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detbuch 01-08-2021 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207876)
What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.

They tried to overthrow the government of the US? Can you explain how they would have been able to accomplish that?

On the other hand, you're very comfortable in overthrowing a duly elected President. In fact you tried your damnedest to help that cause. And, rather than rationally show with actual proof that such a thing should be done, you constantly lied, misrepresented, resorted to innuendo, conjecture, conspiracy theories and incessantly spewed divisive hate--the kind that was being peddled by the radical Dems and their complicit media.

It was exactly the hateful divisiveness that led to what happened in the capitol. Your kind of malevolence is part of the reason we are at the point of another sort of civil war and possible break up of this nation.

scottw 01-08-2021 01:14 PM

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They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight.


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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1207902)


They tried to overthrow the government of the US?

this is correct...unarmed and wearing halloween costumes...

Pete F. 01-08-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207876)
What happened in DC is not comparable to burning or looting of other cities. They tried to overthrow the government of the US in broad daylight. Tweety spent months encouraging it. Don’t #^&#^&#^&#^& with me with your “logic.” You’re terrible at it.
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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1207902)
They tried to overthrow the government of the US? Can you explain how they would have been able to accomplish that?

On the other hand, you're very comfortable in overthrowing a duly elected President. In fact you tried your damnedest to help that cause. And, rather than rationally show with actual proof that such a thing should be done, you constantly lied, misrepresented, resorted to innuendo, conjecture, conspiracy theories and incessantly spewed divisive hate--the kind that was being peddled by the radical Dems and their complicit media.

Obstruction is over, now the truth will find daylight and no longer be covered up by this administration.

It was exactly the hateful divisiveness that led to what happened in the capitol. Your kind of malevolence is part of the reason we are at the point of another sort of civil war and possible break up of this nation.

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207903)
this is correct...unarmed and wearing halloween costumes...

So the deplorables are in the same situation as Gore voters in 2000, Kerry voters in 2004, McCain voters in 2008, Romney voters in 2012, and Clinton voters in 2016, but they insist on being treated like special snowflakes whose upset must imminently cause the destruction of U.S. democracy.

And yes, I think that what they were led to do is deplorable.

detbuch 01-08-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207904)
Obstruction is over, now the truth will find daylight and no longer be covered up by this administration.

There was no obstruction. None was proven. There were "unfounded" and "baseless" accusations of it. Which were part of the constant accusatory attack meant to overthrow a duly elected President.

And yes, I think that what they were led to do is deplorable.

Yes, the constant leftist characterization of Trump, Trump supporters, Republicans, "Conservatives" and "Right Wingers" as racists, stupid, NAZIs, women haters, etc., as well as the promotion of identity politics, "white Privilege," language control, forced behavior, and other such nonsense, were deplorable factors that led to what they did.

Pete F. 01-08-2021 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1207911)
Yes, the constant leftist characterization of Trump, Trump supporters, Republicans, "Conservatives" and "Right Wingers" as racists, stupid, NAZIs, women haters, etc., as well as the promotion of identity politics, "white Privilege," language control, forced behavior, and other such nonsense, were deplorable factors that led to what they did.

It is not by chance that most of the individuals who descended on the nation’s capital were white, nor is it an accident that they align with the Republican Party and this president. Moreover, it is not a coincidence that symbols of white racism, including the Confederate flag, were present and prominently displayed.

They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

scottw 01-08-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1207917)

They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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Jim in CT 01-08-2021 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207922)
This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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i was wondering when someone would inject racism into this. everything republicans do, is racist. supporting a president who got black unemployment to its lowest level ever, who increased funding to black colleges, who advocated for criminal justice reform and school
choice...is racist, according to pete.

really effed in the head.
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Pete F. 01-08-2021 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207922)
This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1207923)
i was wondering when someone would inject racism into this. everything republicans do, is racist. supporting a president who got black unemployment to its lowest level ever, who increased funding to black colleges, who advocated for criminal justice reform and school
choice...is racist, according to pete.

really effed in the head.
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It is not by chance that most of the individuals who descended on the nation’s capital were white, nor is it an accident that they align with the Republican Party and this president. Moreover, it is not a coincidence that symbols of white racism, including the Confederate flag, were present and prominently displayed.

Pete F. 01-08-2021 03:50 PM

ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.- Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin attended the Wednesday's pro-Trump event at the U.S. Capitol.

He posted a series of videos during the event, calling for additional rioting.

Griffin, the founder of Cowboys for Trump, defended the actions of the rioters who stormed into the halls of Congress, damaged property and disrupted the democratic process of certifying the presidential election.

At one point, Griffin said when President-elect Biden is sworn in on Jan. 20, the rioters will return to mob the Capitol.

"Blood will run out of the building," he said.

Griffin added that he will plant a flag on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's desk.

detbuch 01-08-2021 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207922)
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Originally Posted by Pete F. View Post

They are a dangerous mob of grievous white people worried that their position in the status hierarchy is threatened by a multiracial coalition of Americans who brought Biden to power and defeated Trump, whom back in 2017 Ta-Nehisi Coates called the first white president. Making this provocative point, Coates wrote, “It is often said that Trump has no real ideology, which is not true — his ideology is white supremacy, in all its truculent and sanctimonious power.” So, when we think about those who gathered in Washington, D.C., on Wednesday and who will surely continue their advance in opposition to democratic rule, let it not be lost on us that they do not simply come in defense of Donald Trump. They come in defense of white supremacy.

This is the kind of stupidity that is the problem
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Yeah, if Pete's views are in sync with Ta-Nehisi Coates's, that explains why they are warped. BTW Coates says, “Joe Biden shouldn’t be president.”

scottw 01-09-2021 08:31 AM

interesting view from a bernie supporter


https://www.mvtimes.com/2021/01/08/not-huge-angry-mob/

Pete F. 01-09-2021 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1207986)
interesting view from a bernie supporter


https://www.mvtimes.com/2021/01/08/not-huge-angry-mob/

So, it was just like a typical BLM March?
Just whiter
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