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detbuch 07-07-2020 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1196352)
When you are done with Rules for Radcals or NY Times articles on why we need to cancel Washington and Jefferson, I challenge you to go back through history, take the US out, and wonder where things would be without us.

No one here would likely be in a better position than they are today. Half of us, if ever even born, would still be in Europe, consumed by the violent warring of those countries.

It is childish to put today's lens on 100 or 200 years ago.

That's an excellent point and way of looking at the supposed horror we used to be.

But the Dems and anti-Trumpists are concerned more about getting rid of Trump than any rational examination of American history. And the growing leftist, socialist, Marxist, element of the Democrat Party is about replacing historically political America with one embracing a totally opposite ideology. And the big lie is one of its most powerful means to power.

Trump's 4th of July speech was a unifying praise of our past including the importance of all our truly American heroes, including many black ones, and no mention of or praise for Confederate heroes. Yet he was criticized for delivering a racist, divisive speech that somehow gave a nod to white supremacy and the Confederacy.

Just another in the long train of misrepresenting or lying about what Trump says. It's too bad that he has to keep making his artless tweets and comments, giving the left (and Pete) their constant opportunities to negatively frame his words.

And it seems to be working. The problem, as I see it, is making the election about Trump instead of the real issue, the ideological divide.

Pete F. 07-07-2020 09:30 AM

That speech certainly brought the suburban white college educated women into the fold.

“Both of my daughters are teachers. They are often overworked, always underpaid, and spend their own money for supplies. Despite all this, Trump claims they are teaching their students to hate America. You will not find two more dedicated women. I hate him.”
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detbuch 07-07-2020 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196368)
That speech certainly brought the suburban white college educated women into the fold.

“Both of my daughters are teachers. They are often overworked, always underpaid, and spend their own money for supplies. Despite all this, Trump claims they are teaching their students to hate America. You will not find two more dedicated women. I hate him.”
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Did he specifically name her daughters? Or was he referring to what is widely known about the Marxist trend in the non-stem educational departments.

Pete F. 07-07-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1196372)
Did he specifically name her daughters? Or was he referring to what is widely known about the Marxist trend in the non-stem educational departments.

At his campaign event he said words and words matter.
A broad brush paints all it hits, kinda deplorable isn’t it.
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JohnR 07-07-2020 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196353)
Don’t worry after this clown, we will likely see the end of American exceptionalism in our lifetimes.
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On that we agree, because there is NOTHING on the horizon that saves us from going through considerable pain, or a divorce.

Jim in CT 07-07-2020 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196376)
At his campaign event he said words and words matter.
A broad brush paints all it hits, kinda deplorable isn’t it.
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you dodged his question.

obviously there’s a massive left wing bias in academia. that’s not debatable.

i used to teach. i have many friends who teach. i have two brothers who teach. you will
never find a group of people
anywhere, who are so certain that no one works harder then they do, no one makes less money than they do, no one is as under appreciated as they are, blah blah blah. they are quite the group. and they are indoctrinating, without question.
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Jim in CT 07-07-2020 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1196372)
Did he specifically name her daughters? Or was he referring to what is widely known about the Marxist trend in the non-stem educational departments.

the stem courses are not immune. you’d be surprised at the ability of academia to put a left wing slant even on math.
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Pete F. 07-07-2020 12:18 PM

I hope you’re home schooling your kids to keep them safe from indoctrination
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Sea Dangles 07-07-2020 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1196387)
you dodged his question.

obviously there’s a massive left wing bias in academia. that’s not debatable.

i used to teach. i have many friends who teach. i have two brothers who teach. you will
never find a group of people
anywhere, who are so certain that no one works harder then they do, no one makes less money than they do, no one is as under appreciated as they are, blah blah blah. they are quite the group. and they are indoctrinating, without question.
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Atlantic magazine had an article outlining the disparity at the college level. The bias and resulting influences have yielded predictable results. If you have a different mindset, they have no problem ostracizing you.

detbuch 07-07-2020 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196376)
At his campaign event he said words and words matter.
A broad brush paints all it hits, kinda deplorable isn’t it.

You're smart enough to know that your generalization about a generalization is twice removed from reality. In other words, to put it politely, your comment is not true. Or, to be perfectly blunt, you're lying.

Broad brush statements are by their intrinsic nature, NOT MEANT TO INCLUDE every instance or every person, or every detail. If every person is meant, then the statement would have to specifically say EVERYBODY, or ALL, not merely refer to a broad segment, and thus it would not be a "broad brush" but particular and definitive.

But I understand your need to claim that Trump means all teachers are anti-American indoctrinators. It's what you must do, regardless of truth or accuracy, to get rid of Trump. The old ends justifying the means.

You use a similar technique of misstating Trump calling MS13 gang members animals as claiming that he said all illegal immigrants were animals. In this instance you go from the particular (MS13) equaling or defining the Broad (All illegal immigrants), thus inverting the broad brush meaning every detail type lie into the the specific detail defines the entire, broad category kind of lie.

It's all part of your broad repertoire of painting Trump as evil incarnate. And, yes, that is deplorable.

Pete F. 07-07-2020 08:11 PM

Oh, so if I say “our children are taught in school to hate their own country and to believe that the men and women who built it weren't heroes but villains” it’s referring to only some teachers?
Baloney it’s another sick rationalization of Tweety’s divisive speech.
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spence 07-07-2020 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196447)
Oh, so if I say “our children are taught in school to hate their own country and to believe that the men and women who built it weren't heroes but villains” it’s referring to only some teachers?
Baloney it’s another sick rationalization of Tweety’s divisive speech.
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Nuclear culture war Pete. Trump will destroy America if he thinks it will get him a few votes.
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Sea Dangles 07-07-2020 08:52 PM

Drama time

detbuch 07-07-2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196447)
Oh, so if I say “our children are taught in school to hate their own country and to believe that the men and women who built it weren't heroes but villains” it’s referring to only some teachers?
Baloney it’s another sick rationalization of Tweety’s divisive speech.
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Actually, yes. And not even to teachers. But to Progressive curricula being taught in most public schools and colleges. Obviously, he doesn't mean ALL schools. There are colleges and universities, such as Hillsdale, which are not Progressive. And there are public schools in rural areas and "conservative" states that teach traditional American history.

scottw 07-08-2020 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete F. (Post 1196447)
our children are taught in school to hate their own country and to believe that the men and women who built it weren't heroes but villains” it’s referring to only some teachers?
Baloney it’s another sick rationalization of Tweety’s divisive speech.
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this is absolutely true....and we're seeing the fruits of their labor...because you aren't smart to understand what is going on doesn't make it baloney

PaulS 07-29-2020 07:49 AM

The masked white man recorded smashing the windows of a Minneapolis AutoZone during an early George Floyd protest is a suspected white supremacist who was trying to incite racial tension, cops reportedly believe.

A Minneapolis Police arson detective says the 32-year-old man’s actions, which were captured on video, help set off a chain reaction that led to the store burning and days of looting and rioting, according to a search warrant affidavit obtained by the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

“This was the first fire that set off a string of fires and looting throughout the precinct and the rest of the city,” the investigator, Erika Christensen, reportedly wrote in the affidavit filed in court this week

Before “Umbrella Man” started shattering the store’s glass, “the protests had been relatively peaceful,” Christensen said.

“The actions of this person created an atmosphere of hostility and tension,” she said. “This individual’s sole aim was to incite violence.”

Sea Dangles 07-29-2020 10:04 AM

One bad hombre’, atypical as it is.

scottw 07-29-2020 12:16 PM

this is great...the idiots who have been telling us that these are peaceful protests and that there hasn't been destruction, looting and injury now want to blame all of the destruction. looting and injury that didn't happen on a dude with an umbrella who is a white supremacist who broke a window somewhere....

hard to keep up with the lunatics....

wdmso 07-29-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1197776)
this is great...the idiots who have been telling us that these are peaceful protests and that there hasn't been destruction, looting and injury now want to blame all of the destruction. looting and injury that didn't happen on a dude with an umbrella who is a white supremacist who broke a window somewhere....

hard to keep up with the lunatics....

Still no antifa ringleader arrest.

Portland being portrayed as an attack on American (bill barr) yet covid 19 is running rampant across the country affecting many more Americans lives than 1 court house in Portland...
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Sea Dangles 07-29-2020 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1197791)
Still no antifa ringleader arrest.


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Obviously there is no such thing as Antifa 🤡
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