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Jim in CT 12-10-2017 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1133266)
There is some hypocrisy on my side and I don’t like it. There is mountains of hypocrisy on your side, on this issue at least.


you truly are the boy in the bubble .. And your use of Whataboutism in all your counter arguments is with out equal

Well, judging by looking at where democrats curently wield any meaningful influence in this country there’s a lot of people in my bubble.
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wdmso 12-11-2017 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133313)
Well, judging by looking at where democrats curently wield any meaningful influence in this country there’s a lot of people in my bubble.
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Republicans have been out of the loop for the past 8 years you finally get 1 elected a real peach . and you beat your chest like Tarzan. at year 1 and they still haven't done anything for America

please dont cite unemployment numbers because now you believe them they were going that way already

please dont say the stockmarket because it didn't count for the last POTUS and only helping the rich

Those richest Americans own far greater amounts of stock. As of 2013, the top 10 percent of Americans owned an average of $969,000 in stocks. The next 40 percent owned $132,000 on average. For the bottom half of families, it was just under $54,000.

52 percent of U.S. adults owned stock in 2016. Since Gallup started measuring this in 1998, that's only the second time ownership has been this low. These figures include ownership of an individual stock, a stock mutual fund or a self-directed 401(k) or IRA.

detbuch 12-11-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1133334)
Republicans have been out of the loop for the past 8 years you finally get 1 elected a real peach . and you beat your chest like Tarzan. at year 1 and they still haven't done anything for America

This is like your version of a "comment" in the comment section of a Breitbart article.

wdmso 12-11-2017 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1133338)
This is like your version of a "comment" in the comment section of a Breitbart article.

its funny to use what i said as An example of a vitriolic comment

was it the Tarzan reference or calling Trump a peach

detbuch 12-11-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1133348)
its funny to use what i said as An example of a vitriolic comment

was it the Tarzan reference or calling Trump a peach

Yeah, you're using negative hyperbole not based on facts.

Got Stripers 12-11-2017 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133225)
Seems like the Republicans had no problem electing a vile, foul-mouthed person who bragged about assaulting women to the most important position in the world . Now they're going to elect a perverted pedophile to the Senate. But somehow it's about the Democrats LOL
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I think Trump will probably look to his favorite TV host Howard Stern to be his running mate next time around, as he truly knows the real Donald. Loved the white house press briefing today, Sarah couldn't wait to beat feet, as there were too many questions about many of the women coming out to reiterate the fact they were sexually abused by Trump. Trump has changed the lyrics to the old Sonny Curtis favorite and the tune now goes "I AM the law and the law wins".

JohnR 12-11-2017 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1133149)
Have you ever been to Alabama?

Exhibit A in why people not on the East / West coasts give a Big Middle Finger to the talking heads.

Sea Dangles 12-12-2017 10:55 PM

I am pleasantly surprised to see Moore lose.
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wdmso 12-13-2017 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1133387)
I am pleasantly surprised to see Moore lose.
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i agree 100%


Seems others not so much

The ONLY way the democrats win anything is by fraud and cheating at
the voting booth! I guarantee that if Moore asks for recount, we will
find it. A lot of people out there know what is going on. DEMAND A RECOUNT!

PaulS 12-13-2017 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1133387)
I am pleasantly surprised to see Moore lose.
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Short term it hurts the Repubs. as they loose the seat for 2 years. A Moore win would have hurt the Rep. for years.

Jim in CT 12-13-2017 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133390)
Short term it hurts the Repubs. as they loose the seat for 2 years. A Moore win would have hurt the Rep. for years.

A thoughtful way of looking at it. I swear the gop can’t get out of their own way sometimes. They had Tons of momentum, then they lose a seat in Alabama.
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Got Stripers 12-13-2017 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133393)
A thoughtful way of looking at it. I swear the gop can’t get out of their own way sometimes. They had Tons of momentum, then they lose a seat in Alabama.
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Well Trump isn't Bill Belichick, probably the worse thing for Moore was getting Trump's endorsement and as if the women GOP voters didn't need a push; Trump gives them a good one by going after Gillibrand. Thirty plus swing in those counties Trump won by the largest margin tells me this was more of a Trump loss than Moore or the GOP loosing.

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2017 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133393)
A thoughtful way of looking at it. I swear the gop can’t get out of their own way sometimes. They had Tons of momentum, then they lose a seat in Alabama.
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The HCIC needed to grow up when he got elected. he didn't, and now people are starting to grow tired of it.

JohnR 12-13-2017 03:21 PM

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

With things getting more crazy on top of more crazy, we need better people to run. In environments like this, sane people won't.

The Dad Fisherman 12-13-2017 03:26 PM

Next election will probably be Kanye West running against Ted Nugent

RIROCKHOUND 12-13-2017 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1133405)
Next election will probably be Kanye West running against Ted Nugent

Can you smell what the Rock is cooking up for 2020?
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JohnR 12-14-2017 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles (Post 1133387)
I am pleasantly surprised to see Moore lose.
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:kewl: Agree ; )

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman (Post 1133405)
Next election will probably be Kanye West running against Ted Nugent

NOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!

I want someone Smart, Tactful, and informed in the World!

Give me Condaleeza Rice - smart, smart, tactful, and she doesn't want the job!!!

(Though the left would vilify her)

spence 12-14-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1133353)
Exhibit A in why people not on the East / West coasts give a Big Middle Finger to the talking heads.

I don't get your exhibit.

PaulS 12-14-2017 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1133430)
:kewl: Agree ; )



NOOOOOHHHHHHH!!!!!!

I want someone Smart, Tactful, and informed in the World!

Give me Condaleeza Rice - smart, smart, tactful, and she doesn't want the job!!!

(Though the left would vilify her)

I doubt that there would be politicians on the left calling her a guerilla.

detbuch 12-14-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133437)
I doubt that there would be politicians on the left calling her a guerilla.

No doubt politicians on the left would not be mean to her, or would not call her some sort of suck-up to big money or traitor to the black community or various not so nice right wingishness.

scottw 12-15-2017 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
Exhibit A in why people not on the East / West coasts give a Big Middle Finger to the talking heads.


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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1133433)
I don't get your exhibit.


I think it's amusing that the same people that voted for, supported, defended people like the Clintons, Kennedies, and many other notable vermin who were elected and reelected to positions in Washington are now aghast and dismayed that the backward state or Alabama NEARLY...sent someone of questionable character and deed to Washington....good grief...yes the "middle of the country" has watched "the coasts" do this for decades and their dirtbags actually WON

wdmso 12-15-2017 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1133455)
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Originally Posted by JohnR View Post
Exhibit A in why people not on the East / West coasts give a Big Middle Finger to the talking heads.





I think it's amusing that the same people that voted for, supported, defended people like the Clintons, Kennedies, and many other notable vermin who were elected and reelected to positions in Washington are now aghast and dismayed that the backward state or Alabama NEARLY...sent someone of questionable character and deed to Washington....good grief...yes the "middle of the country" has watched "the coasts" do this for decades and their dirtbags actually WON

love the whataboutism again .. Clintons won the south( and got a BJ) and Ted Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of a crash causing personal injury..

Moore or Trump have accepted no responsibility for their action .. :kewl:

scottw 12-15-2017 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1133456)
love the whataboutism again .. Clintons won the south( and got a BJ) and Ted Kennedy pleaded guilty to a charge of leaving the scene of a crash causing personal injury..

Moore or Trump have accepted no responsibility for their action .. :kewl:

Moore and probably the party paid the price politically for whatever he may have done...Trump may yet....neither the Clintons nor Kennedy nor a long list of other democrats paid a political price, in fact, they've been vigorously defended...re-elected and lionized...just like the Alabamans that lined up behind Moore and overlooked his negatives in order to gain politically....the democrats who supported their own democrat dirt bags have no moral high ground when it comes to who the other party may or may not send to Washington, they are no better than those crazy Alabamans...though they love to think they are


we may be making progress though....we now know, thanks to one of the most liberal papers in the country that one of the most liberal states in the country boasts the most racist city in the country....I guess the left is experiencing a sort of moral renaissance thanks to Trump....this should be a positive going forward


but we do have Schumer whining about "legislation being rammed through" now....this from a guy who would gleefully ram his own legislation through if he were running the show....wait...is that "whataboutism'?

JohnR 12-15-2017 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spence (Post 1133433)
I don't get your exhibit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spence (Post 1133149)
Have you ever been to Alabama?

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133437)
I doubt that there would be politicians on the left calling her a guerilla.

No, they would call her all kinds of things and she that would get everyone killed

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Originally Posted by detbuch (Post 1133441)
No doubt politicians on the left would not be mean to her, or would not call her some sort of suck-up to big money or traitor to the black community or various not so nice right wingishness.

Some would

Jim in CT 12-15-2017 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1133456)
love the whataboutism again .. wl:

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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scottw 12-15-2017 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133464)
So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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pretty sure the left is currently leading the league...:jester:

Jim in CT 12-15-2017 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by wdmso (Post 1133456)
love the whataboutism again .. wl:

So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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JohnR 12-15-2017 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133466)
So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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Yes

PaulS 12-15-2017 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133466)
So conservatives are supposed to just silently accept the amazing hypocrisy shown by the left on the issue of treatment of women?
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Pretty sure he is talking about how you have to constantly bring up 20 year old incidents to try to make a point. Maybe people should bring up how Anita Hill was treated by the right.

The left has forced all the politicians on its "side" to resign. The right has not. The right elected a man to the most important position in the world who has bragged about assaulting women and walking in on naked people in their dressing room. 650K Alabamians just voted to elect a pedophile to be their next senator. :cheers:

Never mind discussing all the things in the Trump budget that impacts woman in a negative way (aid to children, CHIP, etc) given they are carekeepers more than men.

PaulS 12-15-2017 11:10 AM

See any patterns here?

Rates are the number of reported forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

1. New Jersey - 11.7

2. New York - 14.6

3. Virginia - 17.7

4. Vermont - 19.3

5. North Carolina - 20.3

6. Hawaii - 20.5

7. California - 20.6

8. Maryland - 21

9. Wisconsin - 21.3

10. Georgia - 21.4

11. West Virginia - 22.7

12. Massachusetts - 24.7

13. Missouri - 25.1

14. Louisiana - 25.2

15. Indiana - 25.5

16. Connecticut - 25.6

17. Pennsylvania - 26.1

18. Delaware - 26.5

19. Wyoming - 26.7

20. Alabama - 26.9

21. Florida - 27.2

22. Rhode Island - 27.4

23. Mississippi - 27.5

24. Illinois - 27.7

25. Maine - 28

26. Iowa - 28.3

27. Kentucky - 29

28. Oregon - 29.2

29. Texas - 29.6

30. Idaho - 30

31. Minnesota - 30.5

32. Tennessee - 31.5

33. Ohio - 31.7

34. Washington - 31.8

35. Utah - 33

36. Nevada - 33.7

37. New Hampshire - 34

38. Arizona - 34.7

39. South Carolina - 35.5

40. Kansas - 36.5

41. District of Columbia - 37.3

42. Montana - 37.7

43. Nebraska - 38.3

44. North Dakota 38.9

45. Colorado - 40.7

46. Oklahoma - 41.6

47. Arkansas - 42.3

48. New Mexico - 45.9

49. Michigan - 46.4

50. South Dakota - 70.2

51. Alaska - 79.7

PaulS 12-15-2017 11:29 AM

Here is another good one showing violence against women.

Want to guess before you open the link whether they generally vote right or left?

http://www.revelist.com/us-news/10-w...-violence/4897

And another good read (more indepth than just violence) Amazing how many studies you can find on what states are better for women. They all seem to show the same type of trends - anyone want to guess?

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-and-w...r-women/10728/

Off to the gym now.

spence 12-15-2017 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnR (Post 1133462)
I don't get your exhibit.

Still don't. I've spent plenty of time there. Down south in general...have a pretty good read on things.

detbuch 12-15-2017 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133475)
See any patterns here?

Rates are the number of reported forcible rapes per 100,000 people.

1. New Jersey - 11.7

2. New York - 14.6

3. Virginia - 17.7

4. Vermont - 19.3

5. North Carolina - 20.3

6. Hawaii - 20.5

7. California - 20.6

8. Maryland - 21

9. Wisconsin - 21.3

10. Georgia - 21.4

11. West Virginia - 22.7

12. Massachusetts - 24.7

13. Missouri - 25.1

14. Louisiana - 25.2

15. Indiana - 25.5

16. Connecticut - 25.6

17. Pennsylvania - 26.1

18. Delaware - 26.5

19. Wyoming - 26.7

20. Alabama - 26.9

21. Florida - 27.2

22. Rhode Island - 27.4

23. Mississippi - 27.5

24. Illinois - 27.7

25. Maine - 28

26. Iowa - 28.3

27. Kentucky - 29

28. Oregon - 29.2

29. Texas - 29.6

30. Idaho - 30

31. Minnesota - 30.5

32. Tennessee - 31.5

33. Ohio - 31.7

34. Washington - 31.8

35. Utah - 33

36. Nevada - 33.7

37. New Hampshire - 34

38. Arizona - 34.7

39. South Carolina - 35.5

40. Kansas - 36.5

41. District of Columbia - 37.3

42. Montana - 37.7

43. Nebraska - 38.3

44. North Dakota 38.9

45. Colorado - 40.7

46. Oklahoma - 41.6

47. Arkansas - 42.3

48. New Mexico - 45.9

49. Michigan - 46.4

50. South Dakota - 70.2

51. Alaska - 79.7

Not enough info to make a meaningful pattern showing the connection between Republican political philosophy vs. Democrat political philosophy in regard to forcible rapes. Actually, no information in those numbers in that regard.

Also, no breakdown on race of perpetrators.

Much too sketchy to mean a whole lot.

So Alaska had 560 rapes committed by whom? And California had 7774 rapes committed by whom? For whom did the perpetrators vote. And what would that have to do with politics and political philosophy.

detbuch 12-15-2017 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133478)
Here is another good one showing violence against women.

Want to guess before you open the link whether they generally vote right or left?

http://www.revelist.com/us-news/10-w...-violence/4897

No info on how the perpetrators voted. Did any of them vote Democrat? And what would that have that to do with either Party?

And another good read (more indepth than just violence) Amazing how many studies you can find on what states are better for women. They all seem to show the same type of trends - anyone want to guess?

https://wallethub.com/edu/best-and-w...r-women/10728/

Do the men in those states have the same trends? Is it really a gender issue?

Off to the gym now.

Have fun.

Jim in CT 12-15-2017 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133474)
Pretty sure he is talking about how you have to constantly bring up 20 year old incidents to try to make a point. Maybe people should bring up how Anita Hill was treated by the right.

The left has forced all the politicians on its "side" to resign. The right has not. The right elected a man to the most important position in the world who has bragged about assaulting women and walking in on naked people in their dressing room. 650K Alabamians just voted to elect a pedophile to be their next senator. :cheers:

Never mind discussing all the things in the Trump budget that impacts woman in a negative way (aid to children, CHIP, etc) given they are carekeepers more than men.

They are not 20 year old incidents. Up until the election last year, bill was considered a hero of feminism. So was Hilary, who slut shamed her husbands victims. And ted Kennedy was revered in the senate until the moment he died. So the willingness of libs to ignore perversion and mistreatment of women was alive and well, right up until the first nanosecond that the clintons became useless. Then you al started acting as if chivalry is a pillar of liberalism. I assure you, it is not.
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scottw 12-15-2017 01:58 PM

WUT?!?!%$?

December 15, 2017 8:48 AM

Kansas Dem Andrea Ramsey, accused of sexual harassment, will drop out of US House race

PaulS 12-15-2017 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT (Post 1133490)
They are not 20 year old incidents.Huh, when did Clinton rape brodrick? Up until the election last year, bill was considered a hero of feminism. So was Hilary, who slut shamed her husbands victims. Don't forget how the Rep. treated Anita HillProb. bc the conserv. lied about her and him so many times that she didn't believe anything that came out. And ted Kennedy was revered in the senate until the moment he died.That was trueSo the willingness of libs to ignore perversion and mistreatment of women was alive and well, right up until the first nanosecond that the clintons became useless. Then you al started acting as if chivalry is a pillar of liberalism. I assure you, it is not.
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And the cons. just elected a pervert to the most important position in the world when they had many different option and 650K Alabamians voted for a perverted pedophile who was so bad malls banned him. You use 2 examples and I've shown you which states treat woman worse - most are run by conserv. and have voted cons. for years and years. They are responsible for the laws and policies which seems to hurt women more than the states which are run and voted left. Which sample is larger and thus more credible?

scottw 12-15-2017 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulS (Post 1133495)
And the cons. ......

you seem desperate

spence 12-15-2017 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw (Post 1133497)
you seem desperate

He's just pointing out the obvious.

PaulS 12-15-2017 02:38 PM

He is so snarky I usually just ignore him.


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