its up to $475B now!

This guy has one trick in his play book.....

talk about beating a dead horse

The payment method the White House announced Monday would consist of:

--$405 billion from limiting the itemized deductions for charitable contributions and other deductions that can be taken by individuals making over $200,000 a year and families making over $250,000;
which will hurt charities
--$41 billion from closing loopholes for oil and gas companies;
which will be passed on to the consumer

--$18 billion from requiring fund managers to pay higher taxes on certain income;
which will be passed on to the consumer

--$3 billion from changing the tax treatment of corporate jets.
drop in the bucket

Doubeling that # will be more like it before it's over.

Rule of thumb , the CBO will consistently under estimate program costs.

friggin mess, no one action or person can fix it.

Move to Greece!

exactly, thats why we dont need to sink another half trillion into it. The $$$ is an Obama election contribution. The polls say he has to do something so he is.

I say dont raise taxes, dont overburden businesses with more admin BS and lets ride this out.

I agree. as long I have a job.

Ya it's like, what this country needs is a good recession, present
company excluded.

And a bunch of sarcastic internet fisherman

Personally I don't think the right thing to do is sit idly by. That doesn't get people to start hiring. Nor does it get people to start spending. Or saving.

People that can hire are on on the sidelines not sure what will happen with the uncertainty of the near future.

People that have to hire are often doing so in as minimal fashion as possible.

John's right, I know of no one that is hiring unless the role is already paid for be some internal need and the 'exact' match including freckles for what is needed is found. Every open position has 10 times the normal applicants so there is plenty to choose from. Unfortunately you have to wade through them or staffing is not satisfied you've done you job. Oh and you give the person 10 pct LESS than what they are making now at a maximum salary.

I have personal experience on both sides of the equation in the last 3 mos, and I don't see it getting any better for at least another 2 years with the 2012 election and our current state of affairs, it ain't happening.

I'm sure they will start hiring now that we know the"" plan"" is calling for 400 billion + in new taxes and a bigger government. I really think Obama may be on to something...brilliant:rotf2:

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