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Got Stripers 05-21-2022 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1227041)
Back to the topic 2000 Mules
Question.
Did any of you liberals who call us conspiracy theorists and other things…..
ANY OF YOU ACTUALLY WATCH IT ???

Maybe because unlike the Trumpets, most believe the election was fair and won by Biden. Maybe it’s because every court that looked at these crazy accusations either wouldn’t hear the case or ruled against it. Grab your foil hat and an ice tea, it’s going to be hot today, steaming over a couple guys on an obscure fishing site not clicking your BS link will just make you hotter.

Raider Ronnie 05-21-2022 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1227045)
Maybe because unlike the Trumpets, most believe the election was fair and won by Biden. Maybe it’s because every court that looked at these crazy accusations either wouldn’t hear the case or ruled against it. Grab your foil hat and an ice tea, it’s going to be hot today, steaming over a couple guys on an obscure fishing site not clicking your BS link will just make you hotter.



Typical #^&#^&#^&#^&ing reply
dance around the question, make stupid insults…..
DID YOU WATCH IT OR NOT ????
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Pete F. 05-21-2022 07:31 AM

Ginni Thomas had pressed Arizona lawmakers after the 2020 election to disregard Biden’s popular-vote victory and choose “a clean slate of Electors,”
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Pete F. 05-21-2022 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie (Post 1227050)
Typical #^&#^&#^&#^&ing reply
dance around the question, make stupid insults…..
DID YOU WATCH IT OR NOT ????
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If there really had been fraud, the evidence would’ve been displayed in Court and not as a movie you have to pay for. These grifters really know their marks. 2,000 Mules is more like thousands of fools.
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Raider Ronnie 05-21-2022 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227055)
If there really had been fraud, the evidence would’ve been displayed in Court and not as a movie you have to pay for. These grifters really know their marks. 2,000 Mules is more like thousands of fools.
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DID YOU WATCH IT OR NOT
YES OR NO ????????????
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Pete F. 05-21-2022 08:19 AM

Of course not
A movie on the theory of a convicted felon that a con man didn’t really lose.
Supported by research that wasn’t done.
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detbuch 05-21-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227055)
If there really had been fraud, the evidence would’ve been displayed in Court

Not if the Court refuses to hear it.

Pete F. 05-21-2022 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227062)
Not if the Court refuses to hear it.

This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President Donald Trump and his allies challenging the election or its outcome.
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detbuch 05-21-2022 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227063)
This is false: state and federal judges dismissed more than 50 lawsuits presented by then President Donald Trump and his allies challenging the election or its outcome.
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In several cases the Court dismissed the charges due to lack of standing, not lack of evidence. Others were dismissed by judicial opinion, not by trial in which evidence would be heard by a jury.

It would be interesting if whatever evidence is presented by the movie would actually be analyzed in depth by pro and con debate by experts, or a court trial.

Pete F. 05-21-2022 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227067)
In several cases the Court dismissed the charges due to lack of standing, not lack of evidence. Others were dismissed by judicial opinion, not by trial in which evidence would be heard by a jury.

It would be interesting if whatever evidence is presented by the movie would actually be analyzed in depth by pro and con debate by experts, or a court trial.

The lawyers claiming fraud exhibited consistent incompetence and failed to produce evidence.
Con men who don’t have evidence and have a history of not paying end up with press conferences at Four Seasons Landscaping and lose in court.
It would be interesting to see what the 2016 results would have been without Comeys announcement but any point would be moot now
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Raider Ronnie 05-21-2022 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227062)
Not if the Court refuses to hear it.




If I were on the Supreme Court & my home address was leaked & the left unleashed BLM thugs & Antifa to threaten me & my family I probably wouldn’t hear it either.
Straight out of the Chicago Al Capone playbook.
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Raider Ronnie 05-21-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227058)
Of course not
A movie on the theory of a convicted felon that a con man didn’t really lose.
Supported by research that wasn’t done.
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There you go.
A #^&#^&#^&#^&ing fraud like the rest here in this forum.
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detbuch 05-21-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227070)
The lawyers claiming fraud exhibited consistent incompetence and failed to produce evidence.

Dismissing for lack of standing is not so for lack of evidence.

Con men who don’t have evidence and have a history of not paying end up with press conferences at Four Seasons Landscaping and lose in court.

Insinuation by name calling is a tactic, not an argument.

It would be interesting to see what the 2016 results would have been without Comeys announcement but any point would be moot now
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It would be interesting to see what the 2020 results would have been if the Hunter Biden laptop info had not been suppressed and characterized as Russian disinformation.

wdmso 05-21-2022 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227080)
It would be interesting to see what the 2020 results would have been if the Hunter Biden laptop info had not been suppressed and characterized as Russian disinformation.

It was suppressed every one knew about it!

How much money did Ivanka and Jared make while in the White House…. Also get back to me when Hunter has a job in the White House all with out congressional approval


Trump Ordered Officials to Give Jared Kushner a Security Clearance

But but hunter..
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detbuch 05-21-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227084)
It was suppressed every one knew about it!
]

Yes, it was suppressed, that's why "every one" didn't know about it. And what was "known" about it by those who were even aware of its existence, is that it was characterized (falsely) as Russian disinformation by the legacy media, and Twitter, and Face Book, and YouTube (the very outlets that suppressed the details and discussion of it and the sources that the majority of political seekers count on for information)--which, for most other than MAGA folks, made it not worth thinking about. Even you lefties on this forum were persuaded by fake news that it was indeed Russian disinformation and repeatedly posted that it was and therefor dismissed it as not worth discussing.

Polls estimated anywhere from 4.6% to 20% of those who voted for Biden would not have voted for him if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--including enough of a switch in votes that Trump would have won. A poll estimated that only 45.1 percent of Biden voters knew much, if anything, about the Hunter Biden email scandal.

Pete F. 05-22-2022 07:02 AM

But her emails worked so let’s try but his emails
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Pete F. 05-22-2022 07:36 AM

Russia has just banned 963 citizens of the US, including President Biden, VP Harris, and John McCain (wtf?).

But they didn't ban Trump. I wonder why
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Raider Ronnie 05-22-2022 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227099)
Russia has just banned 963 citizens of the US, including President Biden, VP Harris, and John McCain (wtf?).

But they didn't ban Trump. I wonder why
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But Russia,,,,,,,





https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary...nk-11653084709
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Pete F. 05-22-2022 08:06 AM

Trump, Tucker Carlson & Mark Meadows shared the CPAC stage w/ pro-Putin Hungarian autocrat Viktor Orban who called for a “worldwide conservative takeover” by “our troops”

The traitorous, anti-American GOP is literally plotting w/ a foreign power to overturn our democracy

Again
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The Dad Fisherman 05-22-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227099)
But they didn't ban Trump. I wonder why
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……or Elizabeth Warren

We need to impeach her

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Jim in CT 05-22-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1227103)
……or Elizabeth Warren

We need to impeach her

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twice, for good measure.
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Pete F. 05-22-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227105)
twice, for good measure.
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Was she selling out her country?

The Justice Department sued the former casino mogul Stephen Wynn on Tuesday, saying he had made repeated requests on behalf of the Chinese government to Donald J. Trump when he was president and seeking to force Mr. Wynn to register as a foreign agent.

In 2017, Mr. Wynn pushed Mr. Trump to deport a Chinese businessman who had sought asylum in the United States, according to the lawsuit. At the time, Mr. Wynn was the finance chairman of the Republican National Committee, a role he had been handpicked for by Mr. Trump.
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wdmso 05-22-2022 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227089)
Yes, it was suppressed, that's why "every one" didn't know about it. And what was "known" about it by those who were even aware of its existence, is that it was characterized (falsely) as Russian disinformation by the legacy media, and Twitter, and Face Book, and YouTube (the very outlets that suppressed the details and discussion of it and the sources that the majority of political seekers count on for information)--which, for most other than MAGA folks, made it not worth thinking about. Even you lefties on this forum were persuaded by fake news that it was indeed Russian disinformation and repeatedly posted that it was and therefor dismissed it as not worth discussing.

Polls estimated anywhere from 4.6% to 20% of those who voted for Biden would not have voted for him if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--including enough of a switch in votes that Trump would have won. A poll estimated that only 45.1 percent of Biden voters knew much, if anything, about the Hunter Biden email scandal.

if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--

Please post them I’d love to see what your taking about
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detbuch 05-22-2022 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227110)
if they had been aware of the Hunter Biden laptop messages--

Please post them I’d love to see what your taking about
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You always tell Jim to do research. Do it yourself.

Pete F. 05-23-2022 03:53 AM

Hunter Biden’s laptop is Republican propaganda designed to distract from Steve Mnuchin’s 18 trips to the Persian Gulf, Jared Kushner’s $2 Billion investment from Saudi Arabia, Donald Trump’s secret Chinese bank account, and Ivanka Trump’s trademarks on Chinese coffins & bodybags.
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wdmso 05-23-2022 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227117)
You always tell Jim to do research. Do it yourself.

I did they don’t exist at least not the ones you suggested should. Have changed the election. It’s odd you think the release of supposedly Hunters info from a stolen illegally copied hard drive is Hard evidence of misconduct and he’s not a government official

But all the actual text messages not stolen. and emails from those who tried to overturn the election and are elected officials are. Irrelevant ..

Funny how that works
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Jim in CT 05-23-2022 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227121)
I did they don’t exist at least not the ones you suggested should. Have changed the election. It’s odd you think the release of supposedly Hunters info from a stolen illegally copied hard drive is Hard evidence of misconduct and he’s not a government official

But all the actual text messages not stolen. and emails from those who tried to overturn the election and are elected officials are. Irrelevant ..

Funny how that works
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So Joe Biden setting his no. government official
up to make zillions, and then lying repeatedly about it ( he said he has never once spoken to his son about business, when he has golfed and traveled with Bunter and his partners). means nothing?

there’s a reason why the media and big tech buried the story wayne. they went to great lengths to bury it.

but Biden is. democrat, so it’s ok. just like it’s ok that congressional democrats tried to undermine the 2016 election with no valid reason other than they did t like the outcome

Awful when the GOP tried it, not worth mentioning when the democrats did it.

Because false equivalence.
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detbuch 05-23-2022 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227121)
I did they don’t exist at least not the ones you suggested should. Have changed the election.
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The various statistics and poll do exist. Not hard to find.

Pete F. 05-24-2022 05:17 AM

$3.5 BILLION for Jared and Mnuchin. No wonder the right is taking so much about Hunter Biden.
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wdmso 05-24-2022 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1227122)
So Joe Biden setting his no. government official
up to make zillions, and then lying repeatedly about it ( he said he has never once spoken to his son about business, when he has golfed and traveled with Bunter and his partners). means nothing?

there’s a reason why the media and big tech buried the story wayne. they went to great lengths to bury it.

but Biden is. democrat, so it’s ok. just like it’s ok that congressional democrats tried to undermine the 2016 election with no valid reason other than they did t like the outcome

Awful when the GOP tried it, not worth mentioning when the democrats did it.

Because false equivalence.
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in your world a yugo and a Benently are the same because they both have 4 wheels ....

must be nice to live in your world :faga:

wdmso 05-24-2022 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1227138)
The various statistics and poll do exist. Not hard to find.

not looking for the Polls looking for the actual emails ... not the ones the right insist exist .. kinda like all that voter fraud

Pete F. 05-24-2022 07:21 AM

Detbuch is right in the heartland of voter fraud.
The Michigan state elections bureau determined mass fraud was perpetrated by 18 people who were paid to collect signatures for Republican candidate Craig. Almost 10,000 of his 21,000 were forged.
It’s always projection.
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detbuch 05-24-2022 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227160)
not looking for the Polls looking for the actual emails ... not the ones the right insist exist .. kinda like all that voter fraud

Are you saying that what's in Hunter's laptop is disinformation?

Jim in CT 05-24-2022 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1227160)
not looking for the Polls looking for the actual emails ... not the ones the right insist exist .. kinda like all that voter fraud

why do you suppose the media and big tech buried the story? for no reason at all?
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detbuch 05-24-2022 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1227162)
Detbuch is right in the heartland of voter fraud.
The Michigan state elections bureau determined mass fraud was perpetrated by 18 people who were paid to collect signatures for Republican candidate Craig. Almost 10,000 of his 21,000 were forged.
It’s always projection.
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Voter fraud doesn't exist . . . wellllll . . . maybe if you can catch some Republicans, well then . . . yeah.

In the meantime, from your far left Salon's article "The candidates argued that they are the victims of the scheme, not the perpetrators. The bureau said it does not currently 'have reason to believe that any specific candidates or campaigns were aware of the activities of fraudulent-petition circulators.' "

Among the 18, one was Democrat (that's surely a mistake, Democrats don't do fraud), and nine were independents (No Way--independents?--Independents surely wouldn't do fraud--fraud, if it actually exists, is done by Republicans).

The final decision to disqualify has not been made yet. "The Board of Canvassers, which has two Democrats and two Republicans, will review the bureau's findings on Thursday and will determine whether to accept the bureau's recommendation to disqualify the candidates. It would take three of four members to reject the bureau's findings though candidates can still take the issue to court."

Pete F. 05-25-2022 04:57 AM

I don’t know about an article in Salon but “the eighteen” doesn’t refer to the number of candidates.
And yes among the candidates who had ineligible signatures was A Democrat

Joseph Alfonso: 959 valid signatures, 68 invalid signatures (needed 1,000, 4th District Congress, Holland, Democrat
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