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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229758)
Meanwhile the party that claims to be for freedom in the past week has:
- 209 House Republicans voted against abortion rights
- 205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality
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being opposed to infanticide, isn’t inconsistent with being for individual liberty.

Your simpleminded brain only allows you to look at this from the mother’s point of view. That’s clearly one point of view to consider. But there’s another point of view that’s also part of this

You’re callous enough to ignore the perspective of the innocent, defenseless baby. That’s your problem, not my problem.

Caring about protecting an in i ent baby, is in no way i consistent with conservatism

Given what’s likely about to happen to your side, perhaps you should be worried about what your side believes, and less worried about what my side believes

Here’s a true hypocrisy. The party that claims to care about choice, denies school choice. The party that claims to care about women, insists that they compete physically against men.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229763)
being opposed to infanticide, isn’t inconsistent with being for individual liberty.

Your simpleminded brain only allows you to look at this from the mother’s point of view. That’s clearly one point of view to consider. But there’s another point of view that’s also part of this

You’re callous enough to ignore the perspective of the innocent, defenseless baby. That’s your problem, not my problem.

Caring about protecting an in i ent baby, is in no way i consistent with conservatism

Given what’s likely about to happen to your side, perhaps you should be worried about what your side believes, and less worried about what my side believes

Here’s a true hypocrisy. The party that claims to care about choice, denies school choice. The party that claims to care about women, insists that they compete physically against men.
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Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.

The Trumplican party is far more extreme than Americans

205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality

Trump is planning on being the 2024 candidate and can win the GQP primary
You ain’t seen nothing yet
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229769)
Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.

The Trumplican party is far more extreme than Americans

205 House Republicans voted against protecting interstate travel for reproductive care
- 195 House Republicans voted against protecting contraception access
- 157 House Republicans voted against marriage equality

Trump is planning on being the 2024 candidate and can win the GQP primary
You ain’t seen nothing yet
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im not a victim. my side is getting ready to pulverize your side. What did i say, that you could possibly infer as my playing the victim card? i mean, how could you possibly conclude that?

i agree 100% that trump running in 2024 would be bad for the gop.
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scottw 07-22-2022 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229769)

Poor victim,
Left to your own, public education would end, transsexuals would be hung and GQP membership would be required for government employment.


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you really need some psychological counseling....

scottw 07-22-2022 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229770)

im not a victim.

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what is GQP? just curious...sounds like pete believes you are a member....

Pete F. 07-22-2022 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229770)
im not a victim. my side is getting ready to pulverize your side. What did i say, that you could possibly infer as my playing the victim card? i mean, how could you possibly conclude that?

i agree 100% that trump running in 2024 would be bad for the gop.
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So you think we better run to the polls like Josh Hawley ran from the insurrection?
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1229774)
you really need some psychological counseling....

the voices he must hear…
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229779)
So you think we better run to the polls like Josh Hawley ran from the insurrection?
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I think no matter what you do, your side is going to take a decent beating in 2022. and if polling is correct with regards to hispanics, your party really needs to go back to the drawing board. Huge numbers of hispanics are catholic, and actual devout catholics, not phony catholics like Biden. They do not like the demented social policies the left is shoving in our faces.

i’ve said a million times that if the left could nominate a normal, actual
moderate ( like the 1992 version of bill clinton), that person would
win 35+ states in a general election. that’s what america wants today.

But the DNC is a million miles to the left of that right now. that’s not what america wants.

it’s interesting. america liked obama ( for no good reason), but didn’t like his policies. America despised trump ( for perfectly valid reasons) but liked his policies. Trump wasn’t a crazy conservative. advocating for criminal justice reform was a liberal policy. but america wanted it.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 09:15 AM

I’m not as worried as you

Pennsylvania Lt. Governor John Fetterman has launched a petition seeking to induct Dr. Oz into the New Jersey State Hall of Fame.

Is there any doubt that if Josh Hawley was a passenger on Titanic, he would have shoved aside women and children to grab one of the first seats on a lifeboat?

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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229802)
I’m not as worried as you



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Right. Your posts indicate nothing but confidence Pete.

Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:21 AM

NEW poll of the Ohio Senate race:
Tim Ryan (D) 46%
JD Vance (Moscow) 41%
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:24 AM

Here’s the GQPs winning strategy

96% of House Republicans voted against people having the freedom to use contraceptives.
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229817)
NEW poll of the Ohio Senate race:
Tim Ryan (D) 46%
JD Vance (Moscow) 41%
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Is that the only election happening in November? Any house races? Any state races?

Ive said, I don't think the GOP takes the US senate, the democrats got lucky with which seats are up, not many vulnerable incumbent democrats in this rotation.

Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:28 AM

As he was walking on an elevator yesterday, GOP Sen. “little” Marco Rubio said that a vote on a bill to codify gay marriage was a "stupid waste of time."#^&
#^&
But when he said that, there was another senator on the elevator who heard him: Tammy Baldwin, who is gay.
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229821)
As he was walking on an elevator yesterday, GOP Sen. “little” Marco Rubio said that a vote on a bill to codify gay marriage was a "stupid waste of time."#^&
#^&
But when he said that, there was another senator on the elevator who heard him: Tammy Baldwin, who is gay.
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So not all that long ago, when Obama and Hilary both stated very clearly that they opposed gay marriage for religious reasons, what was your reaction?

Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:34 AM

GQP platform

- Outlaw abortion nationwide
- End Medicare & Social Security
- Put a gun in every hand
- Outlaw same-sex marriage
- Outlaw contraception
- Let politicians decide election outcomes
- End the separation of church & state
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229824)
GQP platform

- Outlaw abortion nationwide
- End Medicare & Social Security
- Put a gun in every hand
- Outlaw same-sex marriage
- Outlaw contraception
- Let politicians decide election outcomes
- End the separation of church & state
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you gotta wonder why the gop didn’t pursue any of those things when they had the white house and congress. they’d were just too stupid i guess.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:42 AM

GQP had years to pass an alternative to Obamacare
Never did it
GQP had years to pass infrastructure
Never did it
Just the party of NO

Well, I've always been told if you don't stand for something, you will fall for anything. I think that explains a lot!
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:53 AM

A man who organized buses to Washington on Jan. 6, tweeted during the riot that Vice President Mike Pence was a “traitor,” tried to impeach Governor Larry Hogan, and spoke at a QAnon conference, just won the Republican nomination for Maryland governor.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 10:58 AM

The Trumplican party is not unlike an organized political mafia. Disloyalty is harshly punished. Members are bound by a code of silence as they watch other members commit crimes against our political system. They shake down/threaten businesses. Females are 2nd class. How is it so different?
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 11:01 AM

Another “Squad” progressive just lost in the Democratic primary in MD4 to a “Biden Democrat.”

While Republicans keep trying to elect extremists, pro insurrection candidates across the country, Democrats are(mostly) nominating more centrist-Biden Democrats candidates.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 11:05 AM

Would it be an exaggeration to say that Herschel Walker is the dumbest person in recent American history to run for the senate?
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 11:07 AM

64% of independents hold Trump responsible for the Jan. 6 attack, and 59% hold “Trump Republicans in Congress” responsible as well.#^&
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 11:23 AM

pete you really need help.
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 11:27 AM

Pelosis husband, the drunk, buys a chip company just ahead of a congressional vote on chip subsidies.

Does it look fishy? Or does the fact that we’re talking about a democrat, provide sufficient proof that nothing wrong took place?
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229833)
64% of independents hold Trump responsible for the Jan. 6 attack, and 59% hold “Trump Republicans in Congress” responsible as well.#^&
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problem is, the same people who hold him responsible, say the economy is a bigger concern.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 11:32 AM

Criminalizing birth control and abortion isn’t popular.

Picking on gay kids isn’t popular.

Banning books isn’t popular.

Eliminating Obamacare isn’t popular.

Enabling criminal Presidents isn’t popular.

Democrats will take the fight to Republicans on their hard, mean, spiteful turn to the right.
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229841)
Criminalizing birth control and abortion isn’t popular.

Picking on gay kids isn’t popular.

Banning books isn’t popular.

Eliminating Obamacare isn’t popular.

Enabling criminal Presidents isn’t popular.

Democrats will take the fight to Republicans on their hard, mean, spiteful turn to the right.
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every poll says people care about the economy more.
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PaulS 07-22-2022 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229831)
Would it be an exaggeration to say that Herschel Walker is the dumbest person in recent American history to run for the senate?
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stop defaming former FBI agents.

Pete F. 07-22-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229843)
every poll says people care about the economy more.
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FUN FACT: Of the 45 million jobs created since 1989, 43 million — nearly 96% — have been created under Democratic presidents.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 11:54 AM

Since Reagan, the only actual policy the GOP has had has been "take all the money there is and give it to people who are already rich."

That's it. Nothing else.

And they used racism to misdirect while they did it.
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Jim in CT 07-22-2022 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229847)
FUN FACT: Of the 45 million jobs created since 1989, 43 million — nearly 96% — have been created under Democratic presidents.
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Most jobs under Biden weren't created. They were restored after we opened back up.

You just aren't capable of honesty unless it totally favors the left.

So Biden owns the jobs that were restored, but not the covid deaths, not the inflation, not the crime spike, not the increase in illegal immigration, not the skyrocketing interest rates, not any of the things that are making life harder.

In other words, you give him credit for all the good things, but no blame for the bad things.

That's not how sane people evaluate a president. It would be convenient for you if you could get people to buy into that logic, but they don't.

Pete F. 07-22-2022 12:03 PM

FACT: Biden has cut the deficit by more this year than any President in history.
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229851)
Most jobs under Biden weren't created. They were restored after we opened back up.

You just aren't capable of honesty unless it totally favors the left.

So Biden owns the jobs that were restored, but not the covid deaths, not the inflation, not the crime spike, not the increase in illegal immigration, not the skyrocketing interest rates, not any of the things that are making life harder.

In other words, you give him credit for all the good things, but no blame for the bad things.

That's not how sane people evaluate a president. It would be convenient for you if you could get people to buy into that logic, but they don't.

Baloney

so then should you chastise republicans that vote against efforts to reduce the economic impact on people ? every republican voted no on the gas price gouging bill, american rescue plan, build back better, and climate change package that would all add large amounts of jobs ?
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Pete F. 07-22-2022 01:44 PM

Old conservative argument: judges shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal.

New conservative argument: Congress shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal
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Jim in CT 07-23-2022 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229861)
Old conservative argument: judges shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal.

New conservative argument: Congress shouldn't be determining if gay marriage is legal
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yet you were ok when obama
and hilary opposed gay marriage, and they did so for religious reasons. it was ok when they did it.
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Jim in CT 07-23-2022 03:33 PM

CBS reporting on the Lee Zeldin attack, states that “Zeldin says” he was attacked.

they can’t just say he was attacked. They have tonstatebthatbwerentakung Zeldins word for it, that there’s no video or charges filed against the atta let

“Enemy of the people” isn’t that far off. Imply he’s making it up, because he has an R after his name.
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Pete F. 07-23-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229897)
yet you were ok when obama
and hilary opposed gay marriage, and they did so for religious reasons. it was ok when they did it.
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That’s a great example of why originalism is defective, things change, society changes and failure to accept that can lock you into an unacceptable position.
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Pete F. 07-23-2022 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1229898)
CBS reporting on the Lee Zeldin attack, states that “Zeldin says” he was attacked.

they can’t just say he was attacked. They have tonstatebthatbwerentakung Zeldins word for it, that there’s no video or charges filed against the atta let

“Enemy of the people” isn’t that far off. Imply he’s making it up, because he has an R after his name.
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What are you being victimized by now?

NY GOP rep Lee Zeldin is blaming the release of the man who allegedly attacked him on bail reform.

The man was released because the DA very strangely charged him with a non-bail eligible offense. That DA - Sandra Doorley - is co-chair of Zeldin's campaign.
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Jim in CT 07-23-2022 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1229904)
That’s a great example of why originalism is defective, things change, society changes and failure to accept that can lock you into an unacceptable position.
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yes things changed. as soon as public opinion polling said it would benefit them, then they were in favor of gay marriage. how principled!!
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