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PaulS 04-24-2020 08:08 PM

[QUOTE=Sea Dangles;1191762]
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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1191757)
Don’t take this personally PaulS, but you are the one who insults. When faced with clear facts that make you into the fool you play the insult game. You demonstrated it again when you were given evidence of more lies. That’s fine,I understand your frustration. Get some rest coward.
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I don't take anything you say personally because I have no respect for you and I think you're a vile scummy person who isn't smart enough to debate anything and has to resort to Childish insults.

Please point out where I insult anyone prior to being insulted here? You think what you posted demonstrates dishonesty – I think it just shows what a stupid person you are. Seems to me you are the coward here as you can't even attempt to discuss the topic at hand without resorting to your typical vial scummy insults. As I said, go talk to the doctor - maybe they can prescribe something to help you.
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Jim in CT 04-24-2020 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1191763)
The CDC isn’t researching this Jim, the page is a clinical trial registration for some doctor in Columbia who’s going to pay to likely get 20 people sicker after signing a waiver. It has nothing to do with the US Govt or US based research.

Here’s the FDA’s position

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/pres...products-claim
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The FDA is saying don't drink it. No one said it was safe to drink.

But you are 100% right, it's not the CDC, I was 100% wrong. But there is a trial underway to test chlorine dioxide on 20 patietnts with covid-19. There's also a trial underway (in my other link)to test light (virus-killing light) in treating covid-19.

So if people who do this for a living think it's a question worth answering...why is it stupid for Trump to think it's a question worth asking?

I'm not very smart, and not great at comprehension, so please be specific.

Jim in CT 04-24-2020 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1191762)
I don't take anything you say personally because I have no respect for you and I think you're a vile scummy person who isn't smart enough to debate anything and has to resort to Childish insults.

Please point out where I insult anyone prior to being insulted here? You think what you posted demonstrates dishonesty – I think it just shows what a stupid person you are. Seems to me you are the coward here as you can't even attempt to discuss the topic at hand without resorting to your typical vial scummy insults. As I said, go talk to the doctor - maybe they can prescribe something to help you.
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For God's sake, both of you, knock it off.

Sea Dangles 04-24-2020 08:26 PM

[QUOTE=PaulS;1191765]
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1191762)
I don't take anything you say personally because I have no respect for you and I think you're a vile scummy person who isn't smart enough to debate anything and has to resort to Childish insults.

Please point out where I insult anyone prior to being insulted here? You think what you posted demonstrates dishonesty – I think it just shows what a stupid person you are. Seems to me you are the coward here as you can't even attempt to discuss the topic at hand without resorting to your typical vial scummy insults. As I said, go talk to the doctor - maybe they can prescribe something to help you.
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Nothing personal, but I just could easily point out examples. But you just showed your character when presented with evidence that you ignore or dismiss. I feel bad for the only person in S-B.com I have witnessed crying for help from the moderators on multiple occasions because he is afraid to stand alone. Get some rest Lionheart.
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PaulS 04-24-2020 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1191765)

Nothing personal, but I just could easily point out examples. But you just showed your character when presented with evidence that you ignore or dismiss. I feel bad for the only person in S-B.com I have witnessed crying for help from the moderators on multiple occasions because he is afraid to stand alone. Get some rest Lionheart.
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Show me some evidence as what you posted shows what an unintelligent person you are. I'm not crying for help as I think you're an imbecile. So why would I be afraid of someone as stupid as you? I just don't know why Kevin allows you to basically spit in his face when he asked you to do something you ignore. It shows what a lack of respect you have for anybody.
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Pete F. 04-24-2020 09:16 PM

The utter asininity of Trump*s briefings this week are testament to the blindingly obvious reality that there is no proverbial bottom floor when it comes the abject stupidity and delusion that flows from the Presidential podium like a toxic fog over the country. Trump* is a fool.

My heart goes out to this woman.
Dr. Birx defends the President: When he gets new information, he likes to talk that through out loud and really have that dialogue and so that’s what dialogue he was having. I think he just saw the information at the time immediately.. and he was still digesting that information.

Unless you are claiming he was trolling the libs or reporters, in which case the prank required Trump to maintain a completely deadpan demeanor, and to get Birx’s cooperation, and to let the untruth go uncorrected for about 18 hours before finally revealing the gag.

Fit that into your narrative.................or his for that matter.

Oh, I forgot this can’t be correct because Trump is a stable genius, so he can’t possibly become confused. He is a god.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXtrgih0PsI

Sea Dangles 04-24-2020 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1191770)
Show me some evidence as what you posted shows what an unintelligent person you are. I'm not crying for help as I think you're an imbecile. So why would I be afraid of someone as stupid as you? I just don't know why Kevin allows you to basically spit in his face when he asked you to do something you ignore. It shows what a lack of respect you have for anybody.
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Just a reminder that you can hit the report post button or simply dial 911 in the future.😷
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Pete F. 04-24-2020 09:52 PM

Isn’t it interesting that the very same people who say you should praise Trump* because “he says what he means” are now busy arguing he didn't mean what he said?

scottw 04-25-2020 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1191775)
Isn’t it interesting that the very same people who say you should praise Trump* because “he says what he means” are now busy arguing he didn't mean what he said?

name one...

scottw 04-25-2020 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1191767)
The FDA is saying don't drink it. No one said it was safe to drink.

But you are 100% right, it's not the CDC, I was 100% wrong. But there is a trial underway to test chlorine dioxide on 20 patietnts with covid-19. There's also a trial underway (in my other link)to test light (virus-killing light) in treating covid-19.

So if people who do this for a living think it's a question worth answering...why is it stupid for Trump to think it's a question worth asking?

I'm not very smart, and not great at comprehension, so please be specific.

they only see and hear what fits their narrative....

Sea Dangles 04-25-2020 06:43 AM

It turns out Christina Cuomo has a similar approach to what the president had inquired about.
Good news, she beat covid!
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wdmso 04-25-2020 11:18 AM

http://www.bbc.com/future/article/20...-with-uv-light. Good read
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Got Stripers 04-25-2020 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1191781)
It turns out Christina Cuomo has a similar approach to what the president had inquired about.
Good news, she beat covid!
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Too bad you didn’t research what she did, it will now be painful getting that foot out of your mouth. A 1/4 to 1/2 cup of bleach in an 80 gallon bath is so far removed from the nonsense Trump asked about, it’s so far diluted it’s harmless, but feel free to inject yourself with some Lysol, maybe it will finally clean up your act:cheers2:

scottw 04-26-2020 06:53 AM

breaking news!....trump said "put your elbow in your ear"...media perplexed....leftists shaken to their core....how many will die or suffer brain damage as a result???

Got Stripers 04-26-2020 07:22 AM

Trust me all I do is laugh at how stupid “the best president of our lifetime” can be on a national stage and then of course the classic Trump walk back oh no it was sarcasm and I wasn’t serious. I also find it somewhere between comical and sad that you guys keep believing he is doing a fine job. You probably were all really disappointed to learn finally there is no Easter bunny.:jump:

Sea Dangles 04-26-2020 08:08 AM

You will probably be disappointed to hear that he will certainly be your next President.
Don’t be scared little bunny.
🐰
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Sea Dangles 04-26-2020 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191800)
Too bad you didn’t research what she did, it will now be painful getting that foot out of your mouth. A 1/4 to 1/2 cup of bleach in an 80 gallon bath is so far removed from the nonsense Trump asked about, it’s so far diluted it’s harmless, but feel free to inject yourself with some Lysol, maybe it will finally clean up your act:cheers2:

Do you know why I phrased it as a similar approach?
Asking for a friend.
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Jim in CT 04-26-2020 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191808)
Trust me all I do is laugh at how stupid “the best president of our lifetime” can be on a national stage and then of course the classic Trump walk back oh no it was sarcasm and I wasn’t serious. I also find it somewhere between comical and sad that you guys keep believing he is doing a fine job. You probably were all really disappointed to learn finally there is no Easter bunny.:jump:

you’re the easter bunny clinger, because you’re the one denying irrefutable facts when it makes you feel better. before this virus which was no one’s fault, the economy was soaring by every conceivable measure, the jihadists were weakened. there was peace and prosperity. I wouldn’t want him dating my mom any more than you’d want him dating yours. but he did some great things. and despite being a jerk, there’s very little evidence he turned our allies against us.

you deny the obvious facts and cling to fantasy instead. you’re the one who still
slices up carrots and puts them on your stoop the night before easter. we are responding to what has actually happened. you are responding to what you wish took place .
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spence 04-26-2020 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1191810)
Do you know why I phrased it as a similar approach?
Asking for a friend.
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Good thing that bike you’re on has a freewheel
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Sea Dangles 04-26-2020 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1191818)
Good thing that bike you’re on has a freewheel
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That’s not true Jeff, I paid for it.
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Got Stripers 04-26-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1191813)
you’re the easter bunny clinger, because you’re the one denying irrefutable facts when it makes you feel better. before this virus which was no one’s fault, the economy was soaring by every conceivable measure, the jihadists were weakened. there was peace and prosperity. I wouldn’t want him dating my mom any more than you’d want him dating yours. but he did some great things. and despite being a jerk, there’s very little evidence he turned our allies against us.

you deny the obvious facts and cling to fantasy instead. you’re the one who still
slices up carrots and puts them on your stoop the night before easter. we are responding to what has actually happened. you are responding to what you wish took place .
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OMG Jim going back to his economy card, that’s not predictable much haha. First Trump inherited a really strong and expanding economy and yes he took moves to not kill it and guess who’s backs paid for that then and are paying for it big time now. His rich buddies and corporations made out like bandits and are probably more easily and fruitfully getting bailed out now. Your version of great things doesn’t match mine and since I’ve yet to see a civil debate on this forum before it goes to childish insults and stupid arguments, I will leave it at that.

Jim in CT 04-26-2020 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191828)
OMG Jim going back to his economy card, that’s not predictable much haha. First Trump inherited a really strong and expanding economy and yes he took moves to not kill it and guess who’s backs paid for that then and are paying for it big time now. His rich buddies and corporations made out like bandits and are probably more easily and fruitfully getting bailed out now. Your version of great things doesn’t match mine and since I’ve yet to see a civil debate on this forum before it goes to childish insults and stupid arguments, I will leave it at that.

so when you say he hasn’t done
anything, it’s invalid for
me to point out his accomplishments. makes sense.

i’m sorry you can’t handle it, but he hit a home run with the economy until we chose to shut it down. i think thearket is still
higher than when he took office (is that right?), so the market likes what the feds are doing in response,,god knows how we pay for it.

what’s predictable, is you me striating that he didn’t do any good. you can’t be honest. he’s a world class jerk who gets an A- on the economy.
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Got Stripers 04-26-2020 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1191839)
so when you say he hasn’t done
anything, it’s invalid for
me to point out his accomplishments. makes sense.

i’m sorry you can’t handle it, but he hit a home run with the economy until we chose to shut it down. i think thearket is still
higher than when he took office (is that right?), so the market likes what the feds are doing in response,,god knows how we pay for it.

what’s predictable, is you me striating that he didn’t do any good. you can’t be honest. he’s a world class jerk who gets an A- on the economy.
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Didn’t say he did nothing, but much of what he has done profits the upper crust, big corporations and total disregard for our allies and our environment.

Jim in CT 04-26-2020 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191841)
Didn’t say he did nothing, but much of what he has done profits the upper crust, big corporations and total disregard for our allies and our environment.

obama
also helped the economy, and the wealthy benefitted the most.

earth to you...when the economy rises, the wealthy will
always benefit more, because they have more invested. there is no way to stop that. and no reason to want to, because the wealthy pay taxes and create jobs and donate huge $$ to charity. CT and NY are finding out currently, what happens when you drive away the wealthy. it’s a disaster.
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Jim in CT 04-26-2020 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191841)
Didn’t say he did nothing, but much of what he has done profits the upper crust, big corporations and total disregard for our allies and our environment.

please point out an economic boom in the last 100 years that didn’t help the wealthy more than the little guy.

when the wealthy get wealthier, that doesn’t mean they took anything from us. god, the liberal whining about the wealthy....if you want to be wealthy, do what they did, it’s a free country.
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Got Stripers 04-26-2020 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1191843)
please point out an economic boom in the last 100 years that didn’t help the wealthy more than the little guy.

when the wealthy get wealthier, that doesn’t mean they took anything from us. god, the liberal whining about the wealthy....if you want to be wealthy, do what they did, it’s a free country.
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Well the counter question would be is the system wrong, when the rich continue to get richer and those in the middle or the pour bastards changing the sheets in their hotels, cutting their grass and watching their kids barely make a living wage?

detbuch 04-26-2020 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1191843)
please point out an economic boom in the last 100 years that didn’t help the wealthy more than the little guy.

when the wealthy get wealthier, that doesn’t mean they took anything from us. god, the liberal whining about the wealthy....if you want to be wealthy, do what they did, it’s a free country.
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Hey Jim, you just don't get how unfairly good things are distributed in this journey we call life. I mean, how fair is it that exercise and a good diet benefits those who work on being healthy more than those who just assume that all will be well until it isn't.

Sea Dangles 04-26-2020 05:06 PM

Anything is possible in America if you are motivated and smart. You can take education and toss it aside. The American Dream is alive and well. Those folks cutting your grass may someday own a landscaping company. The “pour” sheet changers may get into a union and change your bedpan.
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Jim in CT 04-26-2020 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191847)
Well the counter question would be is the system wrong, when the rich continue to get richer and those in the middle or the pour bastards changing the sheets in their hotels, cutting their grass and watching their kids barely make a living wage?

it’s not the system, it’s just math. what would you do? make it illegal to keep working or investing after one attains a certain net worth? you’d support that? think, man. Nobody is better off if the wealthy didn’t exist.

if you say we need to improve our safety net for those at the bottom, i agree. but there’s no way to keep the rich from getting richer in a booming economy. Basic arithmetic guarantees that will happen. for sure its not trumps fault. there’s no conceivable way to stop it, and no conceivable reason to try.
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Got Stripers 04-26-2020 05:16 PM

Oh yeah that’s exactly where I was going Jim, line up all the rich and shoot them, this is why I don’t even attempt a debate on this forum, it goes to stupid too fast, carry on.

Jim in CT 04-26-2020 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191851)
Oh yeah that’s exactly where I was going Jim, line up all the rich and shoot them, this is why I don’t even attempt a debate on this forum, it goes to stupid too fast, carry on.

that’s not where you were going? you asked if something was wrong with the system. if that’s not where you were going, kindly tell us where you were going? what would
you do to fix it?

let’s all listen to bernie, the diehard socialist who truly walks the walk, who owns three homes and flies private jets.
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detbuch 04-26-2020 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191847)
Well the counter question would be is the system wrong, when the rich continue to get richer and those in the middle or the pour bastards changing the sheets in their hotels, cutting their grass and watching their kids barely make a living wage?

Well, actually, not all the rich get richer. Many go bankrupt or lose wealth. Maybe the rich who don't keep up with the other rich should complain that the system is not fair. Many are satisfied with "barely" making a living wage. It keeps them living and able to have sex, watch TV, enjoy meals, get a good nights sleep . . . and, if they catch a spark of an idea, do better.

I understand that there is this ideal that everybody should have an abundance of all that is life giving and joy making. But if the reality is that that is not realistic, how does one calculate on how much and in what way all the goods will be distributed.

What "system" makes it possible for everybody in it to be satisfied?There are some, like the Amish. And there are religious communities who find equal satisfaction in the promises of their faith. I may be wrong, but I doubt those kind of systems would satisfy everyone. Maybe there is not one "ideal" system. Maybe we should be free to join or create one that satisfies us. Or maybe the closest to the ideal would be one in which everyone can find their own personal happiness which would depend on many different things, not just the differences in paychecks.

Got Stripers 04-26-2020 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1191853)
Well, actually, not all the rich get richer. Many go bankrupt or lose wealth. Maybe the rich who don't keep up with the other rich should complain that the system is not fair. Many are satisfied with "barely" making a living wage. It keeps them living and able to have sex, watch TV, enjoy meals, get a good nights sleep . . . and, if they catch a spark of an idea, do better.

I understand that there is this ideal that everybody should have an abundance of all that is life giving and joy making. But if the reality is that that is not realistic, how does one calculate on how much and in what way all the goods will be distributed.

What "system" makes it possible for everybody in it to be satisfied?There are some, like the Amish. And there are religious communities who find equal satisfaction in the promises of their faith. I may be wrong, but I doubt those kind of systems would satisfy everyone. Maybe there is not one "ideal" system. Maybe we should be free to join or create one that satisfies us. Or maybe the closest to the ideal would be one in which everyone can find their own personal happiness which would depend on many different things, not just the differences in paychecks.

The only ones happy in the Amish society are the males who rape their sisters, their daughters and control the minds of those living in fear, better find a better role model.

Jim in CT 04-26-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191854)
The only ones happy in the Amish society are the males who rape their sisters, their daughters and control the minds of those living in fear, better find a better role model.

and is it Trumps fault?

detbuch 04-26-2020 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191854)
The only ones happy in the Amish society are the males who rape their sisters, their daughters and control the minds of those living in fear, better find a better role model.

Yeah, but that's not supposed to be part of the "system." Don't think you can find or create a "system" which won't have miscreants. On the other hand, Huxley's Brave New World comes close. Don't think you'd like that system though.

Jim in CT 04-26-2020 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1191856)
Yeah, but that's not supposed to be part of the "system." Don't think you can find or create a "system" which won't have miscreants. On the other hand, Huxley's Brave New World comes close. Don't think you'd like that system though.

And if the Amish rapists were democrats running for presidemt, no one would care.

scottw 04-26-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191854)
The only ones happy in the Amish society are the males who rape their sisters, their daughters and control the minds of those living in fear, better find a better role model.

that's a nice thing to say...

Got Stripers 04-26-2020 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1191859)
that's a nice thing to say...

Been well documented, which is why I found that an odd “happy” low income family not needing their part of the pie.

detbuch 04-26-2020 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Got Stripers (Post 1191862)
Been well documented, which is why I found that an odd “happy” low income family not needing their part of the pie.

You're usually a lot more lucid than this. This is wdmso territory in lacking clarity. Are you saying that I claimed that the Amish were a happy low income family not needing their part of the pie. Did I mention any families not needing their part of the pie? Did I specify any part of any pie? Are you referring to my "Many are satisfied with "barely" making a living wage. It keeps them living and able to have sex, watch TV, enjoy meals, get a good nights sleep . . . and, if they catch a spark of an idea, do better"? Are you referring to the rich who don't keep up with the richer rich?

Or something or someone entirely different?

Got Stripers 04-26-2020 07:20 PM

[QUOTE=detbuch;1191864]You're usually a lot more lucid than this. This is wdmso territory in lacking clarity. Are you saying that I claimed that the Amish were a happy low income family not needing their part of the pie. Did I mention any families not needing their part of the pie? Did I specify any part of any pie? Are you referring to my "Many are satisfied with "barely" making a living wage. It keeps them living and able to have sex, watch TV, enjoy meals, get a good nights sleep . . . and, if they catch a spark of an idea, do better"? Are you referring to the rich who don't keep up with the richer rich?

Or something or someone entirely different?

[/What "system" makes it possible for everybody in it to be satisfied?There are some, like the Amish.

My response was to the rubbish you posted, where everyone in an Amish society is happy. Nothing could be farther from the truth, the men rule, they rape their sisters, their wives and probably anything with a hole that fits their “manhood”.


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