2019 04:54 AM

The Trump administration is slow-walking $250 million in military assistance to Ukraine, annoying lawmakers and advocates who argue the funding is critical to keeping Russia at bay.

President Donald Trump asked his national security team to review the funding program, known as the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, in order to ensure the money is being used in the best interest of the United States, a senior administration official told POLITICO on Wednesday.
But the delays come amid questions over Trump’s approach to Russia, after a weekend in which the president repeatedly seemed to downplay Moscow’s military intervention in Ukraine and pushed for Russia to be reinstated into the Group of Seven, an annual gathering of the world’s largest advanced economies. The review is also occurring amid a broader internal debate over whether to try and halt or cut billions of dollars in foreign aid.

United States military aid to Ukraine has long been seen as a litmus test for how strongly the American government is pushing back against Moscow.
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The Dad Fisherman 08-29-2019 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173021)
A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.

If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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Big "If"

https://apnews.com/5f32c14a803e43359dff5e8151dade4c

Pete F. 08-29-2019 05:07 AM

Trump is withholding vital military aid to Ukraine, while his personal lawyer seeks help from the Ukraine government to investigate his political opponent.

It doesn’t take a stable genius to see the magnitude of this conflict.
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scottw 08-29-2019 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1173124)

pete is a fake news purveyor

Jim in CT 08-29-2019 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1173021)
A source close to Deutsche Bank says Trump’s tax returns show he pays very little income tax and, more importantly, that his loans have Russian co-signers.

If true, that explains every kind word Trump has ever said about Russia and Putin.
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I see you believe everything lawrence o’donnell says....after getting panned by everyone for running with an unverified story, o’donnell went on the air last night and retracted that story, saying he never should have run with it.

pete, whet else are they lying about? it’s a fair question. has o’donnell lost any credibility in your view?

they are completely detanged.
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Pete F. 08-29-2019 06:26 AM

Just waiting for discovery in the lawsuit The Citrus Caligula threatened him with.
All Trump has to do is show the things he won’t disclose and that puts all the rumors to rest.
Kinda like a birth certificate.
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Jim in CT 08-29-2019 08:06 AM

pete, here’s the difference between us. i can say without reservation, that trump was an azz for pushing the birther story. you, on the other hand, can’t admit o’donnell is an anti trump hack. enjoy!
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Jim in CT 08-29-2019 09:42 AM

pete, here’s the difference between us. i can say without reservation, that trump was an azz for pushing the birther story. you, on the other hand, can’t admit o’donnell is an anti trump hack. enjoy!
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Pete F. 08-29-2019 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1173145)
pete, here’s the difference between us. i can say without reservation, that trump was an azz for pushing the birther story. you, on the other hand, can’t admit o’donnell is an anti trump hack. enjoy!
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Here is the Russian State TV reaction to the Anti American Russian tool at work.

“Russian efforts either to recruit somebody as an asset or effectively coerce them into becoming an asset historically typically rely on compromise of either a financial nature or a sexual nature,” said David Kris, a former assistant attorney general in charge of the Justice Department’s National Security Division. “Or some other nature by which they can gain leverage. Either induce somebody voluntarily to cooperate or blackmail them.” Kris added that “there is long history of that kind of activity, including in the context of presidential elections,” going back to Soviet efforts to offer money to Hubert Humphrey in the 1968 election.

Great Propaganda Job by the Citrus Caligula, payment for his funding?

He's playing you for a fool, Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpJSIZYITWI&t=107s

Jim in CT 08-29-2019 03:36 PM

so according to pete, anyone who says anything complimentary about russia, must be suspected of being a russian mole. you say this, even after o’donnell retracted his story.

when romney said russia was a threat and obama mocked him for it, were you equally suspicious that obama was a russian agent?

when o’donnell says trump got loans thanks to russia, you gleefully posted it, saying trump was influenced by russia.

o’donnell retracted his story, said he never should have run with it. that doesn’t deter you one bit.

welcome to tds.
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spence 08-30-2019 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1173168)
when o’donnell says trump got loans thanks to russia, you gleefully posted it, saying trump was influenced by russia.

o’donnell retracted his story, said he never should have run with it. that doesn’t deter you one bit.

O'donnell didn't retract the story because it wasn't true, he retracted it because he didn't adhere to journalistic standards and Trump was threatening to sue NBC.

The idea that Russia has kept the Trump org afloat is no crazy secret, even Jr has admitted as much.

scottw 08-30-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1173208)

O'donnell didn't retract the story because it wasn't true, he retracted it because he didn't adhere to journalistic standards

this is very amusing

wdmso 09-04-2019 07:30 AM

Trump Administration Diverts $3.6 Billion From Military Projects To Border Wall.

More fake news I guess .. 1st fema now the Military.. when's Mexico's turn
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detbuch 09-04-2019 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1173377)
Trump Administration Diverts $3.6 Billion From Military Projects To Border Wall.

More fake news I guess .. 1st fema now the Military.. when's Mexico's turn

Good news, not fake news.

Jim in CT 09-04-2019 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173378)
Good news, not fake news.

would be better if mexico was paying for it as he promised. but better we pay for it, than not to have it.

in montgomery county maryland ( a sanctuary county), seven illegals have been arrested for rape in a little over a month. tell the victims that we don’t need a secure border.
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wdmso 09-04-2019 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1173378)
Good news, not fake news.

Circumventing Congress is good thing.. ok
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Jim in CT 09-04-2019 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1173385)
Circumventing Congress is good thing.. ok
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how many obama executive orders did you complain about?
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wdmso 09-04-2019 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1173380)
would be better if mexico was paying for it as he promised. but better we pay for it, than not to have it.

in montgomery county maryland ( a sanctuary county), seven illegals have been arrested for rape in a little over a month. tell the victims that we don’t need a secure border.
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Illegals rapeing other illegals.. but americans raping each other is what in your eyes??.. i know a wall will reduce rapes .. any other fantasies that the wall will fix for you.. i find it funny how wall supporters are clueless about the size of or borders..as if its like fencing in their yard
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PaulS 09-04-2019 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1173386)
how many obama executive orders did you complain about?
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So you didn't complain about Obama's executive actions? How many did Obama have compared to Bush and now Trump?

Should we point out all your hypocrisy on this site w/Trump?

Sea Dangles 09-04-2019 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1173387)
Illegals rapeing other illegals.. but americans raping each other is what in your eyes??.. i know a wall will reduce rapes .. any other fantasies that the wall will fix for you.. i find it funny how wall supporters are clueless about the size of or borders..as if its like fencing in their yard
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Wayne, funny that you think illegal entry into this country is a fantasy. Must be Trumps fault.
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Jim in CT 09-04-2019 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1173388)
So you didn't complain about Obama's executive actions? How many did Obama have compared to Bush and now Trump?

Should we point out all your hypocrisy on this site w/Trump?

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i’d love for you to point out my hypocrisy with trump!!

for the record, i didn’t have an issue with obama’s executive orders. i had many issues, not with when he chose to issue executive orders.

is that a direct enough answer?

go ahead, tell us all about what a hypocrite i am. please be specific.
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Jim in CT 09-04-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1173387)
Illegals rapeing other illegals.. but americans raping each other is what in your eyes??.. i know a wall will reduce rapes .. any other fantasies that the wall will fix for you.. i find it funny how wall supporters are clueless about the size of or borders..as if its like fencing in their yard
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i’m kind of opposed to all rape, i don’t qualify it depending on the victim. apparently you do, at least when there’s a political reason to do so.

the wall will reduce rapes. if that’s not a good enough reason to build
it, it will also reduce the number of people coming here, who we don’t track. I see that as an improvement. Do you?
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The Dad Fisherman 09-04-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1173388)
So you didn't complain about Obama's executive actions? How many did Obama have compared to Bush and now Trump?

Should we point out all your hypocrisy on this site w/Trump?

Obama had 276, Trump has 121
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Pete F. 09-04-2019 03:27 PM

Where is the wall? It does not exist. As president, Donald Trump has replaced a couple hundred miles of existing fencing. That’s it.

NOT ONE SINGLE MILE of new wall has been built.

He rejected Paul Ryan’s plan to get the wall funded and built.

He rejected the Dems plan in which Trump gives Democrats a path to citizenship for 1.8 million Dreamers; Democrats give Trump his full $25 billion wall funding request.

Trump had chances to get the wall built and he chose NO.

Nobody knew politics could be so complicated.

Certainly not someone with no political experience, that's none, zero, not one (adjective of your choice) bit.

Trump will end up on this list of presidents, Buchanan, Pierce, Wilson, G. W. Bush and Fillmore and I think the grifter has a good chance to take the bottom spot.

Got Stripers 09-04-2019 03:44 PM

Hey be easy on our commander and chief, he is going to nuke that damn hurricane, he will save all in Alabama 🤪
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Sea Dangles 09-04-2019 03:59 PM

He has run for office one time.
Easy win over the #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& puppet
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Pete F. 09-04-2019 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1173394)
Obama had 276, Trump has 121
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Since we are quoting useless statistics

Total times Obama played golf during his eight year Presidency:306

Total times Trump tweeted about how bad it is that Obama's golfing 24

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Can you believe that,with all of the problems and difficulties facing the U.S., President Obama spent the day playing golf.Worse than Carter
8:03 PM · Oct 13, 2014·Twitter for Android

Trump's golf to date and he has the rest of this term to beat Obama.
Days at Trump properties 289
Golf outings, all but one at Trump properties 227
Cost to date for golf alone: $109,000,000 and remember, that doesn't count taking his royal family to meet the Queen.
And while Obama played at service base courses 226 times, to date Trump has not played at a base course once.


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