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He also said that the DOJ would not have gotten FISA approval for wiretaps, without the Steele dossier. You conveniently left that part out. Gee, I wonder why? http://wncn.com/2018/02/04/gowdy-say...teele-dossier/ "That speaks volumes coming from Him" Since you claim that Gowdy has credibility when he says that there would still be a Mueller investigation, you must also believe Gowdy is equally credible when he says the FISA warrants would not have been granted without presentation of the salacious and unverified Steele dossier? Or are you cherry-picking? I want Mueller to do a fair thorough and complete investigation, and let the chips fall where they may. I also want Americans to know that a small number of politically-motivated people at the DOJ, abused their authority in an attempt to help Hilary. Thank you for bringing up Gowdy, and for allowing me to fill in the big item you conveniently excluded. I heard a rumor that Gowdy is retiring from Congress to be a special prosecutor investigation which laws were broken by the DOJ in their attempts to help Hilary win. Wouldn't that be something? |
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And has Trump done more legitimate hard work, a whole lot more, other than just the usual lying and cheating, to get where he is? What's your point? |
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I also want Americans to know that a small number of politically-motivated people at the DOJ, abused their authority in an attempt to help Hilary. that statement not based in any Facts Or are you cherry-picking? there would still be a Russian investigation ..... pretty clear DOJ would not have gotten FISA approval for wiretaps, without the Steele dossier. that his opinion.and a Republican talking point ... Guess the Judges were all in on it ....whos cherry picking now |
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Originally Posted by scottw "and the FISA warrant that was applied for required evidence of some pretty serious wrong doing.....what exactly has Carter Page been charged with or arrested for to date?" Quote:
The FBI directly interviewed Page. It did not require a FISA warrant to interview Page. Apparently (unless the FBI is still working to find enough evidence that Page actually became a spy) there is no proof that Page is or was a spy. |
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Ummm, NBC? I posted a link. In the same interview on 'Meet The Press' where Gowdy said that there would have been a Mueller investigation with or without the dossier, he also said there would have been no FISA-approved warrants to spy on the Trump campaign. Go watch the interview. Gowdy made two distinct conclusions regarding the dossier. You focused on the one that you liked, and ignored the one you didn't like. "that statement not based in any Facts " No? Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton on a private jet after telling reporters to get lost. Soon after, Hilary was exonerated. Soon after that, Hilary said on TV that she would consider keeping Lynch on as AG if she won. Interesting timing, no? The deputy attorney general (guy named Ohr?)'s wife works for Fusion, the company paid by the Clintons to compile the dossier. That wasn't disclosed, and the guy didn't recuse himself. The deputy FBI dircetor's wife ran for the senate and took big money from Democrats PACs. That was not disclosed, and he did not recuse himself. The 2 FBI agents involved in the email investigation, could not have been more clear that they wanted Hilary to win. The emails between the two are public. That was not disclosed, and they did not recuse themselves. Is any of that not true? On top of that, you seem to think Trey Gowdy's opinions regarding the dossier are valid. Fine, I will agree with you. In that case, Gowdy made a valid statement when he said there would have been no FISA warrant if not for the dossier. You can't have it both ways, either Gowdy is a trustworthy source or he's not. "that his (Gowdy's) opinion.and a Republican talking point " YOU brought Gowdy up, not me. So I can also say that it's a liberal talking point that even without the dossier, Mueller would still be investigating. Not sure if you are confused, or what...but you were the one who said Gowdy's opinions regarding the dossier, mattered. Not me. "whos cherry picking now" Clearly, you. I admit there would be an investigation of Trump even without the dossier. But I conclude that the dossier had an impact. I admit things that help Trump and that hurt Trump. You can only admit what hurts him, and can't admit anything that makes the left look bad. That is the definition of cherry picking. "Guess the Judges were all in on it " According to Gowdy, the judges were fooled by the unverified dossier, and by a Yahoo news story that was presented as verification of the dossier, when in fact it was just a regurgitation of Steele's dossier. Is it "verification" if Steele repeats the same accusations on a different news outlet? Nope. |
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I've found that the things people accuse others of are the things they are guilty of. Thieves are quick to accuse others of stealing because they would, etc. You probably think John Gotti worked hard also, the smoke about Trump is out there if you look and too late the truth will come out. He was connected in development work in NYC, Atlantic City, why would you think not Russians? |
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I don't equate Trump with John Gotti. Maybe you do. |
The left managed to lose the 2016 electoin (handily) to one of the most un-likeable people on the planet. But they weren't satisfied with that, so they compounded the political disaster by not only losing to him, but allowing him to now present himself as a sympathetic victim.
Who is calling the shots on the left side of the aisle, exactly? Whoever it is, please, keep them there for life. My goodness. |
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The only item in the Nunes memo that the Dems say was fabricated was the point about how the FISA warrant wouldn't have been issued without the Dossier. People in that meeting said that was taken completely out of context. You're just going to have to face up to the fact that once again you were duped, all in the name of protecting mother Russia. |
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Did the FISA application include some reliance on the Steele dossier, which was paid for by the Clinton campaign? "how the FISA warrant wouldn't have been issued without the Dossier" I presume only the judge knows if that's true. "You're just going to have to face up to the fact that once again you were duped, all in the name of protecting mother Russia" I know, I know. Hilary is just the walking embodiment of virtue, and those mean Republicans just won't let her try to serve the world, seeking no gain for herself. I say we strip Mother Theresa of her sainthood, and give it to Hilary. |
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