couldn’t answer? odd for a tough guy.
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He is very persistent in his bs ….
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Of course in your world, systemic racism doesn’t exist.

A well educated black guy brought up in a white neighborhood told you so.

Or was it Donald Trump?
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still dodging.

the most economically successful ethnicity in our country is asians, not whites. there’s racism, not systemic racism. unless you count colleges denying admissions to asians.
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Racism may be no more transparent than in an institution with the least representative racial progress like the Senate. There have only been 11 Black senators in roughly 232 years. Clearly, the Senate is the exact space we need people with the courage to say the blunt, honest truth about our nation’s past and present. Only then can we actualize a future where systemic racism does not exist.
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still avoiding my question. what does it say that you are paralyzed in the face of a question that simple? you’re frozen with terror at any truth that doesn’t serve your agenda.

if blacks do so poorly in places like the senate, and liberals set public
policy for such a large percentage of blacks, what does that say about liberalism?

you walked right into that one.
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Just how in your little narrow mind does that make sense?
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this is pretty racist...

whose mind is narrow?

i have made it clear that i think both sides are right in different big issues

Please Pete, share with us the big issues in which you agree 100% with conservatives?

minds can’t get narrower than yours. your entire existence is boiled down to liberal=good, conservative=bad, you are incapable of deviating from
that. And when occasionally confronted with facts that dispute that puny mindset, you ignore, deflect to Trump, or launch insults. You have not, and can not, ever conceded that conservatives have any really good ideas on any topic. your mind literally won’t allow it. But Trump!!!!!!!

You have taken the art of humiliating yourself and getting bitch slapped publicly, to evangelical heights. You’re a beaten down, beyond angry, narrow minded bore. And a coward to boot. and you’re too stupid to not keep coming back for
more. You make it so easy to slap
you around, you take the fun out of it. you’re the sad kid at school
who had to eat bugs to get anyone to pay attention to him.
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As usual, liberals bad
Because that’s the cause of all that’s wrong in the little girls world
Except for gay marriage
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I didn’t say liberals are bad ( once again, hearing those voices in your head as opposed to reacting to what’s said in reality), i was only talking about you.

gay marriage, death penalty, health insurance for all, covering ore existing conditions ( one of the best ideas of the last 15 years), gun control.

for the second time, please list some big issues in which you agree with conservatives?

either that question is going too fast for you, or you know exactly what it means but can’t bring yourself to answer. there simply isn’t a third option. your refusal to answer means you’re either an idiot or a coward.
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What you wrote was
“if blacks do so poorly in places like the senate, and liberals set public
policy for such a large percentage of blacks, what does that say about liberalism?“

And are they also to blame for the composition of the Republican Party, inside and outside of government?
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answer my questions, i’ll start answering yours. fair enough?

we passed the equal rights act ( no thanks to democrats). i have good news for you, the war against institutional racism is over, and the good guys won. Find another soap box to preach from.

If the country is white supremacist at its core, why are Asians the most economically successful ethnicity? and if democrats are opposed to racism, why are elite colleges denying admission to well qualified asian applicants? why do the liberal elites want to make sure there aren’t too many asians in campus?
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Jim missed this More than half of police killings in the US are unreported in government data, study finds

An estimated 55% of deaths from police violence from 1980 to 2018 were misclassified or unreported in official vital statistics reports, according to the peer-reviewed study by a group of more than 90 collaborators in The Lancet, one of the world's oldest and most renowned medical journals.

During that period, non-Hispanic Black Americans were estimated to be 3.5 times more likely to die from police violence than non-Hispanic white Americans, with nearly 60% of these deaths misclassified – meaning they are not attributed to police violence – in official government data, researchers found.

I doubt this will changes Jim’s Mind it’s evidence based and was researched…

But he is all onboard with the AG Garland is targeting white Americans only concerned about their child’s education to protect his SCUM bag daughter and husband selling CRT to schools to corrupt Americans youth

If the country is white supremacist at its core,

Jim you seem to focused on what you’ve been told to think that anyone but the right thinks If the country is white supremacist at its core, it’s what the right sells to people like you , who then believe every world .. but if you took the time to do any objective research it’s fringe elements on both sides who weaponize these topics they yell loud and they get the coverage . And duped Americans see it in a meme or one of their friends said it was happening. And Is all the evidence they need to think it’s True
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there are over 700,000 police officers. the data, and common sense, tells us there’s no conspiracy to eradicate blacks. if you double the 2019 figure spence posted (13) to 26, that’s still nothing when you consider three quarters of a million cops, and how many dangerous situations they’re in each years.

i’ll ask you the same question that
has all the other lefties here wetting their pants.

What’s more destructive to blacks - white cops, or black-on-black violence? yet which gets all the media attention?

and if you consider the percentage of the population blacks make up
in cities ( where most violence takes place), they aren’t killed in disproportionate numbers to whites.

maybe if liberals weren’t so opposed to school choice, more blacks wouldn’t be stuck in these horrible cities? and who runs these horrible cities anyway? is conservatism dominating the landscape in these cities like chicago?
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Some Asians would dissent

Asian Americans have the widest internal income disparity of any racial group in America: The median Indian American household in America earns $119,000 a year, while the average Burmese family earns $44,400. Twenty-five percent of Burmese immigrants live below the poverty level. For Filipinos, the rate is a mere 7 percent.

Our politics are also diverse. A summer 2020 survey showed that 65 percent of Indian Americans planned to vote for Joe Biden in the 2020 election, 28 percent for Donald Trump and 6 percent said they didn’t know. For Vietnamese, the numbers were 36 percent for Biden, 48 percent for Trump and 16 percent didn’t know. A full 23 percent of Chinese Americans didn’t know.

We, the 20 million, are either poor or we are assimilation machines. Those are the two outcomes.

Jim it's very simple when you have Government or authority Killing Americans with impunity with clear disparities based on race there is a problem . but the bigger problem is its accepted by many

And as for you blacks killing Blacks argument what's worse stop the false equivalencies because in the real world the vast numbers of killing and assaults are committed by you guessed it people of their own race whites on whites black on black hispanic on hispanic and asian on asian..

Maybe the article will open your vision on the Topic.. Because I or others on this site did not write it..


Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/...brutality.html

cops kill with impunity? tell
that crap to darren wilson, whose actions were justified in two separate investigations and yet he had to leave the force.

what do you expect to happen when we ask 700,000 police officers to respond to millions and
millions of dangerous situations every year? tragically, mistakes will be made, and some of them will be bad apples who go as far as to commit murder. how do you stop that?

you’re denying that the left is accusing police of being racist assassins, and of routinely engaging in police brutality?
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and you, like the rest of your liberal ilk here, couldn’t just answer the question. what such a simple question has you all frozen like a deer in headlights, doesn’t that say something about how flimsy your beliefs are?

the left is deflecting on this, not me. desperate to avoid people
seeing that their polices have a direct link to gang violence in cities, they blame cops instead. kiss the cop vote good bye.

the police are the one urban institution that actually works, and the left vilifies them, which always leads to dead cops. the left doesn’t care.
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this is some incredible stupidity....

Does Hartford count?

Why do “school choice” advocates never advocate eliminating school district boundaries/funding schools by local property tax and allowing poor, Black students to attend white, wealthy schools in neighboring municipalities? They don’t really want choice, just privatization.
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Those of you who insisted the Quinnipiac poll was an outlier (Biden job approval 38%) have a stronger case. New CBS poll (50% approval) and Ipsos (48% approval) suggest Biden either was never at 38% or has recovered lost ground.
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And they probably all poll different people sooooo…..
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Same reason east Germany built a wall and didn’t let anybody leave
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Please let me know how.. I can’t wait
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Yes Jim I am denying your fantasy the left is doing all those thing you are suggesting. It’s a Lie no different than all Tump supporters are all into white supremacy .. it’s a good sound byte but not reality but please keep your head in the sand about police brutality or the militarization of police hasn’t contributed to these issues

Poisoning Our Police: How the Militarization Mindset Threatens Constitutional Rights and Public Safety

The result of this militarization—where local police take on the appearance, armament, and behavior of soldiers at war—is that the public is both less safe and less free.

And your unwillingness to see it as a their behavior as problematic is why it happens . And your few bad apple argument is a cop out no pun intended .

I don’t see you using the a few bad apples argument on Black on Black Crime? Funny how tha


impunity.

exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.

Seeing you don’t understand what it means in the context of the topic

Here is another.

Qualified immunity is a defense that law enforcement and other government officials can raise in response to lawsuits seeking monetary damages for alleged civil rights violations. ... Critics argue this high bar effectively shields law enforcement from accountability

So please stop looking for questions that have been answered over and over because you don’t like the answers…
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Yes Jim I am denying your fantasy the left is doing all those thing you are suggesting. It’s a Lie no different than all Tump supporters are all into white supremacy .. it’s a good sound byte but not reality but please keep your head in the sand about police brutality or the militarization of police hasn’t contributed to these issues

Poisoning Our Police: How the Militarization Mindset Threatens Constitutional Rights and Public Safety

The result of this militarization—where local police take on the appearance, armament, and behavior of soldiers at war—is that the public is both less safe and less free.

And your unwillingness to see it as a their behavior as problematic is why it happens . And your few bad apple argument is a cop out no pun intended .

I don’t see you using the a few bad apples argument on Black on Black Crime? Funny how that works


impunity.

exemption from punishment or freedom from the injurious consequences of an action.

Seeing you don’t understand what it means in the context of the topic

Here is another.

Qualified immunity is a defense that law enforcement and other government officials can raise in response to lawsuits seeking monetary damages for alleged civil rights violations. ... Critics argue this high bar effectively shields law enforcement from accountability

So please stop looking for questions that have been answered over and over because you don’t like the answers…
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wayne, one last time. which kills waaay more black victims, white cops or black on black crime.
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It's an irrelevant question.

Not when Jim gets his needle stuck and Wayne asking Scott for anything other than his one line snarky standard is why this board is just an amusement at times.

only to a huge intellectual
coward.
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Fixed

oh yeah, which is why you ran away and hid under your bed when i asked, you’re a pure intellectual for sure, totally objective and neutral.

still haven’t answered. that’s what an intellectual
does?
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Jim, you ask pretty banal questions.

I take it you didn’t read the story of the link I provided …. It’s clearly answers your question

Here it is again Stop using ‘black-on-black’ crime to deflect away from police brutality

https://www.cleveland.com/news/2020/...brutality.html


PS I am not Black nor do I chose to speak for the black community about what issues impact them in a positive or negative way ..

Nor do I try to base my arguments on such a simplistic comparison of who’s the better killer

Not just “a few bad apples”: U.S. police kill civilians at much higher rates than other countries
Police violence is a systemic problem in the U.S., not simply incidental, and it happens on a scale far greater than other wealthy nations.

It’s seem you can’t discuss 2 different issues at the same time.. oh well
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i can discuss two issues, we can talk about actual police brutality. but you refuse to talk about black on black crime, even though it claims a thousand times more black lives than white cops.

you’re the one who can’t discuss two things. not me.
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Jim when you use your black on black crime line to distract from talking about police brutality.

It’s like making sugar cookies then throwing in a handful of chocolate chips .. and saying I didn’t change anything it’s still a cookie

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Jim it's very simple when you have Government or authority Killing Americans with impunity with clear disparities based on race there is a problem . but the bigger problem is its accepted by many
this is some incredible stupidity....

you characterization is incredibly stupid, we don't have "Government or authority" killing Americans with impunity.....and we don't have Government or authority" killing Americans, particularly Americans of color with impunity....and there is no acceptance of this false notion....

honest question wayne, your hate and vitriol toward law enforcement/police is very apparent and irrational...did you have a bad experience at some point, where does this anger come from?

in each of these cases....I ask myself, if I'd done what the "victim" did, would I have had the same result?...in the case of Floyd...absolutely...if I was hopped up on drugs driving around, did something that required the police to be called and the resisted arrest to the extent that they had to pin me to the ground to control and cuff me and I hit my head or in Floyds case,
The police caused George Floyd’s death, but drugs and heart disease played a role, the medical examiner says.
....you can argue the cop was wrong in what he did and he's now paying the price for making a very poor decision apparently but Floyd also paid the price for what were apparently decades of bad decisions including all of the bad decisions HE made THAT day...have you ever tried to restrain someone that was 6'7" and crazy on drugs?

we can go case by case....there is a reason that in most of these cases the police are not found guilty and it's not due to systemic racism and not the result cops driving around targeting people of color with impunity

the Wendy's shooting in Atlanta, was another....if I'd done what that guy did...yup, I'd expect to get shot

if I do something that causes the police to show up and restrain me and I'm uncooperative or give them reason to think I have a weapon or I'm belligerent and resist arrest, yup...I expect bad things will happen to be....

unfortunately we have a lot of people running around making bad decisions and thinking that there won't be consequences

you can go ahead and take that to mean I accept Government or authority Killing Americans with impunity with clear disparities based on race:hihi:

Wow talk about stupidity Scott or should I say holding the line, you really think he needed a knee on his neck for that long to subdue him? You are the mirror image of that cops mentality with that post. You’d have fit right in where the Celtic legend Bill Russell couldn’t buy a house.

A little history. Back when America was "great," this man couldn't buy a house in my home town of Wakefield, Massachusetts. He bought one in Reading, next door, where one night a band of Americans broke in, stole his valuables, smashed his trophies, and #^&#^&#^&#^& inside the covers of his and his wife's bed. Yes, #^&#^&#^&#^& on his bed. And every game, he stood stoically for the anthem, looking around at thousands of white faces as they boasted of the "land of the free and the home of the brave."
I could live in Wakefield. But Bill Russell, the greatest player in the history of basketball, the man in this picture wearing his Presidential Medal of Freedom, couldn't.
Don't let anyone tell you there's no such thing as white privilege. Don't let any government official, especially a president, tell you or anyone else when it is appropriate to stand, sit, or kneel in protest. And most of all, don't fall for this MAGA bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.

you don't read very well....

"you can argue the cop was wrong in what he did and he's now paying the price for making a very poor decision"