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“And we fight. We fight like hell And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.” “All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they’re doing … We will never give up, we will never concede. It doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved.” “Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about … We will stop the steal.” “Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness, you have to show strength and you have to be strong.” Schumer gets a complete free pass for explicitly threatening Kavanaugh. But you're not partisan, no sirr-eee. Video of Hilary... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkYImjpllu4 |
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“Right wing extremists already have a plan to steal the next presidential election. And they’re not making a secret of it. The right wing-controlled Supreme Court may be poised to rule on giving state legislatures the power to overturn presidential elections, if that happens the 2024 election could be determined by Republican-controlled state legislatures rather than the popular vote or the “anachronistic electoral college” but by states legislatures. So everything she said is all true. How is throwing out the votes of the population and having the state legislature saying who won not "stealing" an election? Isn't that what you hear Russia doing and 3rd world countries do, for which we rightly criticize? |
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it’s only bad when republicans make baseless accusations of theft. having legislatures certify elections is stealing, if they undo the results of the election. if they just certify what actually happened, how is that theft, Einstein? everything, absolutely everything is ok when liberals do it. Schumer can explicitly threaten a supreme court judge. no problem, he’s a democrat!!kavanaugh can just call the police. that comment, that schumer didn’t do anything wrong because kavanaugh can call police, is when your credibility joined Pete’s and wayne’s. using your logic, pelosi could have just called the police. heck they were already watching his house, they just missed it. using your logic, it’s not trumps fault. |
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paul it was a very weak argument even by democrat standards. Schumer has no blame, because kavanaugh can just call a cop if he’s threatened. Why doesn’t that apply to paul pelosi? Not only did Schumer threaten Kavanaugh, the feds also ignored federal law and let people protest outside Kavanaughs house. |
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You finally got something right. I sure don’t get it. Don’t get how you guys keep a straight face. If you can’t criticize Schumer, then unless trump put a contract out on Pelosi, you’ve got no business saying anything about Trump connected to it. Did Trump win fair and square in 2016? If so, why was it ok for hilary to be an election denier? |
If so, why was it ok for hilary to be an election denier?
You get that from a cult meeting? Now you are changing the definition what election denial is.. Clinton concedes to Trump: 'We owe him an open mind' What happen to having standards Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
The last words the jury heard before the prosecutors rested their case - Defendant Elmer Rhodes saying: “We should have brought rifles. We could have fixed it right then & there. I’d hang f**king Pelosi from the lamppost.” In the courtroom, you could have heard a firing pin drop.
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I'm making that up? And she's already saying the GOP is stealing the 2024 election. |
Marjorie Taylor Greene got the Trump rally crowd to boo Paul Pelosi. In case you were wondering where the Republican Party is in 2022.
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Did read what she said Hillary Clinton questions the integrity of 2024 election by already claiming 'right-wing extremists have a plan to STEAL it Didn’t see the GOP mentioned And Jim what makes you think she’s wrong. Why is what Hillary is saying upsetting you? But the long list of Republicans election denialists running for office And have already tried. What makes you think they won’t Try again? You could ask Clarence Thomas seeing he was pivotal to the last attempt Doesn’t even get a comment from you Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
“They had a damn insider on SCOTUS”: Experts alarmed after Trump lawyer emails inadvertently leak
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With a map in hand, the activist zeroed in on sprawling Maricopa County, home to Phoenix and 60 percent of the state’s voters, and called for breaking it into four counties, one that would concentrate most Democrats and three that would favor Republicans.
GOP officials at every level who could thwart an election outcome unfavorable to the party. “Get a compliant governor,” Adams said, describing the strategy. “Get a compliant secretary of state. Get compliant legislative leadership.” But the rights upset that Hillary said they have a plan I just posted their plan not just for Arizona Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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hmmmm....curious..."NBC News reported significant new details in the investigation into last week’s attack on Paul Pelosi on Friday — and then promptly retracted the report as soon as those details began circulating online."
"In a Today Show segment that aired Friday morning, NBC News anchor Miguel Almaguer reported that Pelosi reacted in an unusual way to the arrival of police officers after calling 911 because a deranged, underwear-clad man had broken into his house and was searching for his wife, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. “The front door was opened by Mr. Pelosi. He did not declare an emergency or try to leave his home, instead began walking several feet back towards the assailant and away from police,” Almaguer reported, citing “sources familiar with what unfolded in the Pelosi residence.” |
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How Republicans Fed a Misinformation Loop About the Pelosi Attack By Annie Karni, Malika Khurana and Stuart A. Thompson Nov. 5, 2022 WASHINGTON — Within hours of the brutal attack last month on Paul Pelosi, the husband of the speaker of the House, activists and media outlets on the right began circulating groundless claims — nearly all of them sinister, and many homophobic — casting doubt on what had happened. Some Republican officials quickly joined in, rushing to suggest that the bludgeoning of an octogenarian by a suspect obsessed with right-wing conspiracy theories was something else altogether, dismissing it as an inside job, a lover’s quarrel or worse. The misinformation came from all levels of Republican politics. A U.S. senator circulated the view that “none of us will ever know” what really happened at the Pelosis’ San Francisco home. A senior Republican congressman referred to the attacker as a “nudist hippie male prostitute,” baselessly asserting that the suspect had a personal relationship with Mr. Pelosi. Former President Donald J. Trump questioned whether the attack might have been staged. The world’s richest man helped amplify the stories. But none of it was true. Here are 21 of the elected officials, candidates and other prominent figures who spread misinformation or cast doubt on the attack. In tweets, podcasts and TV appearances, these figures questioned whether the public was being told the full story of what happened and in some cases spread theories that were unfounded. Elected officials and candidates Photo of Senator Ted Cruz Senator Ted Cruz Republican of Texas Amplified doubts that all facts were being disclosed. Photo of Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene Republican of Georgia Suggested Mr. Pelosi knew his attacker. Photo of Representative Clay Higgins Representative Clay Higgins Republican of Louisiana Suggested the attack involved male prostitution. Photo of Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson Republican of North Carolina Raised doubts about the details of the attack. Photo of Mary Williams Benefield Mary Williams Benefield Republican statehouse candidate, Georgia Suggested the attack might have been staged. Photo of Royce White Royce White Republican statehouse candidate, Minnesota Claimed the attack involved an extramarital gay affair. Photo of State Senator Wendy Rogers State Senator Wendy Rogers Republican of Arizona Suggested the attack might have been staged. Photo of State Representative Anthony Sabatini State Representative Anthony Sabatini Republican of Florida Suggested that the Pelosis are hiding vital information. Photo of Representative Claudia Tenney Representative Claudia Tenney Republican of New York Amplified a conspiracy theory about an extramarital gay affair. Prominent figures Photo of Glenn Beck Glenn Beck Conservative commentator Raised doubts about the details of the attack. Photo of Tucker Carlson Tucker Carlson Fox News host Raised doubts about the details of the attack. Photo of Dinesh D’Souza Dinesh D’Souza Conservative commentator Claimed the attack involved an extramarital gay affair. Photo of Ryan Fournier Ryan Fournier Founder, Students for Trump Claimed details about the attacker were fabricated. Photo of Sebastian Gorka Sebastian Gorka Former Trump adviser and podcast host Raised doubts about the details of the attack. Photo of Pete Hegseth Pete Hegseth Fox News host Raised doubts that all facts were being disclosed. Photo of Megyn Kelly Megyn Kelly Talk show host Raised doubts that all facts were being disclosed. Photo of Elon Musk Elon Musk Chief executive of Twitter and Tesla Amplified a conspiracy theory about male prostitution. Photo of Devin Nunes Devin Nunes Former representative of California Repeated a false report that the attacker was in his underwear. Photo of Michael Savage Michael Savage Talk show host Raised doubts that all facts were being disclosed. Photo of Roger Stone Roger Stone Trump associate Suggested the attack was staged. Photo of Donald J. Trump Donald J. Trump Former president Suggested the attack was staged. The flood of falsehoods showed how ingrained misinformation has become inside the G.O.P., where the reflexive response of the rank and file — and even a few prominent figures — to anything that might cast a negative light on the right is to deflect with more fictional claims, creating a vicious cycle that muddies facts, shifts blame and minimizes violence. It happened after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol, which was inspired by Mr. Trump’s lie of a stolen election, and in turn gave rise to more falsehoods, as Republicans and their right-wing allies tried to play down, deny or invent a different story for what happened, including groundlessly blaming the F.B.I. and antifa. Mr. Pelosi’s attacker is said to have believed some of those tales. “This is the dynamic as it plays out,” said Brian Hughes, a professor at American University who studies radicalism and extremism. “The conspiracy theory prompts an act of violence; that act of violence needs to be disavowed, and it can only be disavowed by more conspiracy theories, which prompts more violence.” The Justice Department moved swiftly to bring criminal charges against the suspect in the attack, David DePape, 42, who prosecutors said broke into the Pelosi home intending to kidnap Ms. Pelosi and shatter her kneecaps, and assaulted her husband with a hammer, leaving him with a cracked skull. The San Francisco district attorney said it was imperative for prosecutors to present the facts to the public, given the misinformation circulating widely about the case. But by then, it was far too late. In a pattern that has become commonplace, a parade of Republicans — helped along by right-wing media personalities including the Fox New host Tucker Carlson, and prominent people including the newly installed Twitter owner Elon Musk, the world’s wealthiest man — had already abetted the viral spread of lies about the attack, distorting the account of what happened before facts could get in the way. Finding life on far-right websites and the so-called dark web, conspiracy theories and falsehoods leaped from the fringes to the mainstream. Fringe Websites and Mainstream Figures Thousands of posts containing conspiracy theories about the attack were shared on message boards, social media and in comments sections of popular far-right sites, according to data from Pyrra, a company that tracks fringe social media. As the chatter picked up, several elected officials and mainstream right-wing influencers also shared their doubts about the attack. Comments from fringe websites mentioning ... “Prostitute” or similar terms Other sex-related conspiracy theories Doubts about the official account 12:23 p.m. A Fox affiliate in San Francisco reports that the attacker was found in his underwear. The error was later corrected. Each comment FRIDAY, OCT. 28 6 P.M. A conspiracy theory circulates widely that the attack was the result of a sexual affair. 9 P.M. SATURDAY 3 A.M. 6 A.M. 9 A.M. NOON 3 P.M. 6 P.M. 9 P.M. SUNDAY 3 A.M. 8:15 a.m. Elon Musk, the new owner of Twitter, tweets a link to a conspiracy website that baselessly claims that Mr. Pelosi was attacked by a male prostitute. 9 A.M. Comments mentioning “prostitute” and similar terms flood sites, reigniting interest in the false theory. NOON 5:06 p.m. On “The Big Sunday Show,” a Fox News program, hosts raise doubts about the official account. 6 P.M. 9 P.M. MONDAY 3 A.M. 10:04 a.m. Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, repeats the conspiracy theory circulated by Mr. Musk and calls the media the “source of misinformation.” 7:06 p.m. Jesse Watters, the Fox News host, raises doubts about the official account of the attack, saying that glass appears to be broken from inside the house. 9 P.M. TUESDAY, NOV. 1 3 A.M. 6 A.M. 9 A.M. NOON 8:43 p.m. Tucker Carlson, the Fox News host, repeats the conspiracy theory shared by Mr. Musk, joking that a prominent liberal influencer would claim that “Paul Pelosi couldn't be gay, not that it is a bad thing.” 9 P.M. WEDNESDAY 3 A.M. 6 A.M. 9 A.M. NOON 3 P.M. Note: Roughly 9,500 comments that mentioned “Paul Pelosi” were analyzed from 16 websites and a service that provides commenting technology for online platforms. Key terms, such as ”prostitute,” were grouped into the categories shown. While many Republican leaders denounced the violence and some, including former Vice President Mike Pence, expressed sympathy for the Pelosis, none of them publicly condemned the falsehoods their colleagues were elevating or did anything to push back on the false narrative. That left others to fill the void. “Just produce the police body cam, — why is that so hard?” Mr. Carlson demanded on his show on Wednesday night. Addressing those criticizing the conspiracy theorizing, he added: “We’re not the crazy people; you’re the liars. There’s nothing wrong with asking questions, period.” The disinformation surrounding the attack on Mr. Pelosi presented many of the standard elements of alt-right conspiracy theories, which relish a culture of “do your own research,” casting skepticism on official accounts, and tend to focus on lurid sexual activities or issues related to children, often driven by a fear of society becoming immoral. Nina Jankowicz, a disinformation expert, said no amount of evidence — be it police body camera footage or anything else — could get in the way of such falsehoods in the eyes of those who do not want to believe facts. “It doesn’t matter when there are documents or sworn testimony claiming something is, in fact, not the case,” Ms. Jankowicz said. “There will be an elaborate reframing effort. If the footage was released, people would claim it was fabricated. There’s no bottom.” Many of the Republicans who amplified the fiction couched their comments as jokes, effectively pre-empting any criticism by suggesting they might not be serious. Hours after the attack, Donald Trump Jr., the former president’s son, shared online a viral image of a costume that included an oversized pair of men’s briefs and a hammer, remarking “the internet remains undefeated.” A spokesman for Mr. Trump said he “simply posted a joke meme and has always rejected political violence in all forms.” Representative Claudia Tenney, Republican of New York, circulated a photograph on Twitter that showed a group of young, white men holding oversized hammers beside a gay Pride flag, commenting simply: “LOL.” Ms. Tenney did not respond to a request for comment. It is not clear whether the elected officials and media personalities who have trafficked in falsehoods believe the conspiracy theories they are elevating, or simply want to be rewarded by their right-wing base. According to public polling, as many as 70 percent of Republicans still believe that Mr. Trump was the true winner of the 2020 election. Mary Williams Benefield, a Republican running for a seat in Georgia’s statehouse, said she had responded online to a tweet suggesting the attack was staged because “the official narrative is unwilling to present all the facts.” “Maybe their daughter has a film crew shooting a documentary on this too,” wrote the mother of three and former music teacher at a church school, making a reference to newly surfaced footage from a documentary Ms. Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra was filming that showed the speaker in a secure location during the Jan. 6 riot. In an interview, Ms. Benefield brought up a report that the police have debunked, which wrongly asserted that the intruder was dressed only in his underwear. The Fox News affiliate that originally reported the detail issued a correction saying the article had previously “misstated what clothing the suspect was wearing.” That did nothing to change Ms. Benefield’s mind. “There’s a lot of questions that need to be asked before there’s any legitimacy,” she said. According to federal charging documents, Mr. DePape was enthralled by the conspiracy theories that have portrayed Ms. Pelosi as an enemy of the country. His online activities show him ranting about the 2020 election being stolen, seeming to deny the gassing of Jews at Auschwitz and claiming that schoolteachers were grooming children to be transgender. His attorney has said he planned to argue that Mr. DePape was so influenced by disinformation that it should be considered a mitigating circumstance. |
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And who cares what NBC on Nov 4th. it’s the same info I posted except of course right wing sights like the national review NY post what to suggest a cover up? The info below is also from Nov 4th https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ls/8258324001/ Yes pelosi opened the door who said he didn’t. And he more likely was in his underwear he was in bed when attacked 2 a.m., from court records. Pelosi, who was sleeping in a pajama top and boxer shorts, The dispatcher asked for the man’s name and he replied, “My name is David.” When the dispatcher asked who David is, Paul Pelosi said he didn’t know. I’m a friend of theirs,” DePape said . To defuse the situation, Paul Pelosi told the dispatcher that he did not need police, fire, or medical assistance. But Pelosi then asked for Capitol Police because they are usually at the house protecting his wife. The San Francisco police dispatcher, Heather Grives, said he called city police and Pelosi said he understood. At 2:31 a.m. – about two minutes after the 911 call ended – Police Officers Kolby Wilmes and Kyle Cagney arrived at the house. Wilmes rang the doorbell, but DePape told Pelosi not to open it. Pelosi opened the door with his left hand. In the dimly lit foyer, Pelosi nervously but calmly greeted the officers. “Everything’s good,” DePape replied, when the officers asked what was going on. When an officer turned on his flashlight, police could see DePape was holding the hammer with one hand and Pelosi’s right arm with the other. Pelosi had his hand on the top of the hammer. “Drop the hammer!” one officer said. “Um, nope,” DePape allegedly replied What is going on here?” an officer asked. The blow knocked Pelosi unconscious. The two officers rushed into the house and tackled DePape and disarmed him. Capitol Police cameras recorded break-in at Pelosi residence Why do you need to see body cameras? I’ll tell you . because you believe there’s been some conspiracy’s and the police are in on it. What else could it be? Yet the Deep state couldn’t cover up his DUI. But someone’s trying to cover up this? Or it’s it’s a false flag operation.. it’s always the same thing with right wingers lies get more attention then truth DePape is in the United States illegally, a Department of Homeland Security spokesperson confirmed Thursday. He is a Canadian citizen who last entered the U.S. legally on a six-month tourist visa in 2008 and overstayed that visa. I bet if he was brown fox would have been all over it Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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How Republicans Fed a Misinformation Loop About the Pelosi Attack By Annie Karni, Malika Khurana and Stuart A. Thompson Nov. 5, 2022u Paul didn’t you know both sides do it. That’s the mantra of the faithful on the right with a twisted logic with them throwing out 3 examples ( all of whom apologized ) over a 10 years period Against your list of all who spread lies and misinformation. In 1 day All while Yelling see both sides do it actually believing what they are saying is True. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device |
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wayne, do we know for sure pelosi answered the door?
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Multi million dollar security system, police with body cams…….. Glass door shattered outward, his own words to the police on the initial call, “he’s my friend” Where is the 3rd guy that was there…… all of them in their fruit of the looms………. WHERES THE SECURITY & body cam tapes 🤔 If 1 cop laid a finger on Paul Pelosi, CNN, MSNBC and the others would have been running that footage 24/7 |
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