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Pete F. 12-30-2020 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207292)
keep trolling those conspiracy theories pete :claps:

Did you say conspiracy theory?????

Tweety working hard at midnight, after watching Newsmaxx

I love the Great State of Georgia, but the people who run it, from the Governor, @BrianKempGA, to the Secretary of State, are a complete disaster and don’t have a clue, or worse. Nobody can be this stupid. Just allow us to find the crime, and turn the state Republican....
...The consent decree signed by the “Secretary”, with the consent of Kemp, is perhaps even more poorly negotiated than the deal that John Kerry made with Iran. Now it turns out that Brad R’s brother works for China, and they definitely don’t want “Trump”. So disgusting! #MAGA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc2wh_Zyv7Y

detbuch 12-30-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207297)
Why he was chosen is the question, isn’t it?

Out of all the countless reasons why Kavanaugh could have been chosen, guess which one Pete chose . . .his usual narrative fitting innuendo/insinuation/conjecture? Nah . . . can't be that . . .

scottw 12-30-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207299)
Did you say conspiracy theory?????

Tweety working hard at midnight, after watching Newsmaxx

I love the Great State of Georgia, but the people who run it, from the Governor, @BrianKempGA, to the Secretary of State, are a complete disaster and don’t have a clue, or worse. Nobody can be this stupid. Just allow us to find the crime, and turn the state Republican....
...The consent decree signed by the “Secretary”, with the consent of Kemp, is perhaps even more poorly negotiated than the deal that John Kerry made with Iran. Now it turns out that Brad R’s brother works for China, and they definitely don’t want “Trump”. So disgusting! #MAGA


keep a close eye on his every move and fill us in pete...you only have a couple weeks of surveillance left

scottw 12-30-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1207301)
Out of all the countless reasons why Kavanaugh could have been chosen, guess which one Pete chose . . .

His usual narrative fitting innuendo/insinuation/conjecture? Nah . . . can't be that . . .

it was the russians...

Pete F. 12-30-2020 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207303)
it was the russians...

You are correct

The major beneficiary of Manafort’s actions is Vladimir Putin himself, who the IC concludes directed the 2016 attack..& who can maintain plausible deniability as long as Manafort doesn’t spill the beans

Remember that Manafort was the linchpin of Russia’s efforts with the Trump campaign. He was the one with direct contacts with Russian intel. He was the one sharing info with them. He was the one who owed a Russian oligarch $10M...but worked for the campaign for free.
Manafort initially claimed to be cooperating with Mueller. But he wasn’t: In fact he was secretly continuing to do work for Ukraine, tampering with witnesses, and lying to Mueller’s team. Mueller discovered that Trump had been dangling a pardon behind the scenes.
Manafort was in a position to spill ALL THE BEANS. He was pushing Russian disinfo (that Ukraine interfered in the election) as far back as 2016. He was sharing campaign polling data with Russian intel. Writing in “code” to his Russian oligarch debtor.
Soooo...it was (and is) really important to both Trump AND Putin to keep his mouth shut. That is what that pardon was about. HOWEVER, remember that the NY AG has an indictment lined up on Manafort on other state charges. Trump’s pardon won’t reach those.

He also continues to be a fair interview subject for FBI counterintelligence; and if he lies to them in such an interview, that’s a new crime and one that, after Jan. 20, his pal Trump won’t be around to help him with.
So, the story is not over for Manafort or Tweety because as McConnell said "While the president alone possesses the power to pardon, it's important to remember that he is not personally exempt from federal laws that prohibit the corrupt actions of all government officials."

So on January 6th, Trump will lose again -- just as he lost on November 3rd, just as he lost during every successive stage of the electoral college vote process, and just as he lost in every court challenge re the election.

Pete F. 12-30-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1207296)
Sen. Josh Hawley, R-Mo., said Wednesday he plans to object during the Electoral College certification process

"I cannot vote to certify the electoral college results on January 6 without raising the fact that some states, particularly Pennsylvania, failed to follow their own state election laws," Hawley said in a statement Wednesday morning.

Hawley called on Congress to investigate allegations of voter fraud and election irregularities. No credible evidence of such fraud has been provided by President Trump or his legal team.

Guess he forgot he's from the Show Me State

Hawley might want to ask Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Michael Cohen, etc. how defending Tweety will end for him.

Sea Dangles 12-30-2020 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1207298)
who's a supreme Court Justice

Dirty politics and conspiracies theories are not the same ... but you all ready kew that ... :huh:

You want to classify and categorize stupid. But you don’t get to do that.

Stupid is still stupid
Get out of your sewer and get some air. Save yourself
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detbuch 12-30-2020 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207304)
You are correct

The major beneficiary of Manafort’s actions is Vladimir Putin himself, who the IC concludes directed the 2016 attack..& who can maintain plausible deniability as long as Manafort doesn’t spill the beans

Remember that Manafort was the linchpin of Russia’s efforts with the Trump campaign. He was the one with direct contacts with Russian intel. He was the one sharing info with them. He was the one who owed a Russian oligarch $10M...but worked for the campaign for free.
Manafort initially claimed to be cooperating with Mueller. But he wasn’t: In fact he was secretly continuing to do work for Ukraine, tampering with witnesses, and lying to Mueller’s team. Mueller discovered that Trump had been dangling a pardon behind the scenes.
Manafort was in a position to spill ALL THE BEANS. He was pushing Russian disinfo (that Ukraine interfered in the election) as far back as 2016. He was sharing campaign polling data with Russian intel. Writing in “code” to his Russian oligarch debtor.
Soooo...it was (and is) really important to both Trump AND Putin to keep his mouth shut. That is what that pardon was about. HOWEVER, remember that the NY AG has an indictment lined up on Manafort on other state charges. Trump’s pardon won’t reach those.

He also continues to be a fair interview subject for FBI counterintelligence; and if he lies to them in such an interview, that’s a new crime and one that, after Jan. 20, his pal Trump won’t be around to help him with.
So, the story is not over for Manafort or Tweety because as McConnell said "While the president alone possesses the power to pardon, it's important to remember that he is not personally exempt from federal laws that prohibit the corrupt actions of all government officials."

So on January 6th, Trump will lose again -- just as he lost on November 3rd, just as he lost during every successive stage of the electoral college vote process, and just as he lost in every court challenge re the election.

These unproven (baseless, as anti-Trump media would put it) narratives are why Kavanaugh was chosen?

scottw 12-30-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207305)
Hawley might want to ask Jeff Sessions, Bill Barr, Michael Cohen, etc. how defending Tweety will end for him.

They are all doing much better than people with dirt on Hillary
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Pete F. 12-31-2020 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207312)
They are all doing much better than people with dirt on Hillary
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2 died of Ebola: They said Obama should resign.

4 died in Benghazi: They had Hillary testify for 11 hours, held 33 hearings, and launched a multiyear probe.

342,577 died thanks to Trump’s malevolence: You cheer him on, deny his election defeat, and try to overturn Biden’s win.
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wdmso 12-31-2020 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207307)
You want to classify and categorize stupid. But you don’t get to do that.

Stupid is still stupid
Get out of your sewer and get some air. Save yourself
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Actual person makes claim in a legal setting under oath..

Claiming they election was rigged and dem eat and drink baby blood or 5g

Like I said if you see both as equal it’s not the sewer gasses
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Sea Dangles 12-31-2020 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1207328)
Actual person makes claim in a legal setting under oath..

Claiming they election was rigged and dem eat and drink baby blood or 5g

Like I said if you see both as equal it’s not the sewer gasses
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Wayne,every elected official said they believed her story. Elected officials!!!

We are not trying to compare that bs with political allegiance I hope.
This is not even close to being the same. Your party simply has no conscience and have proven it time and again. Yet you stick by them like they are the second coming while criticizing the base of the right.
Hypocrite much?

wdmso 12-31-2020 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207330)
Wayne,every elected official said they believed her story. Elected officials!!!

We are not trying to compare that bs with political allegiance I hope.
This is not even close to being the same. Your party simply has no conscience and have proven it time and again. Yet you stick by them like they are the second coming while criticizing the base of the right.
Hypocrite much?

My party has no conscience that’s funny and you used hypocrite in the same sentence ...

She was under oath as was he.. so a classic he said she said ... that’s why he is a Justice this was no conspiracy theory 80 percent of Democratic men believe Ford as do 74 percent of Democratic women. Among Republicans, 77 percent of men believe Kavanaugh, as do 73 percent of women. That’s what Partisanship looks like



Be We are talking conspiracy theory’s , not partisanship , and you can’t or won’t admit the 2 topics are not the same

Wisconsin health system said an employee admitted to deliberately spoiling 500 doses of coronavirus vaccine.

Let me guess what party of conscience or website conspiracy this person believed ! to do what they did

The Nashville RV guy what conspiracy moved him 5G lizard people...s

What % of Republicans believe these conspiracy theory’s

Some 56% of Republicans believe that QAnon, a far-right conspiracy theory, is mostly or partly true,

These aren’t made up stats

And Republican elected officials are cashing in parroting these claims for votes .. and please don’t suggest both sides do it , even their own members see the downfall in the path some willing go down





So Ben Sasse is what a Rino or Truth Teller , about trying to flip the election

Let’s be clear what is happening here: We have a bunch of ambitious politicians who think there’s a quick way to tap into the president’s populist base without doing any real, long-term damage. But they’re wrong — and this issue is bigger than anyone’s personal ambitions,
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Sea Dangles 12-31-2020 02:36 PM

Do you still believe her Wayne?
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wdmso 12-31-2020 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1207345)
Do you still believe her Wayne?
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Never doubted either one of them
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Pete F. 12-31-2020 09:46 PM

The Treason Party has a nice ring to it.
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scottw 01-01-2021 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1207336)
My party has no conscience that’s funny and you used hypocrite in the same sentence ...

She was under oath as was he.. so a classic he said she said ... that’s why he is a Justice this was no conspiracy theory 80 percent of Democratic men believe Ford as do 74 percent of Democratic women. Among Republicans, 77 percent of men believe Kavanaugh, as do 73 percent of women. That’s what Partisanship looks like



Be We are talking conspiracy theory’s , not partisanship , and you can’t or won’t admit the 2 topics are not the same

Wisconsin health system said an employee admitted to deliberately spoiling 500 doses of coronavirus vaccine.

Let me guess what party of conscience or website conspiracy this person believed ! to do what they did

The Nashville RV guy what conspiracy moved him 5G lizard people...s

What % of Republicans believe these conspiracy theory’s

Some 56% of Republicans believe that QAnon, a far-right conspiracy theory, is mostly or partly true,

These aren’t made up stats

And Republican elected officials are cashing in parroting these claims for votes .. and please don’t suggest both sides do it , even their own members see the downfall in the path some willing go down





So Ben Sasse is what a Rino or Truth Teller , about trying to flip the election

Let’s be clear what is happening here: We have a bunch of ambitious politicians who think there’s a quick way to tap into the president’s populist base without doing any real, long-term damage. But they’re wrong — and this issue is bigger than anyone’s personal ambitions,
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this sounds like the rant of someone who believes in conspiracy theories:uhuh:

scottw 01-01-2021 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207376)
The Treason Party has a nice ring to it.
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that's what George III said :)

scottw 01-05-2021 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1207271)

Forty percent of respondents said they believe the coronavirus was made in a lab in China even though there is no evidence for this. Scientists say the virus was transmitted to humans from another species.


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https://nymag.com/intelligencer/arti...pe-theory.html


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