I try to give everyone a fair shake and was not going to comment BUT....


you fish for stripers and you dont own a tape? are you strictly catch & release?:huh:

Nope! Stretch and distort!:jump:

Surfcasting-Rhode Island is often overlooked; Joe has a good selection of often very hard to get plugs and great service and the same good advice you get from our other sponsors...

Basswipe's comment says it all and OCM's last post proves him to be a troublemaker and/or a clown. Shame. Danno, OCM's arrogance and malignant narcism should neither dissuade you from asking questions on this site, nor should it stop you from purchasing any and all plugs that, for whatever reason, catch your attention. Be forewarned that plugs are designed to catch fishermen first, then hopefully fish. Your BTW indicates to me that you don’t really know much about the Afterhours plug that you bought, but you didn’t let that stop you from buying it.

I choose to patronize smaller local tackle shops because these are the people who are closest to the action in the area I fish, and they will have a better idea if a specific type of plug, be it a brand name or a certain style, is working in the area, so striking up a relationship with a local owner(s) is important. If they don't stock a certain type of plug it may not work in that area like it works in others.

All plugs, expensive or inexpensive, will more than likely work, but time has to be invested in learning how to make said plug move just right and presenting it in an area that fish, for whatever reason, are attracted to. It took me a couple of years for me to learn how to get the first custom (as you put it, a “professional”) plug that I found success with, George Carlezon’s pencil popper, to dance just right, but once I did... And I’ve had great success with the aforementioned $6 plastic swimmer, the mambo minnow – worked for me straight out of the box. (A shout out to PIEMMA - silver/black still rule out back.)

I specifically use the least expensive plug or tin that I can find success with because I lose a large quantity of lures every year - I believe that if you are not losing tackle you're not doing it right, not putting yourself in a risky but productive situation (in my case, bluefish, seals or snapping it off, but for you it may be pilings, rocks or other structure). With all due respect to all of the craftsmen who sponsor and contribute to this site, it makes little/no sense to me to spend high dollars for a beautiful custom lure that, in my hands, would have an extremely limited life expectancy. But that is just me Danno, you may/will be different. Hopefully you won’t lose as much gear as I.

He's a freaking carpenter, for crissakes--of course he owns a tape. :rollem: What he doesn't own is a knack for telling the truth.

At least I would hope he owns one :doh:

Ass clown.

I was just a "cut man" to my cat with the peroxide, wicked slash along his face (yea, he's gay...we're pretty sure). Must have been that stray that my looser neighbor started feeding that was stuck in my other looser neighbor's cellar for the past two weeks. I thought I heard something.

The point being, I'm sure he will heal. Cats are pretty tough, and if Lime hadn't got him yet I don't think this will.

-spence

If we weed thru the BS here there is a lot of great info.

Once you get a few good plugs you gain confidence in you will be all set. I only take 5 to 10 plugs with me and they are Needles, mambos and bombers. I have so much faith in the needle I never use anything else. unless it is live bait, nothing beats live bait

dark, whites, greens

stick with those as starting points

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like everyone said before, another vote for Saltwater Edge and surfcasting RI...........outstanding people and customer service to boot...

And this post is why we dont take you seriously :rotfl:

I'm thinking there may have to be a new award created for Onecastmike at this years TFCTF night!:jester:

OCM is into water sports?:rotflmao:

Please, that fish is 38LB's no more than your other fraudulent fish was 46", 47", or whatever you claimed - OH wait a minute - you even lied about being the one to catch the fish to screw Jimmy out of a whole lot of plugs. Enough with the lies...

joe thats not true... I didn't try to screw anyone..
next year I will throw eels and not just pencils...untill I land another monster...

OMFG I just lost it. #1 post of the YEAR :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao::rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Nice ONE, Vic.......................
And I'll do the math.
21 x 21 x 49/800= 27.01 lbs.

She must've been a racer, still a very nice feesh on a $3.00 plug!!!
I've had a coupla takers on them bombers, nuthin' THAT big ~but they do brang tha fish :cool:.

And it is all about the confidence level and recognizing the right plug for the right conditions.
So far, I'm "fluent" with darters, danny's, AH sr spooks, and El Sluggo.
Loose stinking needles too fast to have landed anything on them!!
Must mean i'm fishing them right, right??? Have yet to fish a HABS, though!
That's prolly, why................

FYI----

:lurk:

That weight chart also bases on Fork Length IIRC

No kidding :rotflmao:

Nebe, OMG!!!!

That is sum funny-arsed sheeet!
The perfect and "fitting" award.............

WATCHILLARIOUS, bro!
:rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao::rotflmao: :rotflmao:

yep, Joe is top notch. he's very forthcoming with info and has even been to known to take repeat customers fishing on occasion. not many places go above and beyond like he will. i learned a ton sitting around shooting the bull with Joe. I took my PB from a spot he reccommended when I was first starting out...

and ummm assdawg, i think vic's fish was a little bigger than 29#s.

Eben that was hilarious hahahaa

Bassdawg claims that a 49" fish weighs 29# than in the other thread he says his seasons best was 43" 33.5#????Most fish that length will way somewhere between 22-28# at the high end

:rotflmao::D:bl::wiggle::laughs::hf1::bl2:

Bart your right Joe came out and showed me around Block Island my first trip out there

:jester::jester::jester:

Another vote for SCRI & SWE.

Awesome thread!!!

riverrat and bart :wave:,

The numbers don't lie, and
I'm sure that Vic knows that as well :huh:.

Short of you doing the math yourself, here is the formula that i used and it is the same one employed by the good folks at OTW for their Striper Cup: girth x girth x length/800 = pounds of striper.

Vic's fish, 21" x 21" x 49" = 21609~~~~21609/800 = 27.01#

BD's fish, 25" x 25" x 43" = 26875~~~~26875/800 = 33.59#

Also, iffin you were to look at gonefishin's chart, then you would find that my numbers are within the normal range of stripers that are 43" overall ~with the average being placed at 32#'s. Not too sure where ya come up with yer numbers riverrat, must be Rhody racers yer thinkin' of???

I know, i know riverrat.........it does seem kinda crazy, but there are some BIGGUNS layin' up in me honey cove. Ya should've been there the night I brought in a monstah way toooo green and she snapped 40# flouro like it was a guitar string. She made my 43"er look like a dink. I mean theys sum real FATTY'S up in there, and it is possible that Vic's feesh was a skinny beetch. Either that, or she could've been fooled by that black mambo before the fattening up stage had happened :wiggle::wiggle:.

The more I think about it the more I think that Vic's numbers must be off. Wouldn't the girth on a 49"er be bigger than 21"??? Doan know, since I cain't say that I've ever landed one that LAHHHHGE!

I can remember when most every 43" fish was 30+, and most 46" fish were 40+----when we had a lot of big bait around :(

I got my numbers from real life experience not some equation that is used to boost C&R advocates ego's. I've weighed fish and used that equation, its always on the heavy side. The only numbers that truely don't like are the ones on the scale.

Just a little more info about me honey hole...........

There is a huge outer promintory, or small island type rock that is flanked by reefs to the north, a channel laced with bowls/pockets/and rips back into the isle, and a series of reefs that end at the mouth of a huge cove, that is filled with lobster pots.

That rock is reachable at an hour before Low, and castable at all times. It protects the outside from this sweet little boulder field that dumps into the rip between the above mentioned reefs, and a second set of reefs that form where the boulders stop and then they also meet on the southern end of the outer reefs and they all meet at the lobster pots that litter the mouth of this large cove.

Been mostly successful with chunks and eels, though a coupla times danny's and spooks have been the ticket for yer 36"-39" fatty's. Gonna pound the place with burgundy headed/blk bucktailed jigs and burgundy/white, and white/white next year. But so far BAIT has been the key to this very feeshnominal spot, and the BIG GURLS just keep getting bigger each year.......................:heybaby: :heybaby:

If he doesnt go to TFCTF night, i am sure we can find a good time to 'bequeef' the trophy to him :smokin:

I agree with riverrat about the formula, not all fish are built the same, some racers can have huge heads & shoulders...and others not, alot of variables to consider. You can't beat real life experiences. Now adding to that, ...quite a FEW years ago I was on Charlie's boat runnin Church's in my local river and we got PLENTY of fish measuring HIGH 40's and NOT reaching 30#s. VERY VERY SAD INDEED. Some of the LONGEST bass I've ever caught and Charlie was calling them "skinny",,,, I didn't understand his comment back then because shore bass were far and few for me, Large Bloofish RULED my haunts back then, if the Bloofish had stripes I got confused -


I don't doubt OCM's fish. You guys may just be fishing the wrong spots.... I got this 42 pound slob on one of Slips plugs. Thanks again Bruce!!! :musc: