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wdmso 09-08-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232462)
how could you possibly conclude that was my point? That was very very stupid even for you.

Obama, regardless of his skin color, obviously isnt worried about oceans rising.

you tried to make that a racist remark? seriously? you cannot be taken seriously here.

our construction czar flies around in a private jet, which tells me he isn’t concerned about the effect of a big carbon footprint on the environment.


Seeing I had no idea him buying a house was such news

yet seems i wasn't far off seeing fox ran an op-ed about the subject

suggesting it was about “Too many in Democratic leadership peddle the politics of envy and victimhood to grab power, wealth and success for themselves,” she said.

FYI my comment was sarcasm




Yet 99.9 % of Republicans aren't worried about oceans rising.:btu:

many of the rich aren't concerned seeing it will impact them the least

and how is buying a house equal to not concerned in the ocean risings

I just don't see How he even ties into the topic..

other than what pete suggested you think obama a hypocrite for buying a house on an island :btu:

Jim in CT 09-08-2022 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1232467)
Seeing I had no idea him buying a house was such news

yet seems i wasn't far off seeing fox ran an op-ed about the subject

suggesting it was about “Too many in Democratic leadership peddle the politics of envy and victimhood to grab power, wealth and success for themselves,” she said.

FYI my comment was sarcasm




Yet 99.9 % of Republicans aren't worried about oceans rising.:btu:

many of the rich aren't concerned seeing it will impact them the least

and how is buying a house equal to not concerned in the ocean risings

I just don't see How he even ties into the topic..

other than what pete suggested you think obama a hypocrite for buying a house on an island :btu:

him buying a house is news to those who truly believe manhattan is going to be underwater soon.

Got Stripers 09-08-2022 03:37 PM

Only Jim could conclude Obama buying a home on the vineyard equates to him having no concern about ocean rising. Was the house on stilts right on the beach Jim or well away from the ocean rising which, unless your brain dead, is likely to impact future generations, not us old farts. Could it be he is concerned but loves the island and wants to spend much of his golden years there?

Pete F. 09-08-2022 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232464)
never said it can’t happen because of the example set by the biggest mouths in this movement. As often happens, a liberal is responding to something no one ever said. What i said, was question whether or not it should happen, whether or not it needs to happen.

Why is it a red herring if I say this….let’s all be held to the same standard, let’s all be asked to make the same sacrifices. If Al Gore and Barack Obama and John Kerry have a carbon footprint that’s acceptable ( and since none of you can ever bring yourselves to criticize those guys, let’s assume it’s acceptable), why isn’t it acceptable if we all have the same carbon footprint?

Wayne, FYI, now i’m being critical of two white guys and a black guy, is that racial makeup acceptable to you? Because we can throw Leonardo Decaprio and Steven Spielberg in the list if that makes the aggregate skin pigmentation ( which is always important to liberals) tolerable to you.

Of course, every single Republican voted against climate change legislation

Republicans fight climate change laws because they’re paid to.
Republicans fight gun control laws because they’re paid to.
Republicans fight unions and living wages because they’re paid to.
Republicans fight healthcare for all because they’re paid to.
Any questions?
Maybe who owns the GOP?
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Jim in CT 09-08-2022 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1232471)
Only Jim could conclude Obama buying a home on the vineyard equates to him having no concern about ocean rising. Was the house on stilts right on the beach Jim or well away from the ocean rising which, unless your brain dead, is likely to impact future generations, not us old farts. Could it be he is concerned but loves the island and wants to spend much of his golden years there?

you said your housemaid going to be beachfront. i asked yiu hiwnthat jibes with obama buying beach houses in martha’s vineyard and hawaii. that tells me that obama isn’t concerned about the oceans rising significantly. What other conclusion is there.

you’re saying it’s ok for obama to have a massive carbon footprint. does everyine have the right to the same carbon footprint? that’s the key question.

Got Stripers 09-08-2022 05:45 PM

All I can say Jim is if that’s proof to you Obama isn’t concerned about global warming and sea level rise, I wil let you make a fool of yourself all by yourself. You do realize certain property purchases and locations are decades from being impacted by sea level rises, please share with us the elevation above sea level these Obama purchases that prove your silly case.

Jim in CT 09-08-2022 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1232479)
All I can say Jim is if that’s proof to you Obama isn’t concerned about global warming and sea level rise, I wil let you make a fool of yourself all by yourself. You do realize certain property purchases and locations are decades from being impacted by sea level rises, please share with us the elevation above sea level these Obama purchases that prove your silly case.

ok. so he did the math, and his house won’t be underwater until he’s gone, and he leaves the underwater mansion to the girls.

it’s very convenient that therefore, he can leave the biggest carbon footprint he feels like leaving.

for the second time, do we all have the right to the same carbon footprint that Obama has? any reason why you don’t want to answer that question?

Pete F. 09-08-2022 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232481)
ok. so he did the math, and his house won’t be underwater until he’s gone, and he leaves the underwater mansion to the girls.

it’s very convenient that therefore, he can leave the biggest carbon footprint he feels like leaving.

for the second time, do we all have the right to the same carbon footprint that Obama has? any reason why you don’t want to answer that question?

Poor victim

We all need to do what we can, the things Tucker is telling you are silly, just like his theory that real men tan their testicles.
How do you know what anyone else has done about climate challenges?
You make assumptions and convict them based on what you heard, and then like a typical wannabe, won’t do anything unless you get a participation award.
Bill Engvall has a sign for you
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Jim in CT 09-08-2022 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1232483)
Poor victim

We all need to do what we can, the things Tucker is telling you are silly, just like his theory that real men tan their testicles.
How do you know what anyone else has done about climate challenges?
You make assumptions and convict them based on what you heard, and then like a typical wannabe, won’t do anything unless you get a participation award.
Bill Engvall has a sign for you
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i know that flying private is about as environmentally friendly, as burning tires in my backyard.

You’re terrified of this question…can we all have multiple mansions and fly private jets? or do only some folks have the right to that luxury?

Pete F. 09-09-2022 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232484)
i know that flying private is about as environmentally friendly, as burning tires in my backyard.

You’re terrified of this question…can we all have multiple mansions and fly private jets? or do only some folks have the right to that luxury?

Quaking, rather than engage in substantive debate about the science of climate change, and the apocalyptic effect it will have on our lives, you resort to personal attacks.
Let’s first acknowledge the fact this criticism is a logical fallacy, an ad hominem, that in no way refutes the existence of global warming or addresses its accompanying issues. Criticizing an environmentalist for flying too much is a diversion, a red herring, meant to derail us from having a real conversation about global warming, because any real conversation about global warming ends with us realizing how enormous and urgent the issue is.
The “fly too much” criticism shifts the blame from the actually guilty parties — oil companies, and the governments and financial systems who support them — to the environmental advocate, making him a scapegoat. Instead of a systemic problem, it transforms global warming into a personal problem. The jet-setting environmentalist is turned into a convenient villain, and branded a hypocrite.

Or are you now a socialist?

The rest of the MAGA world is having a full meltdown over CA keeping the power on during an unprecedented heat wave while Greg Abbott in TX couldn't.
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Jim in CT 09-09-2022 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1232487)
Quaking, rather than engage in substantive debate about the science of climate change, and the apocalyptic effect it will have on our lives, you resort to personal attacks.
Let’s first acknowledge the fact this criticism is a logical fallacy, an ad hominem, that in no way refutes the existence of global warming or addresses its accompanying issues. Criticizing an environmentalist for flying too much is a diversion, a red herring, meant to derail us from having a real conversation about global warming, because any real conversation about global warming ends with us realizing how enormous and urgent the issue is.
The “fly too much” criticism shifts the blame from the actually guilty parties — oil companies, and the governments and financial systems who support them — to the environmental advocate, making him a scapegoat. Instead of a systemic problem, it transforms global warming into a personal problem. The jet-setting environmentalist is turned into a convenient villain, and branded a hypocrite.

Or are you now a socialist?

The rest of the MAGA world is having a full meltdown over CA keeping the power on during an unprecedented heat wave while Greg Abbott in TX couldn't.
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if climate change will have an apocalyptic effect on the planet, why do so many of the biggest mouths in that movement, have massive carbon footprints? it doesn’t look like john kerry believes what you’re saying. If you’re right, and we all lived like Obama and Hihn Kerry and Al Gore, wes all be up the creek without a paddle, tight?

fine let’s have a debate. a short time ago it was global
warming. them that was disproved, donnie it’s more of a blanket term, climate change. None of the dire predictions made by this group have come true. Tells me the models are flawed with bad assumptions.

i spend more time in the water and in the woods than most. I wants. healthy environment. I believe things are changing, I believe man is likely having an effect. I’m nowhere near convinced that the outcome will be an apocalypse. And again, on what basis would you say that Obama and Gore and Kerry believe what they’re selling? Their choices indicate that they are choosing personal luxury over the environment. So who gets to crap all over the planet to live in luxury, and who is supposed to make actual sacrifices?

I have a big solar system covering both sides of my roof and drive. Nissan Leaf.

Pete F. 09-09-2022 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232488)
if climate change will have an apocalyptic effect on the planet, why do so many of the biggest mouths in that movement, have massive carbon footprints? it doesn’t look like john kerry believes what you’re saying. If you’re right, and we all lived like Obama and Hihn Kerry and Al Gore, wes all be up the creek without a paddle, tight?

fine let’s have a debate. a short time ago it was global
warming. them that was disproved, donnie it’s more of a blanket term, climate change. None of the dire predictions made by this group have come true. Tells me the models are flawed with bad assumptions.

i spend more time in the water and in the woods than most. I wants. healthy environment. I believe things are changing, I believe man is likely having an effect. I’m nowhere near convinced that the outcome will be an apocalypse. And again, on what basis would you say that Obama and Gore and Kerry believe what they’re selling? Their choices indicate that they are choosing personal luxury over the environment. So who gets to crap all over the planet to live in luxury, and who is supposed to make actual sacrifices?

I have a big solar system covering both sides of my roof and drive. Nissan Leaf.

Global warming is not disproved.

The most effective methods for combating climate change are using renewable energy, optimizing energy use and preventing energy loss. These are areas we can address, today, that don’t require seismic shifts in how we live.
One strategy is to reduce carbon emissions for shorter forms of travel. We can subsidize the production and sales of electric cars. We can promote the development of high-speed electric railway systems that offer a green alternative to short- and mid-range flights.

It’s always easier to complain than act.

Do you have a Bernie sticker on your leaf?
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scottw 09-09-2022 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1232490)

It’s always easier to complain than act.


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let us know when you and the leftist contingent here get your electric cars and solar panels and dump your gas powered engines...:claps:

Jim in CT 09-09-2022 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1232490)
Global warming is not disproved.

The most effective methods for combating climate change are using renewable energy, optimizing energy use and preventing energy loss. These are areas we can address, today, that don’t require seismic shifts in how we live.
One strategy is to reduce carbon emissions for shorter forms of travel. We can subsidize the production and sales of electric cars. We can promote the development of high-speed electric railway systems that offer a green alternative to short- and mid-range flights.

It’s always easier to complain than act.

Do you have a Bernie sticker on your leaf?
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as always when i make a valid point, you lob weak general insults. I am acting. i’m driving a tiny little car instead of a more comfortable gas guzzling sedan, and then only reason i’m doing it is because i think I should.

but you cannot ever criticize your side. And despite your claim that you’re not afraid of the question i asked 4-5 times, you have t come close to answering it. You just try to move on.

wdmso 09-09-2022 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1232491)
let us know when you and the leftist contingent here get your electric cars and solar panels and dump your gas powered engines...:claps:

Such a simplistic view for a complex issue :claps: from the resident Bomb thrower :sleeps:

Pete F. 09-09-2022 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1232495)
as always when i make a valid point, you lob weak general insults. I am acting. i’m driving a tiny little car instead of a more comfortable gas guzzling sedan, and then only reason i’m doing it is because i think I should.

but you cannot ever criticize your side. And despite your claim that you’re not afraid of the question i asked 4-5 times, you have t come close to answering it. You just try to move on.

I answered it
You don’t like the answer

“Now Jim has no idea if any of the people he has heard Fox cite as hypocrites combined trips, chose not to take trips or used one of the numerous mechanisms to offset their carbon footprint by any amount.
But that wouldn’t enhance his victimhood, would it?
But we all know he’s Stable Genius II and really really, like smart.”
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