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Pete F. 12-03-2019 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180858)
it goes way beyond dishonesty. I have my political biases, most of us do. These people are, literally, delusional. The economy has done nothing? Trump doesn’t select federal judges, the senate does?
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While Trump selects judges the Senate played a big role in the number of choices he has and played other games.

Things changed after the 2014 elections, when Republicans won back the chamber and virtually halted processing Obama’s court nominees. At the end of Obama’s term, in 2017, there were 17 circuit court vacancies, with seven nominees pending, and 86 district court vacancies, with 44 nominees pending.

Having so many vacancies to fill gave Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the White House more opportunities to pump up Trump’s confirmation rate in his first two years.

In 2017, McConnell went further than Reid in instituting another partisan rule change. This one did away with the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees, ensuring Neil M. Gorsuch would be confirmed — and Brett M. Kavanaugh a year later. And this year he limited the number of hours of post-cloture debate on district court nominees, a move that further greases the skids for more confirmations.

Another change in Senate operations during Trump’s presidency has been the weakening of the “blue slip” process, which allowed home-state senators to essentially sink a nomination if they did not signal their support. Obama and previous presidents were loath to choose nominees who would not pass muster with home-state senators.

McConnell has said that Democratic opposition won’t slow Trump nominees, a sentiment echoed by Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

Georgetown’s Rom doesn’t expect doing away with the blue slip process to make a huge difference, but he said it will “allow the majority of the Senate to approve judges more quickly.”

“They’re going to try to put as many judges through that process as possible … and being able to ignore the home-state senators gives them a little bit of an edge,” he said.

Jim in CT 12-03-2019 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1180864)
I’ve never claimed the economy isn’t strong, but there is a cost associated to his policies and eventually the tab is coming to the table. Manufacturing and the farming sectors are now paying for the trade war policy and at NATO, he now says he will expand tariffs and suggests a China deal might be on hold until after 2020. I believe he has done serious harm to how our allies see us, especially when entering into agreements, which Trump has shown no problem walking away from. His undermining the strength of the chain of command in the military and second guessing their judgement on discipline is dangerous. His head in the sand approach to climate change will set us back and at a time we should continue to lead, he moves us in the opposite direction. Thankfully scores of businesses, universities, cities and states have stayed the course knowing its serious.

All this hype about the economy and nothing on the budget and deficit, guess who pays that tab; prepare your children.
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others are denying its strong.

i do t see a major cost to his antics. I’d prefer having an adult in there who has some class, but not if it meant less growth. Our nation is a whole lot more than who the president is. Lots of people
still risking their lives to come here, very few billionaires here, who can afford to live anywhere they want, are fleeing. i think the “cost” is inflated. That’s just my opinion, and i may be wrong. But I just don’t see it. We are a whole lot more, than who are president happens to be.
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Jim in CT 12-03-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1180869)
While Trump selects judges the Senate played a big role in the number of choices he has and played other games.

Things changed after the 2014 elections, when Republicans won back the chamber and virtually halted processing Obama’s court nominees. At the end of Obama’s term, in 2017, there were 17 circuit court vacancies, with seven nominees pending, and 86 district court vacancies, with 44 nominees pending.

Having so many vacancies to fill gave Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the White House more opportunities to pump up Trump’s confirmation rate in his first two years.

In 2017, McConnell went further than Reid in instituting another partisan rule change. This one did away with the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees, ensuring Neil M. Gorsuch would be confirmed — and Brett M. Kavanaugh a year later. And this year he limited the number of hours of post-cloture debate on district court nominees, a move that further greases the skids for more confirmations.

Another change in Senate operations during Trump’s presidency has been the weakening of the “blue slip” process, which allowed home-state senators to essentially sink a nomination if they did not signal their support. Obama and previous presidents were loath to choose nominees who would not pass muster with home-state senators.

McConnell has said that Democratic opposition won’t slow Trump nominees, a sentiment echoed by Senate Judiciary Chairman Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

Georgetown’s Rom doesn’t expect doing away with the blue slip process to make a huge difference, but he said it will “allow the majority of the Senate to approve judges more quickly.”

“They’re going to try to put as many judges through that process as possible … and being able to ignore the home-state senators gives them a little bit of an edge,” he said.

the political game playing with judges, started when the democrats rejected Bjork. Before that, confirmations were expected, even if the opposing party controlled the majority in the senate.

can’t have it both ways.

You’re saying McConnell and Graham should
let democrat opposition slow them down?

The American people
have chosen to give control of the senate to republicans. That includes the duty of confirming judges. If you don’t like it, win control of the senate. until
then, too bad.

After what the democrats tried to do to Kavanaugh, all you can do is point fingers at the republicans?

Many Republicans voted for Kagan and Sotomayor.
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Pete F. 12-03-2019 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180873)
the political game playing with judges, started when the democrats rejected Bjork. Before that, confirmations were expected, even if the opposing party controlled the majority in the senate.

can’t have it both ways.

You’re saying McConnell and Graham should
let democrat opposition slow them down?

The American people
have chosen to give control of the senate to republicans. That includes the duty of confirming judges. If you don’t like it, win control of the senate. until
then, too bad.

After what the democrats tried to do to Kavanaugh, all you can do is point fingers at the republicans?

Many Republicans voted for Kagan and Sotomayor.
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What you said was: "Trump doesn’t select federal judges, the senate does?"

I detail what happened in the Senate and you play victim once again, going back decades to the man who, after men with belief in the rule of law refused, fired Archibald Cox and then attempting to justify the Machivellian machinations of McConnell and Graham.

Just how did Kavanaugh appear as a SC candidate?

1. Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Brett Kavanaugh.
2. Kennedy’s son Justin and senior executive Tom Bowers signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank.
3. Bowers “killed himself”.

Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s:$92,000 country club fees, $200,000 credit card debt and $1.2M home mortgage?

And you're worried about Hunter Biden getting 50K a month

Jim in CT 12-03-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1180886)
What you said was: "Trump doesn’t select federal judges, the senate does?"

I detail what happened in the Senate and you play victim once again, going back decades to the man who, after men with belief in the rule of law refused, fired Archibald Cox and then attempting to justify the Machivellian machinations of McConnell and Graham.

Just how did Kavanaugh appear as a SC candidate?

1. Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Brett Kavanaugh.
2. Kennedy’s son Justin and senior executive Tom Bowers signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank.
3. Bowers “killed himself”.

Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s:$92,000 country club fees, $200,000 credit card debt and $1.2M home mortgage?

And you're worried about Hunter Biden getting 50K a month

im not playing the victim card. my side is doing just fine. just pointing out the hypocrisy and lies.
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Got Stripers 12-03-2019 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1180868)
My children will work and yours will whine. That is called preparation.🙄
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It amazes me how you can even go beyond insulting board members, even moving on to include wives, sons and daughters. Keep trying to make yourself bigger than you are, I’m certain nobody on here is buying it.
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Pete F. 12-03-2019 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180887)
im not playing the victim card. my side is doing just fine. just pointing out the hypocrisy and lies.
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Hypocrisy
Bork is the man who, after men with belief in the rule of law refused, fired Archibald Cox

Just how did Kavanaugh appear as a SC candidate?

1. Justice Kennedy retired abruptly to make way for Trump’s Brett Kavanaugh.
2. Kennedy’s son Justin and senior executive Tom Bowers signed off on Trump’s loans at Deutsche Bank.
3. Bowers “killed himself”.

Who paid off Brett Kavanaugh’s:$92,000 country club fees, $200,000 credit card debt and $1.2M home mortgage?

Sea Dangles 12-03-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1180895)
It amazes me how you can even go beyond insulting board members, even moving on to include wives, sons and daughters. Keep trying to make yourself bigger than you are, I’m certain nobody on here is buying it.
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Do the world a favor and teach them accountability. It sickens me to hear you rant about free college and a wealth tax with you more than willing to accept handouts. All the while,complaining about a leader who puts AMERICA 1st.
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Got Stripers 12-03-2019 11:00 AM

What the F*ck are you drinking or smoking. I haven’t spoken one word about free eduction, taxing the wealthy more because they can pay more, helps fund some education. You know nothing about me, but you clearly think you do, stay away from that old eggnog, you can’t afford to lose more brain cells.
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PaulS 12-03-2019 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1180895)
It amazes me how you can even go beyond insulting board members, even moving on to include wives, sons and daughters. Keep trying to make yourself bigger than you are, I’m certain nobody on here is buying it.
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He is a vile person.

wdmso 12-03-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180853)
i never, ever said i give trump 100% credit for the economy. I said
many times, that Obama got the economy back and then some.

You are the one, who said that Trumps economy has “done nothing”.

So between us, who is the honest one, and who is the thoughtless partisan zombie? Hmmm?
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ok you got me i should have said 99% funny you've never said what % Trump is responsible for.. let start there,, because base on posts your all in And it seems Trump likes to influence the markets with his tweets latest has tanked it 400points well see how it recovers

scottw 12-03-2019 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1180853)

I said many times, that Obama got the economy back and then some.


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there was really only 1 way to go...soooo...."C" for effort...remember the "new normal"

Jim in CT 12-03-2019 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1180924)
ok you got me i should have said 99% funny you've never said what % Trump is responsible for.. let start there,, because base on posts your all in

no one knows what % he’s responsible for. but he didnt just ride obama’s momentum, he did things very differently, and most people say it’s working well.
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scottw 12-03-2019 11:13 AM

the economy and stock market were supposed to have crashed years ago according the the "experts" and the several faux experts here

Sea Dangles 12-03-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1180917)
What the F*ck are you drinking or smoking. I haven’t spoken one word about free eduction, taxing the wealthy more because they can pay more, helps fund some education. You know nothing about me, but you clearly think you do, stay away from that old eggnog, you can’t afford to lose more brain cells.
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You could pay more too...and I am sure there are some people that $ would help in this country. It is giving Tuesday so why not offer to give it up for your cause? Do you have any idea how many charities benefit as the result of tax cuts? Small minded people are guilty of only seeing the small picture I guess. I am amused how anxious they are to get into the pockets of success.
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Jim in CT 12-03-2019 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1180930)
the economy and stock market were supposed to have crashed years ago according the the "experts" and the several faux experts here

Paul Krugman said the economy would never survive a Trump
presidency.

Atta boy, Columbo.
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PaulS 12-03-2019 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1180939)
Do you have any idea how many charities benefit as the result of tax cuts? Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

Actually charitable contributions are down. - It is understandable why you don't post opinions or facts - sad.

The fall in itemization contributed to a massive fall in people who claim the charitable deduction. Overall, in 2018, despite a strong economy, American households reduced their charitable giving by over $15 billion, the largest decline since the Great Recession.

Jim in CT 12-03-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1180925)
there was really only 1 way to go...soooo...."C" for effort...remember the "new normal"

Slowest recovery ever. But better than no recovery.


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