I hope the population in this country can see that trumps tariffs are actually designed to fund “trickle up” economics. The working class will fund the rich’s tax cuts with their extra stealth tax.
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Cult members wont be moved, but hopefully centrist republicans and independents will say enough is enough.

Seems the new plan is to grant what they are calling targeted tariff exemptions. Which is code for taking care of donors. Or industries.
To limit sticker shock .for us consumers…. Or basically Bait and switch.

Sadly many Americans are falling for it. That it’s some Art of the deal by their genius president.

On a sidenote, I thought oil plummeted to under $60 a barrel but I haven’t seen a reduction at the pump at home. It’s like 268 to 280 and on my drive to Hilton head North Carolina South Carolina many places is three dollars a gallon.. which surprise me ! Its always been $.20 cheaper down south

After 4 years of not one post it took less than a month to find this thread and see that it still hasn't changed even after JohnR said no more.

Done with this place.

You are aware this is the grumpy old pharts board, seems like a logical thread to me and I for one am capable of discussing what are some serious national security and economic issues and pop into post in the fishing threads if and when I hit the salt again.

Not everything can be fake news 100% of the time. But that’s the suggestion

Believe in truth

To abandon facts is to abandon freedom. if nothing is true, then no one can criticize power because there is no basis upon which to do so if nothing is true, then all is spectacle the biggest wall pays for the most blinding lights.

Not sure why some people are afraid to read actual facts and current events

I haven’t seen anyone naming names . Just people pointing out the obvious .. not hate no vitriol just a conversation..

Look at the massive power outage in Spain, those are real possibilities for the US, as cyber security found China in all our infrastructure in the last term and managed to get them out. So Trump guts that department, why……oh yeah because they proved the 2020 election was 100% fair. Trump lives to hurt anyone who he felt hurt him.

DOD head is a joke, if you feel secure, glad your comfortable. He spends 50% of his efforts trying to find leakers or people talking about how inept he is, not to concerned about our security.

MORAN: Even some people who voted for you are saying, 'I didn't sign up for this.' So how do you answer those concerns?

TRUMP: Well, they did sign up for it actually

He has a point. They can claim willful ignorance all they like. They have no excuse.
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It’s worse than that, and straight out of the authoritarian playbook.

All over government they’re not just eliminating oversight but trying to erase history so they can replace it with a Trump friendly set of facts, unable to be disproven because their data is all that’s available. I’m somewhat surprised JR hasn’t removed the political forum from the search engine to be honest.

Before the election I said the US would be looking a lot like Russia in 5-10 years. Now I’d say we’re on the fast track to Hungary in 2. No press freedom, lack of liberties, wrecked universities and a disastrous economy.

But as Trump said yesterday, you voted for it.

SNL or reality?

WELKER: When does it become the Trump economy?

TRUMP: It partially is right now. I think the good parts are the Trump economy and the bad parts are the Biden economy
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Kari Lake says OAN's far-right coverage will fuel Voice of America.:faga:

What a great way to repay OAN for its continued propaganda.

Seriously, his economic strategy is such a cl#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&g fluster I’m not sure we can avert a bad recessed even if he changed course today, and the GOP seems content to just let him drive the ship right into the rocks.

What happens next could be a lot, lot worse.

Short term pain might turn into a long term nightmare

Did you guys see that developing african countries who are trying to negotiate having tariffs dropped were told that chances of them being dropped will increase if they signed contracts with Starlink. They aren't even trying to hide the corruption.
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I wonder if a decade from now looking back wishing we weren’t living in the new Russia, those that voted this criminal into power truly regret their past decisions. Project 25 is rolling over America and I’m not sure the American public have a chance to stop it.

What a surprise that the “full and comprehensive” free trade agreement Trump is announcing with much fanfare this morning is not exactly full and comprehensive.

UK provided a polite reality check to Trump's posts about a "full and comprehensive" deal
UK-US deal will set out general terms of agreement: UK official
Will set framework for further negotiations: UK official
Focused on specific sectors, not traditional FTA:UK official

That’s a good sign for 90 deals in 90 days. The first trade deal Trump is celebrating is actually the framework of a deal.

No one knows concepts of a plan or frameworks of a deal like Trump.
It’s like Deja Vu all over again
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