I believe I posted 6 fish. Those were taken by my nephews at different times during the season. Personally, I didn't kill a bass last year.

You are also missing the point. I didn't say we shouldn't take bass. I said 2, 28" is wrong. I've done this for 45 years or so and I have never kept 2 fish in a day and I never kill anything under 34". Have I caught and killed my share of big fish? Yep.

The point of the whole dissertation is that the Striper should be a game fish. EVERYWHERE!!!

That would put an end to the wholesale slaughter taking place in NC, SC, VA etc.

if you hooked up with bass, you killed bass...check the numbers on mortality of released fish....


you seem very passionate, maybe release those fish and post pictures of you and your nephews releasing the fish and set a good example for you nephews...and others :)...it would be more in line with the rhetoric

My point about 2 fish was completely missed by evrryone except Mike

I dont have an issue with the one a.week or so guy keeping 2 fish gling home eating some give some to a freind but day after day you see guys taking home 2 fish there is no.way a guy is eating 10 fish a week just because he cqn keep 2 a day he is still being greedy
Charter boats.even worse 3 guys go out on a charter and there 10 fish when the boat.comes.back in because there were 5 guys on the boat total that there is greedy we as humans are greedy and destroy everything
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If there's any rhetoric here it's that responsibility as a rec is to keep what you can eat...rather than keeping fish simply because you want to impress somebody else or perhaps your self. And that the commercial harvest isn't sustainable under most circumstances.

For another fisherman to play the "all fishing is killing" card a on a fishing website is patently hypocritical...it shows you're just trying to provoke somebody with a hell of a lot more fishing wisdom than you in an otherwise serious thread...perhaps it's just placing a spotlight on your lack of maturity.

As someone who appears to regard themselves as a "conservative" I would have wagered you'd place more value in the tried and true experience of those before them.

-spence

I think he just forgot that we aren't in the Political Forum. :buds:

I didn't realize we had so many members of Stripers Forever on this board :yak5:

I think it is more that you have some guys that know what is happening and don't want to see it go down that way... again.

what's the matter...bored Spence?


I'm hardly an "all fishing is killing type"...I love grilled bass....to fish all season long and claim you didn't personally kill any stripers hardly exhibits fishing wisdom, posting pictures of big dead stripers on one thread and then whining on and on on another thread about the decline of the stripers is....... well.....and then blaming it on the little kids??? and your take on this definitely demonstrates your own lack of maturity....love you too:love:

BINGO! We have Bingo!

Blame it on the little kids? I see you can't help it...

-spence

I think you are completely missing my point...I even said i was OK for 1 at 36....

my point is that nothing is ever going to change until everybody stops pointing fingers and starts to work together....only way anything will be done.

as seen here...people have been biatching about this issue for years and nothing ever changes.

I don't know where you got the "Go Kill your 2 at 28" from...because that certainly isn't me

Found this interesting, it seems " legitimately "
out of 3997 bass permits,
70% claimed zero pounds reported.
96% claimed less than 2000 pounds reported.
154 permits took 56% of the fish.

After paying the help and other expenses, not a lot of people making some real coin here.

and try to be consistent....you can't lecture the kids that we're on the verge or another moratorium as you are stacking cows in the cooler....well maybe you can:)

The rate this thread topic is going it will be about 15 pages in another week.
The majority recognize that stocks are decreasing to a potential collapse of sb. What cracks me up is the less then handful of people that attend the public hearings to voice their opinions.
The only time a large group are willing to get together if there is a large raffle or food, go figure.
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70% claimed zero pounds.
Wonder how many pounds went through the back door of a restaurant though.

Hence the "legitimately "
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I've read this sentiment from more than a few in this thread and just wanted to point out that it is totally unrealistic to hope you are going to come to some sort of consensus on here, and then make headway as a group. The only way to bring about change is to find a group or groups that are already like minded and involved, or to simply move ahead on your own (maybe with a few like minded friends) and call and write your State Rep, Congressman, or Senator, and lobby as best you can for your beliefs. Trying to get a consensus here is just waste of time.

LOL So I'll ask the question again. What are WE GONNA DO ABOUT IT?I've just about gotten to zero as far as fish I keep.We up here in Maine set a very high bench mark in the 60's. Gamefish an no spear fishing for striped bass. No in shore netting and stripers aren't allowed as bycatch.Yet our fishing has been trashed time n again with the destructive practices south of us.we can't go much farther up here but the ball is in your court.I can preach,moan n groan all i want but I can't do much more.Same with most fishermen up here as our catch numbers are just plain pittiful. I fish as hard if not harder than most on this site.I've gotten so good with releasing stripers that I've had 25+lb fish follow me in the shallows for a half hr after releasing them like a damn puppy dog.Yet so many of the hard cores that i associate with still do what I did in the 80's.We need to stop or loose it. those that think it's still roses have a very rude awakening.As long as there's a bounty-food or money- on stripers we have a moritorium sooner than later.Sad part is that many of our friends that make plugs or own takle shops will be out of business next time around due to OUR collective ignorance.Like I said i still caught stripers all through the decline in the 70's an 80's. i'm a pretty good striper fisherman. I just learned to put them back an when things slowed I about stopped keeping any.A load of us did.

Derek, you know this, and I'll say it for those who don't: there are guys on the Canal who will go out on the morning tide, keep 2 big bass, take them home, and return on the afternoon tide and take 2 more.

They must have HUUUUUUUGE freezers! :rotf2:

I don't need NOAA to tell me that.

Nation On Arterial Agenda idiots

When I was a kid it felt great when I brought my neighbors a big fish or a couple fillets.One day I realized I had to stop as I was hurting the fish. it's part of the learning curve. We ALL go through it. Catch n release used to mean you tied a bad not,had cheap gear or screwed up somehow LOL.None of us should critisize those who haven't learned what we have the hard way. Those of us that learned the hard way just need to keep teaching how to make things get better.Those that haven't learned need to understand that we are serious about how bad it got but it can be fixed.We're not trying to take anything away from you just get you to help us save what we have so you can teach YOUR grandkids how fun it is to chase Striped Bass an how great it is to meet friends while doing it.

Mike and what bothers me most is they sit in a parking lot and bitch when they dont catch a fish
I still fish at night till sunrise i dlnt fish tournys. I may put a.few inthe cooler a year but getting out is my stress releif
Unfortunately there will come.a time when there will be very few fish the way things are going and the good part about that is there will be nobody on my rock when i go out to get away
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Id fare to.wager some never get cleaned as people look to give em away cause they already had there hero ride in the morning
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Who are we suposed to believe? NOAA or the ASMFC and the DMF?
Click here and look up bass.
Atlantic States Marine Fisheries Commission


Acording to the ASMFC the stock is well above the Target biomass.
Acording to the head of the DMF, paul didoti the stock is above its target biomass and the DMF was even proposing increasing the comercial quota.
Acording to the Head of the DMF AND the ASMFC the biomass of commercial size fish is at an all time high, there was a bumper crop of young produced in 2010 that "should", pending survival, start yearly migrations. They admit there are not allot of "schoolies" around because there was a low survival rate for that year class. That is why there are no massive blitzes of schoolies tearing up and down the coast. Remember all those schoolies from a few years ago? Well there all commercial size now and there hanging just out of reach of the seals. Somewhat a nuisance to the Tuna fishermen often hard to get away from.
So just because surf fishing sucks and there not stacked up in all the usual spots doesn't mean they are on the verge of another collapse.
Im not jumping on the stop commercial fishing bandwagen based on NOAA's stock assessment. Or poor surf reports.
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Yea ,,,and everything was Honky Dory the last time the species collapsed,, when his predecessor Phil Coates was running the show . Instead of owning that they screwed up, they blamed pollution for the sudden collapse .. I was there ,, I use to go to those BS meetings ,, They like to say Bio Mass .. They say it so much you get dizzy .. Hi Mike ;-)

Hi Ed.
Plastic-boat fish don't count
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No derek there will always be some of old timers on those rocks. might take us a little longer to get there but trust me we will be there. we were there through the last moratorium an we'll be there through the next one god willing.Shame is a lot of the -nimrods,googans,fly by nighters an week end worriors won't be.They won't even realize what they lost an missed.

LOL Also who gives a da-- what the political agancies have to say. I'll take you to some of my secret spots that used to have loads of fish. MT now.if you can't take the word of those of us that have been chasing stripers for some 40 to 60 yrs over these idiot agencies run by people that have never walked a boulder filled beach or been in a blitz of fish over 30 lb you deserve what you make of things to come.been chasing stripers for almost 50 yrs. the only scientist I've ever seen at a fishing spot were those that Bob Pond,Al anderson,Bob Boulard,myself an some of the other old timers took there.Go ahead be stupid like we were just don't complain after things get shut down. we can make changes ourselves that will make a difference.Our choice.

Many are too young to remember when there were hardly any bass in the late 70's and early 80's. I remember those one fish years.

Do we have to have it in writing to make and effect a change? Many are in denial about the bass being in trouble. Many see the lack of bass in their waters, but will still say, "there is no problem".
What kind of thinking is this?