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ProfessorM 02-21-2007 03:57 PM

ah I love this thread. You are right. Good one.

ProfessorM 02-21-2007 04:01 PM

Man I got to post this again.:kewl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgNcajMmMYY
It just blows me away no matter how many times i listen to his stuff. I just tried to get my daughter, 6yersold, to listen to him and she said he looks weird. I said so what listen to that it is heaven. She left to listen to Hanna Montana.:hs:

LeCounts1099 02-21-2007 04:41 PM

No speakers set up on my computer, Professor... 'else I would love to listen...

Who cares what a Guitarist looks like?-- I'd ask her... (Though Frank Z. was indeed a "looker!"). Who's uglier than Geddy Lee?-- yet he's the best bassist in modern "rock"...

If she wants a good- looking AND great guitarist-- again, that's Randy! Talent aside... I only wish I looked as good as he! :pop:

Bernzy 02-21-2007 05:11 PM

Mick Abrahams - Jethro Tull (Early)

Martin Barre - Jethro Tull (Later)

Jon Butcher - Hendrix like from Boston

John Butler - Aussie phenom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VAkOhXIsI0

Leo Kottke - no one better with a 12 string

Albert Lee - Heads, Hands and Feet

Rory Gallagher

Allan Holdsworth - Maybe the best of them all

Bernzy

LeCounts1099 02-21-2007 05:22 PM

Thanks, Bernzy! Love your stuff!

I think Holdsworth was like Steve Vai & Satriani... great skills but bad songs, & lacked soul...

If you like the Tull guys... can I figure you love Steve Hackett from old Genesis days? :faga:
(Talk about under-rated! "Lamb Lies Down" alone!)

Bernzy 02-21-2007 05:32 PM

Steve Hackett, Yes!!!

And speaking of Yes, how about Steve Howe?

Bernzy

LeCounts1099 02-21-2007 05:39 PM

Already praised Steve H.! "Heart of the Sunrise" right up there with "Stairway to Heaven!" "Perpetual Change" & "Yours is No Disgrace" too! :bgi:

Was I the only "idiot" who thought Steve H. & Carl Palmer & Asia were great too? "Sole Survivor" & "Wildest Dreams?" :grins:

EricW 02-21-2007 05:54 PM

Don't laugh.....
 
But has anyone seen this side of Jose Feliciano?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HzSAzUAAI0

I kind of agree with comment of the the person who posted it. Never heard him like this on the radio. I think it is pretty good. I always kind of liked his redition of light my fire.

Cool thread.
Eric

Bernzy 02-21-2007 06:24 PM

Albert Lee
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOFpQd7aJ9U

This one is great!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPwxige9XNs

Bernzy

Bernzy 02-21-2007 06:31 PM

Eric Johnson :kewl:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Sm-14F7cI

Bernzy

sok 02-21-2007 07:47 PM

Had to read it twice just to let it all sink in.
(The bastards in work are actually making me work. Putting a serious dent in my paid surfing time.They will be punished.)

Ronnie Van Zant?
Singer,vocalist,songwriter.
No comparison to R.R.
And my question (Lecounts99) is have you ever seen an all acoustic show in a club by Zakk Wilde? You should. Impressive.
Clapton,Beck,Floyd,Deep Purple, and probably Black Sabbath.
If it wasn't for at least one or all of them R.R. would probably have stayed with classical music.
He heard something that started him off.

And Ozzy revitalizes his career every few years. He's the best at it.
First it was R.R.
Then Zakk Wilde.
Then Ozzfest. Black Sabbath reunion.
Now it's free Ozzfest.

Diamond Tackle 02-21-2007 08:16 PM

best guitarist I ever had the pleasure to see in person, up and close. at the Ritz, NYC New years eve 1989, just before his untimely death
that is one night of my life Id like to relive over and over.
Stevie Ray Vaughn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7PAHX7iLpI
Voodoo Child

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFuZ6SligU
crossfire


Neil young and Crazy Horse
Cortez the killer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-wHzlfLKbM
Like a Hurricane
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-nPpTw5yWE

sok 02-21-2007 08:32 PM

I only started to really appreciate S.R.V. right around 89-90.
Right before...
Remember exactly where I was when I heard the news.

ThomCat 02-22-2007 08:28 AM

The godfather:
Jimi Hendrix
Rt Hand - Stevie Ray------------Lft Hand - Buddy Guy
The Brit Holy Trinity
Beck - Clapton - Page
Test of Time Stalwarts:
Santana - M. Knopfler - Angus Young - Joe Perry
Back on Topic:
Duke Robillard
Harrison was a great musician but hardly a great guitarist and as for Kieth Richard, any time he can stay upright for a whole preformance, it's a good day.

tautog 02-22-2007 09:09 AM

It's hard to imagine that Eric Johnson isn't listed on any top lists. He is about as clean and fast as anyone I've ever seen. Great live performance if you ever get the chance.

RIROCKHOUND 02-22-2007 09:10 AM

Holy Sh-t
A post all the way from AZ. post #3

Bernzy 02-22-2007 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tautog01 (Post 466323)
It's hard to imagine that Eric Johnson isn't listed on any top lists. He is about as clean and fast as anyone I've ever seen. Great live performance if you ever get the chance.

He's on my list. Right near the top.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0Sm-14F7cI

Bernzy

RIROCKHOUND 02-22-2007 09:50 AM

Got to see him w/ tautog01 at the call when I was 18..
great blues show! the late Son Seals.. not the best guitarist by far but he definetly lived the blues!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQOZa9MrnO8

striprman 02-22-2007 10:09 AM

Martin Barre

Terence 02-22-2007 10:16 AM

Clarence White and Prince.

ProfessorM 02-22-2007 10:25 AM

Bernzy :wave: I love Albert Lee. Awesome picker for sure. Not bad for a British country player. he played back up on a few Claptons tours. I still like Danny Gatton better but once you are at that level how do you choose:huh: , I just enjoy. Thanks for the tune it got me going today:boots: P.

Bernzy 02-22-2007 10:33 AM

Prof. This will really get you going......FZ and friends
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOhlAmNcSKA

Bernzy

ProfessorM 02-22-2007 10:49 AM

That was great. Thanks. How do you choose
http://www.zappa.com/fz/content/disc...um-display.php

BTW I will call you on Sat.sometime to broach that subject. I got to go to movies with daughter today, school vacation, and I got a date with a plug ho tomorrow. P.

ThomCat 02-22-2007 11:35 AM

ProfM, I don't know if you were refering to ALVIN Lee of Ten Years After, but he could pick a lick as well. When he was banging out "I'm Goin' Home" at Woodstock (the REAL one!!), I thought his head was going to explode! Mine too.......TC:smokin:

ProfessorM 02-22-2007 04:21 PM

No different guy, but he is good also but different style. Listen to the youtube song Bernzy posted you can get a real good idea how good Albert is. Phenomenal picker with his own style. A Barry Manilow look a like, poor guy.

Canalman 02-22-2007 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nebe (Post 440486)
gilmor was underrated???

trey anastasio from Phish gets my vote-

Yep he's the man~!

mosholu 02-27-2007 10:38 PM

I would add to the guys to check out Richard Thompson, Danny Gatton and Bob Brozman. Brozman has got to be the top slide player out there at the moment. Gatton was incredible, sort of like a cross between James Burton and Roy Buchanan, left us far too early. Richard Thompson has been around forever but he is not generally well known but can play up a storm on both electric and acousitc.
All of these guys have clips on you tube.

Flaptail 02-27-2007 11:14 PM

Mick Ronson:kewl:

ThomCat 02-28-2007 06:29 AM

Ronson was not only a great guitar player but he could hold his own on stage in the presence of the bigger than life (gross understatement!) David Bowie. Some rather bizarre theatrics but never at the expense of the music. :grins:

afterhours 02-28-2007 06:52 AM

just listened to "highway call" again- #^&#^&#^&#^&ey betts is special.

striprman 02-28-2007 06:28 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8caf2m2Jd-4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTFzzUJBUCY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xWjmznpCA0

goosefish 03-01-2007 07:49 AM

the guy in Max Creek, who really is pretty good.

RIROCKHOUND 03-01-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterhours (Post 468667)
just listened to "highway call" again- #^&#^&#^&#^&ey betts is special.

Yeah but listening to CD's of the early Allmans... love hearing Duane...

Saw Leslie West (Mountain) w/Corky Lang on drums in Newport last summer, that was a great small club show and he can still wail...

You know who gets no love is Pete "Hope I die before I get old" Townshend saw the Who at Great Woods 5 or 6 years ago and he was still effortless...

afterhours 03-01-2007 08:45 AM

i love duane! but i think betts is underrated..

RIROCKHOUND 03-01-2007 08:51 AM

Good point.
He played Npt Blues Cafe last summer.
Heard it was kick-ass 300people...
They had some decent acts last summer; West, Betts, Derringer...

LeCounts1099 03-01-2007 10:28 AM

James Honeyman- Scott: #1 Underrated!
 
OK, I love this thread! Yes, compelling between- working reading, & great info. & leads on new stuff to hear!

But: at times it has been about the "best" guitarists... & the best "unknown" or little- known names that most have never heard of, or their music... but back to the original question Bryan was asking (100's of pages ago!) :p ... who are the "most underrated?" To me that means, who has achieved the most as a Guitarist in music history (to me, that means "Rock"-- sorry!). WHO has been among the very best, & also has been in bands that sold millions of records-- yet few (even avid) rock fans know their names, though all have heard their playing/ songs?...

My most underrated: 1) James Honeyman- Scott, Pretenders
2) Neil Schon, Santana/ Journey
3) Randy Rhoads
4) Tom Scholz
5) Joe Perry

#'s 2- 4 I've discussed earlier here, as have others.

Joe Perry must be on this list, because most who know his name do so only linked to lame "new 'smith" songs like "Love in an Elevator," etc. All the fans of this "new" Aerosmith would hate the "old" Aerosmith-- because the songs back then were killer audio/ stereophonic assaults!... and Joes' guitar was always blistering! His work on "Toys..." and "Rocks" alone would make him an all- time "heavy" Rock guitarist... but the earlier stuff was even better, esp. the 1st album (more raw & bluesy). IMHO Joe was way better in his prime then were Eddie VH or Slash or James Hetfield, talented as they were/ are! (I'm quite sure Slash would admit he patterned everything-- his look and guitar-style-- after Joe P.! Maybe you'd have to get him drunk first!)

And Tom Scholz?-- WHO knows that name? Yet who doesn't own and/ or love the first Boston album?? Yes, the drums, bass & songs/ lyrics & vocals were all phenomenal too... but Toms' guitar stole the show on every song! Totally unique sound too, another sign of guitar greatness: you KNOW when you're hearing Duane, Gilmour, Beck, Hendrix-- or Tom S.! No mistaking any for any other player! Most of what Eddie V. did in his (so- short) "prime" was mimicking what guys like Trower, Beck & Jimi did before him... in front of the least- talented backing band imaginable (worst rock bassist ever: Michael Anthony!)... with terribly- written songs! ("Jump" stupidest song in "hard/ heavy- Rock" history!) :doh:

OK, to our subject: which "unknown" guitarist luckily (or by good choosing) had an AWESOME band behind him... and with one of Rock history's most charismatic front- men (ahem, front- women!). If all you've ever heard of the Pretenders was "Brass in Pocket" or "Back on the Chain Gang" then you'll have to take my word for this ('till your own research!): the Pretenders were one of the greatest bands in Rock history (not "top- 10" but def. "top- 20")-- in TWO albums only!-- and much of this was due to their amazing guitar- player, James Honeyman- Scott! :btu:

Again, like poor Randy R., it was two great masterpieces (albums) and gone from this World for poor James (in this case it WAS drinking/ drugs)... so any curious to prove me wrong have little material to hear & judge! "Pretenders (One)" and "P. Two" were the albums... songs to make you instant believers are: "Mystery Achievement"; "The Wait"; "Private Life"; "The Adultress"; "Space Invader"... Hard/ rockin' cuts mix with mellow/ acoustic/ melodic ballads sung with such depth & soul by Chrissy... and James plays accordingly with equal beauty. Sometimes hard & driving & "metal"- ish... sometimes wispy or acoustic or background. The drummers' top- notch, the bassist is amazing (& also died young)... and Chrissy's voice & style back then made her a lasting Rock icon (though she tarnished this by doing crappy pop stuff after James & Pete died). :poke:

Simply listen... or listen again if it's been a while! Yes, there are better guitar- players you'll say... but how great is this guy to be a no- name??... now to be nearly/ completely forgotten? :huh: :grins:

ProfessorM 03-01-2007 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeCounts1099 (Post 469142)
OK, I love this thread! info. & leads on new stuff to hear! :grins:

Yup. Everyone has a personal preference but they are all great.

ProfessorM 03-09-2007 01:07 PM

Couple more I thought of lately as I got a fantastic album and they were both on it. Mike Stern and Hiram Bullock. You might remember Hiram on David Sanborns great album Voyer, along with Steve Gadd, RR. and the original Letterman guitarist. Both are very underrated.

Canalman 03-09-2007 01:14 PM

You want to hear some sick $#!+ pick up the Vital Techtones album. Scott Hendersen Victor Wooten and a great drummer whose name escapes me. Scott Hendersen is from a band called Tribal Tech, his playing is reminiscent of Steve Morse maybe a little Satriani in there too. Vic is the bass player and if you don;t know of him, you HAVE to hear him. He plays bass for Bela Fleck and the Flecktones (also a great band). Victor has won Bass player of the year the last 3 or 4 years running. Check it out.

-Dave

ThomCat 03-09-2007 01:29 PM

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You know who gets no love is Pete "Hope I die before I get old" Townshend saw the Who at Great Woods 5 or 6 years ago and he was still effortless...

Townsend was the lord and master of the power chord which worked so well with Who music but he was never a pickin' and pl#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&' master like SlowHand, Beck, Stevie Ray, Buddy Guy, Jimi and some of the other great ax men.:btu:


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